--part1_ae.52e30978.2d88eb8b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_ae.52e30978.2d88eb8b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <OHFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xk05.mx.aol.com (rly-xk05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-xk02.mail.aol.com (v98.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXK24-59740578b8530e; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:20:08 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [66.43.18.41]) by rly-xk05.mx.aol.com (v98.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXK51-59740578b8530e; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:19:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id i2GNJMu3017409; Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:19:22 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 16:19:22 -0700 X-Original-Sender: vonville@mstar2.net Tue Mar 16 16:19:20 2004 Message-ID: <017201c40bad$816bf440$fc464bab@n8g3s0> From: "vonville" <vonville@mstar2.net> Old-To: <BUTTS-L@rootsweb.com>, <GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com>, <GUENTHER-L@rootsweb.com>, <GUNTER-L@rootsweb.com>, <GUNTHER-L@rootsweb.com>, <KYJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com>, <OH-BMD-L@rootsweb.com>, <OH-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHCOSHOC-L@rootsweb.com>, <OH-FOOTSTEPS-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHHOLMES-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHIO-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHIO-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHKNOX-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHPICKAW-L@rootsweb.com>, <OHROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, <OLD-GERMAN-L@rootsweb.com>, <PALANTINES-L@rootsweb.com>, <OH-Census-L@rootsweb.com> Old-Cc: <STARKEY-L@rootsweb.com>, "STARNER-L@rootsweb.com" <STARNER-L-request@rootsweb.com>, <SURNAMES-GERMAN-I-request@rootsweb.com>, <IRL-MAYO-L@rootsweb.com>, <STANTON-L@rootsweb.com>, <STANTON-UK-L@rootsweb.com>, <vonville@mstar2.net> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 18:21:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 Subject: [OHFranklin] Why "LDS"record confusion? Some reasons for some "LDS"/"Familysearch" records being confusing: May be copied and forwarded. Resent-Message-ID: <xKHnE.A.SPE.6t4VAB@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/14174 X-Loop: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: OHFRANKL-L-request@rootsweb.com X-AOL-IP: 66.43.18.41 To any who are reading this email: Apparently, there is a need for this to be posted onto other sites other than the specific Rootsweb site to which it was originally posted. The following has been slightly changed in order to provide more explanation to those not of the original group. Permission is granted by me to send this on to any other family member or researcher or group which may need this explanation to help with their research and understanding, you do not need to contact me in order to do this. Just send it on; and, keep researching. [If anyone translates this into German, French, Spanish, Gaelic or Russian may I have a copy, please?] (NOTE: If the words are too spread out or large on a screen: then try clicking on this message and pressing (together) (Ctrl A) then (Ctrl C) [or Copy and Paste]; open an "New" Mail Message, put the cursor/arrow in the blank white area (where a message goes), click (Ctrl V) (together) [or whatever your program uses]; and, it should show up in the new mail message; if! not, then retry again pressing the keys more firmly. This original message is in the typeface called Arial and at 8 point and Bold (anything in red is done in ArialBLACK but, would be fine for copying in the Arial 8 Bold.) Thank you, M.M. Von Ville 16/MAR/04 ~ ...Some reasons for some "LDS"/"Familysearch" records being confusing... I am a not speaking as a Church official representative, just as a member; and, thru my following opinion, can explain some things which may seem confusing to, and have been questioned by, genealogical researchers here or elsewhere. Some of the LDS information submitted by members was done about 30 years ago when the Church asked members to try to submit their first 4 generations. Many submitted more if they had it. Some of the members were extremely enthusiastic and submitted what they had been told by their families. Most of our members had NO idea there would be anything like the Internet or Personal Computers or even sites such as this nor that many many others who are not members would ever even see what was submitted!!! We were doing what then seemed confusing to many of us; and, of course, mistakes were made out of enthusiasm and simply being new at it and untrained. The Church (The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints previously nicknamed "LDS" or "Mormons" ) did and still does have classes (anyone many attend.) Many years ago some were unable to attend classes and did the best they could with what they had. As members found more how to do this properly some of those same names were resubmitted with the information from whatever new sources were found resulting in spelling, date and many other differences than those first submissions. Again, please remember, we were new at this and not experts by any means! Current researchers should adhere to the best accepted genealogical procedure which is to go to the ORIGINAL sources and recheck the data. There are many positive things which can be said about the members' submissions: eg. if there are 3 different sources from different submissions at least a researcher has an idea of 3 different sources to check! Much better than having NO idea where to search or if there were other children or what the wife's name or mother's name or father's name and dates and places were! Personally, this past year I have received hundreds of years of validated information from the original source from the Internet; and, a non member whom I know, found 400 years of original sources and documented families in one search at the LDS www.familysearch.org site. There are many good, well identified and correct families and research there :) Researchers now have it so so much easier and can obtain information in an extremely short time instead of our months or years of waiting to find something which current researchers think nothing about now. I hope some of them appreciate what the members could do at the time because it was much of the base of the massive amount of information now available; and, many many thousands, if not millions, of them have been greatly helped in this great God-given Work. (Malachi, last Book in the Old Testament, Chapter 4, last Chapter in the Old Testament, and verse 6, last verse in the Old Testament is some Scriptural reason for us doing this; and, yes, we do believe that Elijah the prophet has already come; and, that this Work is of God who is the Heavenly Father of all humans who were, are and will be.) God bless all of you wonderful researchers! M.M. Von Ville, an LDS convert of many years who is grateful computers are making this Work so very much easier! P.S. An email site has been set up and will be checked occasionally. This is for convenience sake in the case that anyone may need some other appropriate further assistance regarding this message or questions or wishes to make other appropriate comments. The email is: myopinionNOTaChurchSite@hotmail.com and it IS MY opinion and IS NOT part of an LDS Church site! I am simply a member of the Church who saw a need of an explanation and have done my own personal genealogy for years in the "before computer methods"; and, in the last few years, thru "learning computer and the Internet." May God lead your "Hunt" in finding your family, ask God for help and listen to the answers! God may be the only one who knows where they really are! Miracles happen every day, you can have one or more, too, just ask sincerely and listen to God's still small voice. God does speak to his children and you ARE one of them, no matter what your conditions or situations may be!!! ~ ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== This list is designed to provide a discussion forum for anyone who has an interest in Franklin County Ohio. To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHFRANKL for the list name. --part1_ae.52e30978.2d88eb8b_boundary--