thanks for those that responded with information. here's what it is looking like and i would still very much like to identify children from the first two marriages. this information on children's birth years is from 1850 and 1860 census, showing differences between the 2 census. jonathan kindley marriage 1 to hannah pickett (5-28-1831 wayne co) (6-23-1831 to hannah piggott) (via ind.st.lib.gen.database, mgs thru 1850) known children: elizabeth born 1832 Indiana marriage 2 to linda t. brown (4-30-1837 via wayne co, ind.gov't mg.license records) no known children marriage 3 to margaret briley (9-9-1841 montgomery co, ohio from genealogy.com) known children: sarah 1842-43 OH james w. 1845 OH john c 1846-49 OH guley e. 1848-51 OH laura c. 1853 OH mortitia m. 1856 OH seth c. 1859 the 1860 spelling for guley was gulelima. anything anyone can ad would be most welcome with thanks in advance. karen in CA