Hi everybody! I'm back! It was a good trip! We didn't stay at Holtwood after all (too urban), but went up to Kelly Lake (Holt Park). Let me recommend it highly! But that added another 1/2 hour to my driving time. The manager's mother is a researcher too, TREVORs, and gave me an outdated phone directory. No TOUCHETTEs, 1 ASHLEY, all the way up into Menominee Co., MI. Thanks to Kathy Barlament & Barb Buboltz for their great help & assistance! Christy Kallies broke her toe & wasn't able to join us. How're you feeling, Christy? We need a map of Oconto Co. which shows where the cemeteries are. Otherwise, you'll go past them on the highway at 55-65mph, with no idea how to get to them! Thank goodness for Kathy! Else I'd never have found some of them! I still don't know where Ann PORTER & Joe TOUCHETTE got married or where Gilbert ASSELIN/ASLIEN/ASHLEY died, but I found a lot of 'collateral' info. Tons of PATENAUDEs (& var.) all over Oconto & Brown Co. And I saw the latest query on the Oconto board for LaFORTUNE -- they're all over the place too! There's even a LaFortune Realty currently in operation. I need at least another week in Green Bay. (And a trip to Marinette) I only got 1hr 10min in the Brown Co. Courthouse records room. That's all they'll allow you if there are other researchers waiting. That *just about* got me thru the indexes for all my surnames. You can go back out & sit and wait for another turn, but by then it was about time to meet Barb for lunch. After that, I spent some time at the Brown Co. library. (Beautiful library!) FYI, the microfilm *is not* in the Local History & Genealogy room, but down in the magazine section. If I'd known that to start with, I would have been down there waiting for the LH&G room to open. As it was, I had to leave earlier than I would have liked to get to Allouez Cemetery for pix of my ancestors' headstones. The ARC in GB wouldn't let me stay over. I promised I wouldn't hurt anything, but.... ;-} Here's another hard part -- the ARC and LH&G room are open the same hours during most of the week! Waupaca Co. is *gorgeous*! And the County Courthouse has plenty of space for those large indexes and books. Everybody at all the courthouses were courteous and helpful. Anybody planning a trip, don't feel at all reluctant to go and ask to see the old records. In Oconto, they hand them to you, point you at a table with microfilm readers, and leave you alone. In Waupaca, they let you into the room, show you where everything is, and leave you alone. In Brown Co., the room is very small, and the clerks are trying to work around you. They're very friendly, but you get the impression you're in their way. Then there's that hour time limit... I'll post my "new" requests for information in another message, since this one is getting kind of long. Marsha Wilcox mwilcox@lnd.com Wilcox Web Design -- http://www.usroots.com/~wwd/wwd.html USGenWeb County Coordinator for: Lake Co., IL -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~illake/ Listowner for ILLAKE-L, tracing your roots in Lake Co., IL Oconto Co., WI -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/ Shawano Co., WI -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~wishawan/ Home Page -- http://mall.lnd.com/wilcox/ My Genealogy Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mawilcox/index.htm