The FHL catalog is working! Now you can get your film #s from the comfort of your home! Yippppeeee!!!! http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp Marsha

Actually, enough people complained to e-Bay & the seller that he pulled them. Marsha Gloria Olson wrote: > > Someone must have received a message. All of the gravestones for > auction now show invalid number. > > Did any one do the obvious and notify authorities? > > Gloria

Not sure why this happened but I did send a letter to E-bay officials explaining the nature of selling possible stolen property. They responded by saying that they had recieved several letters on the subject and that the "authorities" and CNN were also in contact. Sounds like a group effort to me. Someone must have received a message. All of the gravestones for auction now show invalid number. Did any one do the obvious and notify authorities? Gloria

Someone must have received a message. All of the gravestones for auction now show invalid number. Did any one do the obvious and notify authorities? Gloria

Subject: [Fwd: Fw: STOLEN GRAVE MARKERS being Auctioned] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <25-4eD.A.FOH.t1cL3@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: HANNA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: HANNA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <HANNA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/607 X-Loop: HANNA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: HANNA-L-request@rootsweb.com Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > FORWARDED MESSAGE > Subject: [OHROOTS-L] STOLEN GRAVE MARKERS being Auctioned on E-Bay > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: JAndWal@aol.com > > This was forwarded to me from another list - and it is true - Grave markers > are actually being sold on eBay auctions - I have responded to eBay, as > well > as the sellers of these items - I am outraged! > > Forward this to every genealogist and group on the net. Protest to E-Bay. > > Report all > participants to AOL, Earthlink, etc. > > >> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:59:23 -0400 > >> From: awetzel@juno.com > >> To: CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com > >> Message-ID: <19990502.075925.-1041609.2.awetzel@juno.com> > >> Subject: Re: These Civil War Markers and .....are being sold. > >> Content-Type: text/plain > >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >> > >> Thank you again, Carlene. Below is the information on the grave markers > >> you have alerted us about. Have sent an e-mail to eBay, and to each > >> seller, reminding them that these items were once in place on someone's > >> grave, and that each state has laws forbidding vandalism to graves. I > >> encourage all on this list to respond to eBay and/or to the sellers as > >> you feel led. > >> Annette Elam Wezel > >> > >> #95765135 is a GAR grave marker, marked "County Commissioners, West > >> Chester, PA." The seller refers to its having been 'used.' The name of > >> the seller is "1sterling," and the item is located in New Jersey. The > >> seller's e-mail address is: sterlingcenter@world.att.net > >> #95765620 is also a GAR grave marker, in a different style, marked with > >> the number "15" in the design of the front, with the back marked only > >> "AMERICA," which may refer to the foundry. Again, the seller refers to > >> 'signs of use.' Same location, same seller, same address. > >> > >> #96301772 is a Korean War veterans grave marker. The seller is located > in > >> West Tennessee. The seller's e-mail address is: hbuild36@aol.com > >> > >> #98328212 is a "World War Veterans Marker." Possibly World War I, but I > >> am not sure of that. Located in Michigan. Sellers address is > >> capcornr@klondyke.net > >> > >> #96742252 is World War II Veterans grave marker. Advertised as an "eagle > >> grave marker presented by the County Commissioners." Back marked > >> "Philadelphia, PA," but that may again refer to a foundry. Located in > >> Penndel, PA. Sellers address is tmaw@netcarrier.com > >> > >> On Sun, 2 May 1999 00:42:56 -0500 "Carlene M. Wojahn" > >> <cwojahn@internetwis.com> writes: > >> >Since it was pointed out to me about a month ago that grave markers > >> >are sold on the ebay auction site., I sporadically check it out. > >> >These auctions are now in process, and this greatly concerns me, for > >> >doesn't this encourage theft of these markers ? Where did the person > >> >selling these markers get them from ? > >> >Carlene M. Wojahn > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765135 > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765620 > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96301772 > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=98328212 > >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96742252 > > Jeff Wallick >

Copied this from another list. Thought someone might be interested. Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:59:23 -0400 From: awetzel@juno.com To: CIVIL-WAR@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <19990502.075925.-1041609.2.awetzel@juno.com> Subject: Re: These Civil War Markers and .....are being sold. Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you again, Carlene. Below is the information on the grave markers you have alerted us about. Have sent an e-mail to eBay, and to each seller, reminding them that these items were once in place on someone's grave, and that each state has laws forbidding vandalism to graves. I encourage all on this list to respond to eBay and/or to the sellers as you feel led. Annette Elam Wezel #95765135 is a GAR grave marker, marked "County Commissioners, West Chester, PA." The seller refers to its having been 'used.' The name of the seller is "1sterling," and the item is located in New Jersey. The seller's e-mail address is: sterlingcenter@world.att.net #95765620 is also a GAR grave marker, in a different style, marked with the number "15" in the design of the front, with the back marked only "AMERICA," which may refer to the foundry. Again, the seller refers to 'signs of use.' Same location, same seller, same address. #96301772 is a Korean War veterans grave marker. The seller is located in West Tennessee. The seller's e-mail address is: hbuild36@aol.com #98328212 is a "World War Veterans Marker." Possibly World War I, but I am not sure of that. Located in Michigan. Sellers address is capcornr@klondyke.net #96742252 is World War II Veterans grave marker. Advertised as an "eagle grave marker presented by the County Commissioners." Back marked "Philadelphia, PA," but that may again refer to a foundry. Located in Penndel, PA. Sellers address is tmaw@netcarrier.com On Sun, 2 May 1999 00:42:56 -0500 "Carlene M. Wojahn" <cwojahn@internetwis.com> writes: >Since it was pointed out to me about a month ago that grave markers >are sold on the ebay auction site., I sporadically check it out. >These auctions are now in process, and this greatly concerns me, for >doesn't this encourage theft of these markers ? Where did the person >selling these markers get them from ? >Carlene M. Wojahn >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765135 >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=95765620 >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96301772 >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=98328212 >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96742252

New April postings on the Oconto County Site include: Spanish-American War Company "M" Roster-Oconto County 1898 -Military ServicePage: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/military.htm Oconto County River Sackers of the Twelfth Regiment: Volunteer Service Roster - Civil War Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/civilwar.htm Real Estate Page - Understanding what a property description means and how to find it on a map; http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/realestatedescription.htm Quick Pick - The fast way to the site pages from the Home page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/index.htm More Cemetery Listings - Now has 71 Oconto County Cemeteries and their locations - and 52 addresses to send for records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/cemetery.htm City of Oconto Surnames List of 1917-1918, has 800 surnames: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/1917surnames.htm Various other pages have been added to this month as well. Hope this helps, Rita

I am in need of the street address and zip code for the Peace Lutheran Church in Split Rock. I would like to make a Cemetery inquiry and would be very thankful for the address. Thank you very much. John Rodgers

Well, I haven't been able to make it there yet, but next Thursday I have off, and barring weather or illness, will be able to do research. If you already e-mailed me, I still have your message and will do it then. If you didn't have a chance to e-mail me, do it now! There are complete vital records for Shawano County there. As well as an indexed obit list. Christy Kallies -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 1.1 GO d- s+:+ a-C++ U--- P L W++ N+ K- w+ M- PS+ PE Y+ PGP- t 5 X++ R+ tv+ b+++ DI D- G e+ h---- r+++ x++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

All, Does anyone have a list of the Oconto Township offices (addresses and phone #'s). I am trying to find where township cemetery records, and records of private (family or church) cemeteries that have been "turned over" to the township, are kept to post on the Oconto County GenWeb Site. My phone bill is astronomical so if anyone lives locally and can spare the time to call for me, the Cemeteries I am missing the records addresses for are at the net address below. Please write anything you come up with directly back to me so as not to clutter the List. Thank You! Rita Address for Cemetery Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/cemetery.htm

Tory My gg-grandfather Gunlek Aasoldson was in the area of Iola/Scandinavia from 1868-1872, before moving to Barron Co., Wis. By chance is he mentioned in this book? Thanks Vic Gulickson Tory wrote: > > I obtained a book that was compiled about the history of Ogdensburg/St. > Lawrence in Waupaca County. It talks about quite a few families in the area > and lists many names of the veterans that were from Ogdensburg/St. Lawrence/ > Iola/ Scandanavia/Big Falls. > > Some of the families that are mentioned are Ogden, Murray, Borowski, Dain, > Johnson, Larson, Rasmussen, and Boutwell. > > It also has a few platt maps. The earlies being in 1874 and going up to 1989. > > If anyone would like me to look for a specific family or person let me know > and I will see what I can do. > > Tory Suehs

Hi! Have you tried looking up their entry in the Germans to America Volumes? That would give you the date of departure from whatever port, date of arrival in whatever port, who traveled together, where they were from, what their destination was. Once you receive that you can order a copy of the passenger list from the National Archives. http://www.nara.gov/ will give you more information than I could in this message to you. Also try searching out any naturalization papers for him. That will give a bit of information about him also. The National Archives would have information on this topic also. *IF* he has a SS#, you may try getting a copy of his SS-5, (application for a SS#). Being that he would have had to filled it out, it would have the most correct information on there for him such as place of birth, date of birth, parents, etc... It will also have his signature on it. Since SS#'s were not required until some time later, this is a shot in the dark, but worth it. Hope this information helps you. -- Cindy Johnson :0) NEW SITE! American Local History Network - Wisconsin A compilation of Historical & Genealogical Information http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnwius/WI_index.html My Wisconsin Family History Page http://www.ameritech.net/users/cindyjohnson1/Family_history.htm

Dear Listers I am looking for place of origin for Carl Foth and Friedrich Hall. Carl Foth - Born Feb 1849, Mecklenbberg Germany (1880 Census) arrived in U.S. in 1871 according to the 1900 census. Died 3 Mar 1924, age of 76 years 14 days (19 Feb 1848). Buried Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church White Clay Lake along with Johanna, Friedrich and Sophie. Married Johanna Hall daughter of Frederick "Fritz" Hall(b. Mar 1815) and Sophie Toll Hall (b. Apr 1819) around 1873. Children: (All born around White Clay Lake, Town of Washington, Shawano County) Carl b. Sep 1877 John b. Feb 1885 Mary b. Apr 1887 Anna b. Sep 1889 Clara b. Dec 1891 Alma b. Oct 1893 There is a Carl Foth who filed Declaration of Intention, but he is the wrong date arrived in U.S., wrong children's names, wrong Carl. Thanks for your help. ;-)

My grandfather, Joseph Czekaj died in Lena, WI in 1922 and according to his death certificate was buried in Spruce WI, August 19, 1922, in the cemetery at Sacred Heart of Jesus Church. The spelling of his surname on the death certificate at that time was CHECKI. So I imagine the name on his tombstone is Checki. My question is: is the above named church in Spruce still there, and if it is, can I possibly get a record of his burial? The undertaker's name that handled the services in Lena was Fred Klimish. Joseph's grandson, Stanley, who died in the Korean war in 1950 is also buried there. Thanks a lot for any help, Roy Czekay, URL: http://members.aol.com/rczekay

Sorry that I forgot to put the address of the new Oconto County Cemetery page on the posting yesterday. If you have any information to fill in the "blanks" please send it to : Zorblitz@prodigy.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/cemetery.htm Thank you, Rita

Hello, Now that the Towns and Churches have a good start on the Oconto County GenWeb Site, thanks to the very kind and generous folks who have and are still sending in information, I am asking for help with updating the Cemetery Page. I have many names and the city or townships that they are in and general location of the actual cemeteries, but need the ADDRESSES for making contact about records. All Catholic Cemeteries (old and new) are now covered by the Diocese of Green Bay and that will be on the page, but the rest are hard to track down. Some are religious, and some secular, and they are not necessarily in the yellow pages. Please send in any information you have (you will receive credit) on contacting the cemetery agencies to Rita: Zorblitz@prodigy.net To see the other pages go to: Churches http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/churches.htm Towns http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/towns.htm Thank you. Your make the site what it is!

Hello, There are now an average of 30+ visitors a day because of all that has been sent in recently. New Postings to the Oconto County Site include: * Surnames in the City of Oconto in 1917.(over 800surnames) * Updated "Towns" page -new information and "ghost-towns" to help people locate places that no longer officially exist, but are on old documents and obits for those areas. Need more Info please. * Ahnentafel and Generation Charts information now are on the "Family History & Bios" page. - Please consider sending yours in for posting. You receive full credit and an e-mail link. * "Early Upper Great Lakes Families" page. Many, Many early surnames, writings, information and document identifications added. * 1880 Stiles Census added to Town of Oconto. *Continued updating on the "Religious Organizations" contact page. If you know of any other churches that once existed but are no longer there, please send in the names and former locations (and anything else you have). I would like to sincerely thank all those who have offered their time, expertise and research, and all those who visit the site. Early this year I promised that there would be a big effort to increase the usefulness and enjoyment to site visitors and with your help, it is certainly happening. Come see! You are absolutely wonderful people to work with. I am so proud to share our heritage. Happy Spring!!! Rita - Oconto County Site Host http://www.rootsweb.com/~wioconto/index.htm

I am honored to announce the VERY FIRST issue of the Wisconsonian; an e-zine for the Wisconsin Local History Network, is now online and ready to view!!! The Wisconsonian will be a monthly e-zine with several articles about historical events in Wisconsin. It will also have a calendar of events throughout the state to keep you apprised of all the goings ons about the state. There will be a research resources and techniques section to use as a guide to finding your ancestors. Each month will bring you a new issue with fresh news articles to read. Please stop by and take a look at our newest adventure in recording history at: http://www.usgennet.org/~alhnwius/WI_index.html - Scroll down the page and you will see the button that will take you to the e-zine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS!! Interested in joining the team here at ALHN WI, and becoming a county contact? Send an email to this address for more details ~ cindyjohnson1@ameritech.net Please put "ALHN WI VOLUNTEER" in the subject line. You will be contacted by myself or Bob Schuster within 48 hours. Include your full name and how we are to contact you in return. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you! Cindy Johnson :0)

>The story in my family is that all the immigrant branches of the family >who settled in Oconto belonged to the First American Lutheran Church. >However, there was a rift in the Church membership when the pastor >forbade them to belong to the Oddfellows. I have no idea what year this >was, or why the Oddfellows were "anathema". Many left the First >American, and my grandfather was one who helped build the German >Lutheran Church,( which no longer exists,) and his family went there >until it closed. (Why did it close?) As a member of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, I can tell you that ANY Lodge membership is highly frowned upon... I believe it is due to the fact that to belong to a Lodge you have to pledge your allegiance to that lodge and that conflicts with the First Commandment... Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.... Randy

This information is from "The County Connection" a newsletter for Shawano Co. Employees - March 1999. Their source for this information came from the Newsletter of the Wisconsin Heritage Tourism Program "Visitors and residents of of Shawano and Menominee Counties have the opportunity to learn about Wisconsin history through new interpretive signs. Each of the 13 signs highlights a local event or site important in the development of the area. The 24" x 36" aluminum signs were purchased through grants from the Wisconsin Sesquicentennial Commission and the Shawano Community Foundation. The signs feature interpretive text, a reproduction of a historic photograph or drawing of the site, and logo of the From The Piners to the Present Heritage Area. "The 13 signs will be installed during the spring and summer of 1999.l The sign sites are: 1. Bethany Indian Mission School, Wittenberg - a mission school founded in 1885 2. Caroline Gristmill and Dam, Caroline - rebuilt in 1878 to serve teh needs of the developing agriculture society. 3. Eland Junction Railroad Depot, Eland - rebuilt in 1913 following a fire, this depot planed an important role in the opening of the northwoods for lumbering and commerce. 4. Homme Home for the Aging, Wittenberg - founded by Rev. E. J. Homme in 1881 to serve the needs of homeless children and the elderly from across Wisconsin. 5. Keshena Falls, Keshena - an important gathering site for the Menominee people. 6. Lyndhurst Train Wreck - located along the Mountain Bay State Recreation Trail the site marks a 1912 derailment. 7. Lutheran Indian Mission, near Gresham - this building served as the first mission to the Stockbridge-Munsee Band. 8. Menominee Tribal Enterprise Lumber Mill - a standing mill that serves as the foundation of the tribe's sustained yield forestry program. 9. Shawano Sawmill, Shawano - located in the Shawano County Heritage Park to mark the site where the first sawmill was built in 1843. 10. Stockbridge-Munee Mohican Historical Village, near Bowler - site features an authentic reproduction of Stockbridge-Munsee Mohican village life. 11. Theodore Buettner Flour Mill, Caroline - restored mill built in 1878. 12. Tigerton Historic Park, Tigerton - collection of four original buildings dating back to the early days of European settlement. 13. Tigerton Historic Lumber Company, Tigerton - founded in 1887 by Herman Swanke, site includes a historic mill and headquarters building. ---------- Jennifer Hoffman Gresham, Wisconsin Volunteer of Random Genealogical Kindness at http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm ----------