These 3 messages were sent to me instead of the list, so I will post them. There must be a bunch of us Watts sitting at home on this cold January Sat. night.:) Janice W. Lester, Nashville - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Subj: Re: [WATTS-L] How many people are there on this list? Date: 01/22/2000 10:02:25 PM Central Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:DLytle4412">DLytle4412</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:Janicewatts">Janicewatts</A> I am looking for my great grandmothers family. I know nothng about them except her name was Josie Watts b 15 Mar 1860 d. 20 Oct 1954 and she married Reuben Lafayette Hicks b. 24 Feb 1854 d. 1937. They lived in the Fulton, KY - Union City, TN area. Josie and Reuben had the following children: Izar - 1885-1904 Henry - 1888-1955 Andrew - 1890 Bertha Allen - 1892-1966 (my grandmother) Syl - 1895 Birdie - 1897-1970 Albert - 1900-1975 Vance - 1902-1965 Rosie - 1909 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------- Subj: Re: [WATTS-L] How many people are there on this list? Date: 01/22/2000 10:24:33 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Hoodah Thunkit) To: [email protected] Bill Watts - San Diego, CA - looking for info on my 2g gfather Andrew Watts b. abt 1799 in Ireland - came to E. Boston, MA abt 1855. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- From: <A HREF="mailto:CatchesTheWind">CatchesTheWind</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:Janicewatts">Janicewatts</A> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------ Dear Janice, I am looking for John William Watts born 1-11-1871 in Alabama and died 1-24-1955 in Tennessee. He is buried at a Methodist Church in Rutherford Co. He married a Anna J. (possibly Reynolds) born 6-1868. They were listed as living in Williamson County, Tn. in the 1900 Census. Their Children were Jessie Washington Watts, Annie Watts and Lucy Watts. John had 2 brothers as far as I know, their names were George Watts and Joe Watts. Does any of these names sound familiar?

I to am search for a Watts line. Starting with me, my line are as follows: Mary Watts born 1-28-1964 in Tennessee David Daniel Watts born 9-1-1930 in Tennessee + Peggy Green(e) born 6-3-1940 in Athens, Al Jessie Washington Watts born 4-21-1895 in Tennessee + Lonnie Jane Brooks born 1-22-1898 in Tennessee John William Watts born 1-11-1971 in Alabama + Anna J (possibly Reynolds) born 6-1868 Unknown My John William Watts had 2 brothers as far as I know, their names are George Watts and Joe Watts. Thank You Mary

Sherry, do you have any of Eli's siblings? I am looking for info on my NC Watts. Moses, Sampson and Enoch Watts born in the same time period. There is a possibility these three are brothers. Enoch is on the 1850 Rowan Co census and Sampson and Moses are in Stanly Co, living on the Pee Dee River. All but Enoch dissapear after 1850,. I have 3 of Moses sons inlisting in the CSA in Cabarrus Co and all three turn up after the war in Giles Co TN.. My line Enoch Chesley Watts b. abt 1847 moves his family to Collin Co TX aft 1880. Barbara of Ca << Eli Watts born about 1795 in NC died about 1876 in Marshall Alabama married Rebecca Watts born about 1815 in NC Daniel Dodson Watts born December 11, 1820 NC died in Marshall Co. Al. 1900 Daniels'daughter Nancy R. Watts born May 25, 1846 St. Clair Co. died in Dekalb Co. January 17, 1921 Dekalb Co. she married Marida Sparks Sherry Washington State -----------------------

I must be the only person in the whole world who is looking for Levi and Orphie Payne Watts who have a son named Calvin Leander Watts. Calvin was born March 6, 1868 in Marietta, Georgia. He married Ida Jane Patterson who was born April 30, 1874 in Flowery Branch, Georgia. They were in Hall County Ga. during the 1900 Census, Wilcox County in 1910. We think Calvin had a brother named John. Is anyone looking for these WATTS? Thank you. Tanya Watts Lynn

Eli Watts born about 1795 in NC died about 1876 in Marshall Alabama married Rebecca Watts born about 1815 in NC Daniel Dodson Watts born December 11, 1820 NC died in Marshall Co. Al. 1900 Daniels'daughter Nancy R. Watts born May 25, 1846 St. Clair Co. died in Dekalb Co. January 17, 1921 Dekalb Co. she married Marida Sparks Sherry Washington State

Searching for James Watts and Mary Parkins (Perkins) family from Greenbrier County West Virginia. marilyn

Janice - What a find! My dad would have loved it too. Hope you get some sleep soon! Karen Watts High [email protected] wrote: > For some reason I have Watts' on my mind tonight. I have sat here for 4 hrs. > now, had a pizza, some popcorn and 2 Cokes. Now I can't sleep. Doing lots > of searches, reading old email and all of this activity on Watts-l is really > a lot of fun. And just a reminder, these messages are archived somewhere or > other on rootsweb. > But I wanted to share my Watts Whiskey tale. > I was out at the big Nashville Flea Market about 10 years ago and saw an old > whiskey bottle with the brand name of "Old Watts" on it. I just had to have > it and gave it to my dad. When he passed away mama gave it back to me. > I will describe the label. It is torn in several places and really is not in > great shape. But for $3 I love it. Daddy did too. > The bottle itself is just a plain old quart whiskey bottle, (clear) that had > a stopper at one time. Part of the seal is still on each side says "one > quart"on back and "proof 100" on the front. > Here is what the label says. > Bottled in Bond > OLD WATTS > (brand) > A picture of a man > Bourbon > WHISKEY > Jas. R. Ro?s & Co. Inc. > cont????lers > Indian????is, U.S.A. > > (back of the bottle, label is almost gone, here is what I can make out) > under the provis- > 3,1897,entitled > spirits in bond." > purpose of con- > and destroying the > shall reuse the stamp > such offense > > Just thought I'd share this little bit of info for any Indiana people. > Sincerely, > Janice Watts Lester

Patty Tyler St. Albans,WV Looking for any information on Eleanor Watts from early Cabell Co. VA. Also Allie, Eli, or Elijah Watts, same area. Ambrose Watts, Daniel Jackson Watts, also from the same area. This area that they were living in from 1820 - ? became Wayne County, WV. Would particulary like to know where Eleanor was at before turning up in this area. Any information appreciated. Thanks! Patty

My name is Kathy Watts Stroud.I am from Oklahoma,my Watts came from Va.,Tenn.,Ms.,Tx. Josiah b.1805 in Va. dont know wife's name Willis b.1825 in Tenn m. Mary King Andrew b. 1852 in Ms m. Mary Patty John Walter Watts b.1884 in Fannin,Tx. m. Mrytle Mae Hughes L D Watts b. 1916 in Tx. m. Delores Purtle b. 1927 in Mo. d.1969 these are my parents.

This list doesn't generate much email. How many of us are there? I know there is Jeremy, then there is me. I am: Janice Watts Lester Nashville, Tn. Looking for Watts' in Hickman or Graves Co., Ky. or Halifax, Va. Lets all post where we are from and who we are looking for. It won't take you but a minute.:) Janice Watts Lester Nashville, Tn.

Jeremy, thank you for posting this website. You are right , it truly is a fascinating site. I also found the Titanic book to be very interesting. Now for more Watts information. I found my gggg (? not sure what he was) grandfather, FINALLY, in Halifax Va. His name was Daniel Watts. He married Suz White on Dec. 17, 1812 in Halifax City, Halifax Co., Va. Her parents were Hampton and Elizabeth (Mullins) White, also of Halifax. The parents of Suz, were married Dec. 5, 1788 in Halifax Co. Va., too. I was so excited! Well, all that excitement has worn off now and I want more! Has anybody ever heard of Daniel Watts of Halifax Co. Va.? Most of their children wound up in Hickman or Graves Co., Ky., where I am from. Some of their grandchildren have the name "Daniel" or "Hampton", all born about 1850 or so in Graves or Hickman Co., Ky. Thanks to all my Watts Cousins out there for any help. I have LOTS of info. about Daniel and Suz's children, (1st child , born 1812 in Halifax). I guess all 5 of the children came to Hickman Co., Ky and we spread out like the plague from there:):) Thanks Janice Watts Lester Nashville, Tn.

Moyra, I've been trying to find out the origin of the town of Watts also. My uncle and great uncle claim that one of our uncles or grandfathers started the town as a real estate development and it went downhill from there. However, I have yet to meet a Watts who didn't claim that their ancestor started Watts. And I can't find anything on the internet about where the name came from. I'd sure like to know. By the way, in school was anyone called a "Watts Riot" after the riot? We've sure had that problem. Karen Watts High

Hi, I'm Karen Watts High of Truckee, CA (No, it's not a truck stop! - It's a Lake Tahoe ski resort area.) Am looking for WATT aka WATTS, Hugh Stuart who married Rhoda DORSET aka DORSETT in 1827 in NYC and branched out from there to Savannah, GA. Also, looking for their daughter, Katherine WATTS ELDRIDGE who married Franklin Eldridge in Kingston, NY. Alice Millicent WATTS b. Nov. 1897, daughter of Abram MacDonald WATTS, b. June 4 18867 in NYC and d. Nov. 1950 in Miami, FL.

Greetings Listers. FYI. The following is the text of Senator Lorna Milne's Private Senator's Bill to obtain release of Post 1901 Census Records. Second reading of the Bill is scheduled for 8 February 2000. My apology for the length of the posting. - ---------------------------------------------------- THE SENATE OF CANADA BILL S-15 An Act to amend the Statistics Act and the National Archives of Canada Act (census records) Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows: STATISTICS ACT 1. The Statistics Act is amended by adding the following after section 21: 21.1 (1) In this section, "record" has the same meaning as in section 2 of the National Archives of Canada Act. (2) Statistics Canada shall conserve all records from every (a) population census taken under section 19; (b) agriculture census taken under section 20; and (c) population and agriculture census taken prior to 1971. (3) With the consent of the National Archivist of Canada, obtained as required under section 5 of the National Archives of Canada Act, the Chief Statistician may destroy or dispose of census records, including individual census returns, but only after all of the information contained in the record has been transferred to an alternative recording medium. (4) Before the expiration of thirty calendar years following the year in which a census referred to in subsection (2) was taken, or at such earlier time as may be agreed to by the Chief Statistician and the National Archivist of Canada, the Chief Statistician shall transfer to the care and control of the National Archivist, under section 6 of the National Archives of Canada Act, all records referred to in paragraphs (2)(a) and (b). (5) Before the expiration of two years after the coming into force of this section, or at such earlier time as may be agreed to by the Chief Statistician and the National Archivist of Canada, the Chief Statistician shall transfer to the care and control of the National Archivist, under section 6 of the National Archives of Canada Act, all records referred to in paragraph (2)(c). NATIONAL ARCHIVES OF CANADA ACT 2. The National Archives of Canada Act is amended by adding the following after section 7: 7.1 (1) The information in census records transferred to the care and control of the Archivist under section 21.1 of the Statistics Act is deemed to be of permanent historic and archival importance. (2) Notwithstanding subsection 4(3), census records referred to in subsection (1) may not be transferred, destroyed or disposed of unless all of the information contained in the record has been transferred to an alternative recording medium. 7.2 (1) Neither the Archivist, nor any person acting on behalf of the Archivist, shall disclose personal information in census records, except (a) to the Chief Statistician of Canada and to persons authorized by order of the Chief Statistician under subsection 17(2) of the Statistics Act; or (b) as authorized by this section. (2) When 92 calendar years have elapsed following the year in which a census was taken, the Archivist shall provide public access to the records of the census for statistical purposes, for historical, genealogical or scientific research purposes, or for such other research purpose as the Archivist may establish. (3) The access referred to in subsection (2) shall be subject to such reasonable terms and conditions as the Archivist may establish that are consistent with the purposes of this Act. 7.3 (1) In this section, "personal information" has the same meaning as in section 3 of the Privacy Act. (2) An individual may object to the Archivist to the disclosure of any personal information provided by that individual in the course of a census. (3) An objection under subsection (2) must be in writing and is valid if (a) the objection is received by the Archivist during the 92nd calendar year following the year in which the census was taken; (b) the objection contains sufficient particulars to permit the Archivist to identify the personal information to which the objection relates; and (c) in the opinion of the Archivist, the disclosure of the personal information would constitute an unwarranted invasion of the privacy of the individual to whom the information relates. (4) Nothwithstanding subsection 7.2(2), the Archivist, upon receiving a valid written objection made under this section, shall not disclose the personal information referred to in the objection. (5) Every individual who filed a return in a census and in respect of whom a valid written objection has not been made under this section is deemed, when 92 calendar years have elapsed following the year in which the census was taken, to have given an irrevocable consent to public access to the information as provided for in this Act. - ----------------------------------------- This posting has been sent to the British Columbia, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Nova-Scotia-L, Ontario-L, Pictouroots, Roots-L, Watts-L, Wiltshire-EMI-L, and Canada-Census-Campaign-L mail lists. Permission is granted to forward without notification. Gordon A. WATTS [email protected] Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petiton now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

Greetings All. >From time to time posters make announcements of radio broadcasts of interest to those who seek release of Canada's Post 1901 Census records (or any other subject for that matter). In many cases these announcements contain only the call letters of the radio station, the program name, and may or may not include the local time of the program. While this information is important, for the most part it would have meaning only to those within the normal listening range of the radio station. With the wider range of possible audience afforded by the internet it would be of great benefit to include further information such as the time zone in which the program originates (East Coast, Central, Mountain, Pacific Time, etc.) If available on Real Audio, Crescendo, etc., the URL of the originating radio station would be a great help. Including this information would allow the program to be heard by the greatest possible audience. Just a few points to consider. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. WATTS [email protected] Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petiton now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

Does anyone have information on Abraham Watts who appears on 1830 Tuscaloosa County, Alabama Census? He is believed to have been born in South Carolina and married Lucelia Weaver. His son is believed to have been Daniel Henry Watts of Tuscaloosa County. John ******************** John K. Brown Researching: BROWN, ABNEY, BURT, WATTS

Thomas Henry WATTS (1805-1879), s/o Thos WATTS and Lavinia HUNTLEY married Rosa J HELTON in Union Co, NC on 28 Feb 1859. Rosa was born in 1833, so she was considerable younger than Thomas. This opens the possibility that Thomas had a first wife and possibly another family. Rosa is also a m;ystery. According to the marriage records, she was born in Chesterfield Co, SC. In the 1860 census she is listed as Rosanna, but in others she is Rosa. I have been unable to identify Rosa's parents. Thos and Rosa WATTS had the following children: John Dudley (1859-1929) m Sophronia Mangum Mary Elizabeth "Molly" (1860-1924) m James Owen Gregory N Thomas (ca 1863) listed in 1870 census with parents and 1880 census with Rosa, no other info Annie Lillian (1864-1933) m Jesse Clayton Chisolm Townley Blair (1868-1962) m Henny Evans and Ida Allen Garry Henry (1875-1952) m Mary E Watts and Almetta Douglas Jerome D "Rome" m Ella L Hancock I have a great deal more info on the ancestry and descendants of this family, but would particularly like to find parents of Rosa Watts and info on early years of Thos H Watts. Is anyone researching this family?

My apologies in advance for the length of this posting Greetings All Last Thursday I spent several hours in the Vancouver Public Library researching the Debates of the House of Commons for 1905 and 1906, and the Statutes of Canada for the same years. The main reason for my research was to find where this issue of privacy or secrecy had been debated in the House. I discovered a few interesting things. First of all, the Census and Statistics Act (Chapter 68) of 1906 turns out to be a revision of the Census and Statistics Act (Chapter 5) of 1905, (assented to 16 May 1905). I have just finished doing a clause by clause comparison of the two acts. What I found is that, while not 100 percent so, for the most part the clauses themselves are virtually word for word identical between the two acts. The major difference between the two was between Section 8 of 1905 and Section 12 of 1906. The difference here was that in 1905 the section referred to "the province of Manitoba, and..... the provisional districts of Alberta, Assiniboia, and Saskatchewan in the North-west Territories " and directed that a Census of population and agriculture be taken in the month of June 1906 and every tenth year thereafter. In 1906 the clause referred to "the provinces of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta" and directed a census be taken in the month of June 1916 and every tenth year thereafter. This reflected the fact that Alberta and Saskatchewan had become provinces and incorporated an amendment to the 1905 Act that had been assented to 20 July 1905 (Chapter 6 of 1905 Statutes). The other difference between the Acts of 1905 and 1906 was that where in the 1905 Act, one paragraph or section may have been used to express two or three points, the 1906 Act broke that paragraph in to two or three paragraphs and renumbered them. In some cases the clauses in the 1906 Act were rearranged and grouped differently than in the 1905 Act. This necessitated the renumbering of most of the clauses in the 1906 Act. Where the 1905 Act designated some sub-paragraphs by numbers i.e. (1)...(2)...(3) etc. the 1906 Act did it by lower case letters i.e. (a)...(b)...(c) etc. In spite of these changes it was obvious that the intent was the same between the two bills. It was interesting to note that while Chapter 5 and the amending Chapter 6 for the 1905 Act, and the Act in 1918 all included dates of assent, Chapter 68 of the 1906 Act had none. One other change I found interesting was that where in the 1905 Act a clause referred to "jail", the similar clause in the 1906 Act changed it to "goal" which is a more archaic term used mostly in England. In searching the Debates of the House of Commons for 1906 I was unable to find any reference to either Census or Statistics either in the volumes of debate themselves, or in the Analytical Index to the Debates. This leads me to believe that there was no such discussion in the House in 1906. 1905 however is a different story. The Analytical Index for 1905 gives five columns of references under Census and Statistics. These all refer to Bill 5 - an Act respecting the Census and Statistics presented by the Hon Sydney Fisher, Minister of Agriculture in 1905. I have been unable to find any mention of privacy, confidentiality, or secrecy in any of the references in this index. Unfortunately the volumes of the Debates to which the index refers are not available at the Vancouver library so at this point I am unable to read the actual debates.. There are five volumes of Debates for the first session of the 10th Parliament (1905) and the first three volumes at the VPL were destroyed in a flood. From the page numbers given in the Index I assume the debate of Bill 5 is contained in Volume 1. I have ordered volumes 1 through 3 through inter-library loan but it may take some time to receive them. I have photocopies of the Index references for this. The first session of the tenth Parliament of Canada opened 11 January 1905 and prorogued on 20 July 1905 with the expectation that the second session would begin during the month of August 1905 although in fact it did not start until 8 March 1906. There was no mention of the Census and Statistics Act in the second session, at least not up to the date of the Census in 1906. Having so far found no reference to privacy, secrecy or confidentiality in the sources available to me for Hansard, I had a brilliant (?) revelation. There was no such mention within the 1905 or 1906 Census and Statistics Acts. What they contained was a clause that stated: "The Minister shall make and prescribe all rules, regulations, instructions and forms which he deems requisite for the work and business of the office; and such forms, rules, regulations and instructions, and any such tables of rates of remuneration or allowance, as aforesaid, when assented to by the Governor in Council and published in The Canada Gazette, shall have the force of law." So far as I have determined, no Census act actually had a clause regarding "Secrecy" until the Statistics Act (Chapter 43) of 1918. The clause on which Statistics Canada bases their position of non-disclosure of identifiable information from Census is contained in the "Instructions to Commissioners and Enumerators" proclamed by the Governor General in Council and published in the Canada Gazette of Monday 21 May 1906. This clause states: "26. Every officer or other person employed in any capacity on census work is required to keep inviolate the secrecy of the information gather by the enumerators and entered in the schedules or forms. An enumerator is not permitted to show his schedules to any other person, nor to make or keep a copy of them, nor to answer any question respecting their content, directly indirectly; and the same obligation of secrecy is imposed to commissioners and other officers or employees of the outside service, as well as upon every officer, clerk or other employee of the Census and Statisticsts Offices at Ottawa. The facts and statistics of the census may not be used except for statistical compilation, and positive assurance should be given on this point if a fear is entertained by any person that they may be used for taxation or any other object." Little wonder that we have been unable to find debate in Debates of the House of Commons regarding confidentiality or secrecy clauses in the 1905/1906 Census and Statistics Acts. As the Minister of Agriculture made the rules and regulations which were then Proclaimed by the Governor General acting with the advice of the Privy Council, there was no debate in the House of Commons. THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE THE ISSUE OF CONFIDENTIALITY OF IDENTIFIABLE CENSUS RECORDS -- IT WAS NOT A PART OF BILL 5 (1905) AND AS SUCH WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO DEBATE AT THAT TIME. So far as I can see, this clause could have been solely the idea of one person - the Hon. Sydney Fisher, Minister of Agriculture in 1905. This thought brings up a few more questions which I will attempt to persue further this coming week. Do the Instructions to Enumerators for the Census of 1901 and earlier contain a similarly worded clause to that above? Are there records such as Hansard that cover the meetings of the Privy Council and/or Cabinet and how would they be accessed? If accessible would they be so in sufficient time to be of benefit for a presentation to the Expert Panel on release of Historical Census Records? Food for thought. Happy Hunting. This posting has been sent to the Canada Census Campaign, British Columbia, Census-Chat-L, Colchester, Lunen-Links-L, Ontario-L, PictouRoots, Roots-L, Watts-L, and Wiltshire-EMI-L mail lists. I give my consent to forward without notification. Gordon A. WATTS [email protected] Port Coquitlam, BC ICQ # 9183352 Keep up to date on Post 1901 Census information at http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/index.htm and http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/7843/poll.html Download and circulate Post 1901 Census Petiton now from http://www.globalgenealogy.com/census/petition.htm

Hello all, Thought it was time to post my WATTS headache again. :) Walter Alonzo WATTS was born in December of 1907 in Oklahoma, USA. His siblings were, that I know of, Ernest, Joseph, and Anna Lee Watts. I am told that his father was full blooded Cherokee Indian, but cannot "prove" it. My father has said that he visited this grandfather on a reservation, but that dosen't help much because I never asked him where this reservation was located, and won't be able to... I'm also seriously considering Melungeon hertitage as well..,My grandfather just did not have the features of a "totally" white man, so there must be American Indian or Melungeon ancestry in this line. Getting back to Walter's father, I am also told that he comitted murder, and at some point, probably as a result, Walter and his siblings moved to Putnam County, TN without him. Walter married Allie Mai HARP there. Supposedly his father moved to Texas around that time, where he eventually died. Analee Watts, IBSSG Delano, CA, USA Listowner of SLEEP-L at Rootsweb communities..aka "Enter Sandwoman" ;) The Watts & Rodriguez Family Home Page http://www3.cybercities.com/w/wattsgen/index.html The Watts & Rodriguez Family Home Page Lookup Library at: http://www3.cybercities.com/w/wattsgen/lookup.html (50 people served to date, and counting !) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am trying to see if anyone is related to or knows anything about my Great-Great Grandfather Samuel H. Watts. He was born circa 1849 Lynbrook, NY and died 1924. He lived in Lynbrook all his life. He was a farmer. His mother's name was Mary. He had a sibling that apparently died young. He married a woman named Christianna, they had four children, Mary Elizabeth, Arthur, William and Mabel. Thank You, Catherine Killian