Hi Cathy, Please check out the following site, which I think has the best comparison of available DNA testing houses I've seen, not that I am an expert on that. The cost figures will be different if you join one of the Surname or Geographical Region DNA projects. If you click on the various sites you can compare what is offered. On the Genealogy DNA Rootsweb list there have been several posts from people who have compared their DNA results from different companies and they report they received matching results from each. Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) seems to be more popular, but you should choose based on which you think provides the best deal for you. One example is that FTDNA offers several deals for four basic tests, a 12 marker test, a 25 marker test and a 37 marker test and the mtDNA test. A 12 marker test only tells you your general deep ancestry and who you are not related to, so it is not really that useful except it allows you to pay for the testing slowly. Eventually, you need the most markers tested that you can get since that provides the best definition for matches and near matches. Heritage DNA offers the same basic deals, but their upper end is 41 markers for $199 (vs $239 for 37 markers at FTDNA) and they allow you to pay off your test 1 marker at a time after the first 12. Great for someone with limited financing. Explore this site and select which way to go for yourself. Note that the 12, 25 and 37 marker tests are all for Y-DNA, which is male only, so you would have to get the sample from a male of the line you wish to test. mtDNA can be tested from men or women, but only identifies deep ancestry, not relatives within the last few generations, though it will tell you if you are not related to someone, which is sometimes as useful as a match. Since a surname match is important, but not exclusive, for a Y-DNA test, you may find joining a Surname Group best. There is a link to other companies as well and to a great deal of information on DNA testing. Check out this site: > http://worldfamilies.net/hints.htm I had my test conducted by FTDNA, primarily because I joined the Elliott family and Border Reiver group which is associated with FTDNA. Hope you join us in this great activity and find it as rewarding as I and many of the people who I correspond with have. John Carr On Sep 25, 2004, at 8:46 PM, CathyNagy@aol.com wrote: > > John, >   > would you know what companies doing DNA testing for the genealogy > community are good?  It seems a lot have "popped" up recently. >   > Thank you. >   > Cathy in San Diego

Listers: The following land/deed record is taken from VOLUME 79, pp 373-4, of the "Grantor Index, 1788--1888", Allegheny Co., PA. I copied this information as I have a THOMSON ancestor who is connected to these individuals. I hope it is of help in your family searches. Regards, Marybeth Corrigall =================================================== << "James Thomson Etux William Ferree Etux and William Watson To Alexander Watson To all to whom these presents shall come James Thompson and Elizabeth Watson Thompson of the City of Pittsburgh, William Ferree and Margaret his wife (formerly Margaret Watson) of Washington County and William Watson of Peebles township, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania Said [?] greeting, Whereas William Watson Senior late of the City of Pittsburgh deceased in and by his last will and testamentbearing date the 20th day of November AD 1833, and duly registered in Allegheny County in Will Book Vol. 4, page 130 did among other things give and devise to his son Alexander Watson part of lot No. 185 in the City of Pittsburgh being thirty feet front on Water Street and running back eighty feet the said Alexander however to pay to his sisters Elizabeth Watson Thompson and Margaret Watson (now Margaret Ferree) the sum of Five hundred dollars each and to his brother William Watson the sum of four hundred dollars at the expiration of five years after the decease of the said William Watson Senior without interest as by reference to said Will adn the record thereof will fully appear. And Whereas the said several sums of money above mentioned with all interest for the same have been fully paid and satisfied to us by the said Alexander Watson now therefore be it known that we the above named James Thompson and Elizabeth Watson Thompson hs wife Wm Ferree and Margaret his wife and William Watson for the consideration afores and have revised released and quite claimed and by these presents do each of us for ourselves our executors and administrators revise release and forever quit claim unto the said Alexander Watson his heirs executors, administrators and assigns as well the said part of lot No 185 in the City of Pittsburgh devised to him as above mentioned ass all the said several sums of money in the said last will and testament mentioned to be payable by the said Alexander Watson to us or either of us and also all actions and causes of action accounts, reckonings, claims and demands whatsoever while we or either of us ever had not have or that we or either of us are or either of executors, administrators or assigns can or may have against the said Alexander Watson his heirs, executors, qadministrators or assigns or against athe premises [?] devised to him as aforesaid for or by reason of the said recited last will and testament or any other matter, cause of thing concerning the smae from the beginning of the ??? to the date hereof. In Witness Whereof we have hereunto set our hands and seal this the twentieth day of December A.D. eighteen hundred and forty seven. Sealed and delivered in presence of D.S. Scully (on the part of James Thompson and Elizabeth Thompson) Jas. L. Gaston James Thompson seal Elizabeth Thompson seal William Ferree seal Margaret Ferree seal Wm Watson seal City of Pittsburgh SS Before me an Alderman of said City came toe above named James Thompson and Elizabeth his wife and Wm. Watson and acknowledged the foregoing article to be their act and deed and desired the same might be recorded as such. She the said Elizabeth Thompson being of full age and the contects being fully made known to her declared that she did of her own free will and accord sign, seal and deliver the same without any compulsion or coercion from her said husband. In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this twentieth day of December AD 1847 DS. Scully seal Washington County SS Before me aaa\one of the Justices of the peace in and for said County came the aforesaid William Fa[e]rree and margaret his wife and acknowledged the foregoing article to their act and deed and desired the same might be recorded as such. the said Margaret being of full age and the contents being fully made known to her did declare that she did of her own free will and accord sign and seal and deliver the same without any compulsion or coercesion from her said husband. In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 22d day of Dec AD 1847. Jas. S. Gaston seal Recorded December 24th" 1847." >> =================================================================

hi, sorry ,but my Watsons are from rhode island and new York state

Alice Bredda, b. c. 1600 in England, m. 1st Valentine Prentice in 1626 in Chelmsford, Essex, England. She m. 2nd John Watson in Roxbury, MA after 1632. If you have any information about the descendants of Alice and John, please contact me. Be sure to include the name "Prentice" as a part of the Subject Line of your email. Joe Dewald

William Henry Watson b.1854 Manchester married to Elizabeth Bradshaw from Poynton and later to Margaret Bright (who was also mrs Chapple, her previous marriage) Family David, Mary Ann, Isaac, Joseph, William Henry and Walter the last one being Magarets child I think...family in on the 1901 William 47 and Margaret 42 are at 10 Agnew road, Gorton with Clara Chapple 13, Eliza Chapple 12 and Walter W Watson 4....also found a David and Emily Watson both 27 living at 51 Watson street, Gorton On the 1881 the family are at 3 Waters Meeting, Little Bolton...but david is not there couldn't find him!! there is William Henry 27, Elizabeth 25, Mary Ann 4, Isaac 2, Joseph 1 month. What we know Joseph married Sarah Bateman and is my line.....Can any one else help with the other children Hilary rrichvets@aol.com

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Denise, You can find information at: http://www.dnaheritage.com./ John Middleton ----- Original Message ----- From: "dwatson" <denisewatson@verizon.net> To: <WATSON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: DNA Kit > How do you order the DNA kit? > Thx, > Denise (Mrs. James R. Watson) >

How do you order the DNA kit? Thx, Denise (Mrs. James R. Watson)

Hi All, This morning I posted my personal research of the James Watson Family of Richmond County, NC. to http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncrichmo/jaswatsonfam.html Take a look when you can. Thanks, Myrtle Bridges ncharnet-l@rootsweb.com;ncroots-l@rootsweb.com;ncrobeso-l@rootsweb.com;ncric hmo-l@rootsweb.com;ncmoore-l@rootsweb.com;ncscotla-l@rootsweb.com;nchoke-l@r ootsweb.com;nccumber-l@rootsweb.com;

DNA is a valuable tool to expand our genealogies. I want to pass on some information that I've learned about using DNA for genealogy to others who may not spend the time I have researching this. You joined this list to obtain information from others doing genealogy. Imagine if you were the only person on the list. Recall the thrill when someone joins the list and posts information you need or when you joined and found someone else had already posted information valuable to you, what if they, or you, had never joined the list. It is the same way with the DNA studies, it only works when we all join in and share the information we have. X and Y Chromosome DNA are just two more records we can use to establish our genealogies. If you haven't already, obtain your families DNA pattern today. Compare it against others with your surname and the growing world DNA database. If you have tested, but only the minimal number of DNA markers, you need to add more markers to achieve your objective. Here are some testimonies from others who have found success expanding their genealogies using DNA analysis. The following was posted on GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com. September 24, 2004 10:14:53 AM PDT In my COLE surname project there was another COLE family in SC and AL close to my family, and we have a lot of data suggesting that the two COLE families are related. I had two descendants (Charles and Herbert) of the other COLE family who were tested. When I got the 12 marker results of the Charles, I was extremely disappointed because we were a genetic distance of four from each other on the 12 marker test, clearly indicating (I thought) that it was highly unlikely that we shared a common ancestor. I was heartened when Charles' 25 marker test results came in with a perfect match on the new 13 markers. When Charles' Cousin's 12 marker results came in he was a distance of 3 from me. Again when he got his 25 marker results, the new 13 markers were a perfect match. I got my first Cousin, Minyard, to be tested. His 25 marker results were a distance of one from me; his distance from Herbert was 2, and his distance from Charles was 2. I got another Cousin (third, once removed), Larry, tested. His 25 marker test was a distance of two from me and 1 from Minyard. He was one from Herbert and 2 from Charles. My conclusion was that entire group had a common ancestor. Lessons: 1) Don't jump to a no relation conclusion even if there is a significant distance on 12 markers; 2) 25 marker test is crtitical to assessing possible relationship in some situations; 3) Get a larger sample from different lines to try to fill in connections. Jerry Cole My only interest and gain in encouraging you to join us in the DNA studies is to locate unknown cousins and break through the genealogical brick wall, for myself and all my other cousins conducting genealogical searches, maybe that includes you. John Carr

DNA is a valuable tool to expand our genealogies. I want to pass on some information that I've learned about using DNA for genealogy to others who may not spend the time I have researching this. You joined this list to obtain information from others doing genealogy. Imagine if you were the only person on the list. Recall the thrill when someone joins the list and posts information you need or when you joined and found someone else had already posted information valuable to you, what if they, or you, had never joined the list. It is the same way with the DNA studies, it only works when we all join in and share the information we have. X and Y Chromosome DNA are just two more records we can use to establish our genealogies. If you haven't already, obtain your families DNA pattern today. Compare it against others with your surname and the growing world DNA database. If you have tested, but only the minimal number of DNA markers, you need to add more markers to achieve your objective. Here are some testimonies from others who have found success expanding their genealogies using DNA analysis. The following was posted on GENEALOGY-DNA-L@rootsweb.com. September 24, 2004 10:14:53 AM PDT In my COLE surname project there was another COLE family in SC and AL close to my family, and we have a lot of data suggesting that the two COLE families are related. I had two descendants (Charles and Herbert) of the other COLE family who were tested. When I got the 12 marker results of the Charles, I was extremely disappointed because we were a genetic distance of four from each other on the 12 marker test, clearly indicating (I thought) that it was highly unlikely that we shared a common ancestor. I was heartened when Charles' 25 marker test results came in with a perfect match on the new 13 markers. When Charles' Cousin's 12 marker results came in he was a distance of 3 from me. Again when he got his 25 marker results, the new 13 markers were a perfect match. I got my first Cousin, Minyard, to be tested. His 25 marker results were a distance of one from me; his distance from Herbert was 2, and his distance from Charles was 2. I got another Cousin (third, once removed), Larry, tested. His 25 marker test was a distance of two from me and 1 from Minyard. He was one from Herbert and 2 from Charles. My conclusion was that entire group had a common ancestor. Lessons: 1) Don't jump to a no relation conclusion even if there is a significant distance on 12 markers; 2) 25 marker test is crtitical to assessing possible relationship in some situations; 3) Get a larger sample from different lines to try to fill in connections. Jerry Cole My only interest and gain in encouraging you to join us in the DNA studies is to locate unknown cousins and break through the genealogical brick wall, for myself and all my other cousins conducting genealogical searches, maybe that includes you. John Carr

Hi, I am related through the Carr family of Rhode Island, my direct ancestor is John Watson of narragansset, Rhode Island. Love any info. Lucy Watson Hill Coon

Do you know any Carrs that would be willing to join the DNA study. We are lacking participants from that family. I only know as far back as my Great Grandfather, John James Carr (1817 - 1891) (possibly Ker before emigrating circa 1833) who had a farm in Niagara County, New York from 1850 - 1891. Where he came from before that is a mystery. He married Mary Watson in NYC in 1855 and I believe one of her brothers married a Margaret Carr. John James Carr supposedly emigrated with a brother, but the family has no record of his name. John Carr Researching Carr, Kerr, Watson, Conn, White, Dudley, Heinemann, Plumely, Streng, Kester of Niagara and Erie Counties in New York circa 1850 on, links to Northern Ireland, the British Isles and Europe prior to 1850 On Sep 20, 2004, at 7:40 PM, DONALD MILLIGAN wrote: > Thanks John. The suggestions in the email came to me after much > racking over the issue of trying to reconcile the R1b & other > haplogroups (outside of the Scandinavian & Anglo-Saxon & Norman DNA > that was settled somewhat later than the R1b folk) of Scotland with > the concept that the DNA of the "original" Keltoii did not come in > great numbers or at all into the British Isles, in spite of the fact > that the Celtic culture & language etc. did enter into the Isles in a > very big way! More fodder into the battle! I have some Carr > ancestors from Lancaster Co., PA area circa 1740. One branch were > members of the Donegal Township Presbyterian Church group of > heavy-duty Scots-Irish frontiersmen. Thanks, Don M > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Carr<mailto:jcarrgensearch@earthlink.net> > To: SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCOT-DNA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:22 PM > Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] FW: [DNA] Huge Border Reiver Study Reveals > Diverse Haplogroups

Hi - can anyone help me? I am looking for any info on one Martha Watson born about 1814 England? She married a Mr Clark and later she married James Cason. Any info will really be appreciated. kind regards Mark Barker barkerma@absamail.co.za

hi I am looking for the decendent of david Watson and John Wesley Watson they settled in Polk county,Ar in the community of Cove, and Mesa I believe Jerri

Looking for information on the family of John Watson VA>Anderson County, KY. He died in1839. I believe sons were Nathaniel, William P., Wesley,and Richard. Also a daughter who married a Carlton. Any info or direction would be greatly appreciated. I would like to know if these are all the children, there migration information and any marriage links and gravesites known. Thanks to all!!!!!!!!!!!!! JK

Good morning all, I have hit a very solid brick wall and wondered whether anyone can help. I have a George Watson, born about 1852 Barway, Hertfordshire. He moved to London probably on or before 1876 where he married a Jane Ambrose Cory b. abt. 1855 in Islington. Jane was living with her parents in Finsbury 1871 Their first child Robert James, was born 7/2/1876 in Highgate, and he was followed by George (abt. 1878 Islington) and William (abt. 1881, Islington). 1881 census living at 14 Cumberland Street, Islington, as a Brush Finisher. He went on to become a baker and confectioner, moving to Hackney by 1891. George had died by 1901 but his widow continued as a confectioner in St. Pancras. I would very much like to find out more about George and his origins, and perhpas when/why he moved to London. Can anyone help? Perhaps an 1871 Census for Geroge, or earlier, or his parents in Barway? Any assistance or ideas very much appreciated, Chris Woods Norfolk

Hello! I was on the internet typing in names of my family and was directed to your site. I couldn't believe what I read! This is very helpful information to pass on to my children. Aunt Eunice, is my great Aunt. Her brother, C.C. Kent, was my grandfather. My mother, Elouise Kent, was her neice and grew up around aunt Eunice, Mimmie, Buckey, and Uncle Litt. I've heard the name of Benjamin spoken about all my life. I can remember, when I was a small child, asking mom about our ancestors. Mom also told me what aunt Eunice had said about being related to George Washington. I've got some old books I will go through. Mom has written, in the inside pages of a book, more of the Watson geneology. I've got to find that book now! It even referred to a relative, a woman, who was buried at Liberty cemetery over a hundred years ago. A tornado came through and the stone was lost and no one could find the grave site again. Mom has written down a lot of our family geneology that aunt Eunice had told her about. When I relocate the info, I'll e-mail it to you. Please e-mail me back when you get the chance! Take care. Sincerely, Nancy Vanette Frank

How do I get access to this file about Scotland. Thanks Ingrid Watson