Hi Mark, That English marriage is very interesting. I am down in Fl. now for the winter so don't have my updated family tree with me but am wondering if we have a middle initial of either D or F for any of our children that could possibly be Dance/Danson or Fawcross. We had a convenient Bird and Baker middle name that gave us some pretty good evidence so it sure would be nice if we could turn up another middle name that would give us a clue.f Have we gotten a Watson DNA test started yet? We could get so much further along if we could eliminate some of the Va. Watsons for sure or maybe add them to our line. I know that I can't do the test but I would be happy to try to hunt down a Watson from Jesse's line the son of John that stayed in Va.and contribute to the cost of the DNA test. I am already paying for a test to be done on my Haney line so can't afford to pay for the whole thing but I would be glad to put in part of it. Maybe some day...... Joyce

I am researching the line of James A WATSON born about 1818, died 1895, buried in Alexander Co NC. Married Elizabeth born about 1830, died 1891, also buried in Alexander Co NC. I found them 1870 and 1880 on census in Alexander Co NC. Would like to know where they were in 1850 and 1860. Please check out my family trees at http://tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=saoirse&rand=39897 It is a work in progress so come back often. LAST UPDATED 15 Dec 2004

Hi Joyce: Regarding John WATSON m. Margaret DANCE in the year 1750 in Ryton, Durham, England; I also found a John WATSON (maybe the same John) who married a Margaret FAWCASS 1748 in Ryton England. To review, John WATSON was born in Newcastle, Northumberland England 5 Sep 1725. He married Margaret DANCE/DANSON, dau of John DANCE/DANSON on 29 Jul 1750 in Ryton, Durham, England. She was born 13 Dec 1724 in Cadgerway, Ryton, Durham, England. There were apparently two births recorded to John and Margaret: 1. John WATSON b. 26 Apr 1752 in Ryton, Durham, England 2. William WATSON b. 17 Feb 1754 in Ryton, Durham, England. I found the above at www.familysearch.org and at http://website.lineone.net/~pjoiner/genuki/DUR/Ryton/index.html#Census I began to wonder just how common this incidence would be in England: Having a John WATSON marrying a Margaret, having a son named John, and having the marriage year sufficiently close to our estimate of 1748-1750 for our John and Margaret WATSON of Albemarle VA, who allegedly came from England... Then I crunched some numbers: In 1853, WATSON was the 48th most popular surname in England, with a population of approximately 34,800. 1851 Population of England: 17.9 Million Population of England in 1750: 6.2 Million. Population of WATSON Surname in England 1750: I estimate to be 12000. Census records from 1800 show that males accounted for about 48% of the population. Therefore, we can calculate about 5760 males with the surname WATSON in 1750. Now, how many of these males would be about 20-30 years of age? Using the 1830 U.S. census as a guideline, this age group represents about 16% of all males, which results in 922 male WATSON's aged 20-30 living in England in 1750. How many were named "John"? Well, the best data I can find is a bit dated, but I think we can use it for this exercise - it states that between 1540 and 1700 a study of given names in England reveals that 29% of all males were named "John". Wow. So now we have 267 John WATSONs aged 20-30 living in England in 1750. How many of these married someone named "Margaret"? From the same name study as above, "Margaret" was named to 11% of females. If we consider all of the 267 John WATSONs aged 20-30 were to marry, we end up with about 25 John WATSONs marrying a Margaret in England circa 1750 - who are in the same age group as our John and Margaret of Albemarle VA. This is quite a small number, 25, and yet it includes all those aged 20-30, not just the 22-26 range (as of 1750) which is most likely for our John. So the number can be reduced further with the narrowing of the age range. And we can still reduce it further... but how much is hard to tell... For, how many of these John and Margaret WATSON's named their first son "John", as ours did with John "Hightop" WATSON. If we use the 29% figure (which is likely too low, given the popular naming patterns and the father already bearing that name) we get 7. If the father's name is John, then the likelihood the first son would be named "John" is probably quite a bit higher. Now, all of the above is a mathematical generalization, using data from inexact timeframes. However, I think that we can surmise that any John WATSON marrying a Margaret in England from say, 1745-1752 deserves our close scrutiny, given there would appear to be a very small number of possible matches - likely less than 25! When I have time I will look into the Ryton possibility as the genesis for our Colonial line. Happy New Year! Mark P.S. to the Rootsweb Listers: Anyone researching the WATSON surname from Northumberland or Durham England?

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hi I am looking for information on my Watson.My David Watson b. 1789 is said to be son of James, and grandson of William b 1735 and Sarah b 1739, all of the richlands district of SC.In the 1816 he was a church member in Jackson county Alabama and by 1820 he and his brother Alexander moved to Shelby county Alabama.In 1870 some of his decendents moved back to Jackson county and by 1880 and after the decendent moved to Ark.Okl, Texas.Hope someone can connect. Jerri

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The NEGHS has free access to New England genealogical records this weekend, perhaps you can locate something there. http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ Researching Carr, Kerr, Watson, Conn, White, Dudley, Heinemann, Plumely, Streng, Kester of Niagara and Erie Counties in New York circa 1850 on, links to Northern Ireland, the British Isles and Europe prior to 1850 On Nov 27, 2004, at 1:00 PM, WATSON-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > WATSON-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 99 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Watson-Bushnell ["Mary E. Chapman" > <maziec@earthlin] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from WATSON-D, send a message to > > WATSON-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > > From: "Mary E. Chapman" <maziec@earthlink.net> > Date: November 26, 2004 12:15:01 PM PST > To: WATSON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Watson-Bushnell > > > I am having no luck finding more about John Watson who married Mary > Mahoney in Massachusetts.Their daughter Mary Elizabeth Frances married > EMANUEL BUSHNELL in 1855 > > Maybe the BUSHNELL name will interest a fellow searcher > >

I am having no luck finding more about John Watson who married Mary Mahoney in Massachusetts.Their daughter Mary Elizabeth Frances married EMANUEL BUSHNELL in 1855 Maybe the BUSHNELL name will interest a fellow searcher

My grandfather's name was Samuel Green Watson, but I have not been able to go any further than him. -----Original Message----- From: Randy Watson [mailto:randy.watson@mcpherson.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:14 PM To: WATSON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATSON] Searching again Looking back to see if anyone has linkage to my family. I have been searching for the ancestors of Jonathan Watson, b. 1803/04 in TN, moved to Kentucky where he wed Nancy Tunnell. They had several children - David (my great-great grandfather), Cephas, Susan, Rachel, Samuel, Jane, Nicholas and Kezziah. They moved to Morgan County, Illinois, where Nancy died and Jonathan remarried a Mary J. Later they moved to Missouri where Jonathan died. David and my family settled in Kansas. I have one reference that Jonathan's father was Samuel Watson d. Morgan County, Illinois, married to Rachel, but do not know if that is correct. Randy Watson

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Looking back to see if anyone has linkage to my family. I have been searching for the ancestors of Jonathan Watson, b. 1803/04 in TN, moved to Kentucky where he wed Nancy Tunnell. They had several children - David (my great-great grandfather), Cephas, Susan, Rachel, Samuel, Jane, Nicholas and Kezziah. They moved to Morgan County, Illinois, where Nancy died and Jonathan remarried a Mary J. Later they moved to Missouri where Jonathan died. David and my family settled in Kansas. I have one reference that Jonathan's father was Samuel Watson d. Morgan County, Illinois, married to Rachel, but do not know if that is correct. Randy Watson

Hello Lisa, This is your cousin, my name is Shelly, and I am the daughter of Diana Watson Irvin, she is the daughter of Richard Branford Watson, the sister of Laura, and Ernest, etc. I am new to this, as I have taken on the family research, mom died on 12-31-03, and is so missed. If you want more info on our Granby,Mo.Watsons, Please feel free to e-mail me at ladydealerlv4q@aol.com. Nice to bump into a relative so closely related...:o)

November 18, 2004 Want to Buy Your Family's Coat of Arms? Many people like to purchase Christmas gifts that are "personal." What can be more personal than one's name? I bet that thousands of people will give presents this year that depict a family coat of arms printed on paper, suitable for framing. They also may give coats of arms on t-shirts, sweatshirts, golf jerseys, stationery, coffee mugs, or even key chains. There is only one problem: almost all of them are bogus! In many shopping malls across America, you will see pushcart vendors selling reproductions of coats of arms, claiming to be the "proud history and heritage of your family name" or some such words. Similar "businesses" exist on the Web. A number of Web sites proclaim that they can sell you "authentic" copies of your family's coat of arms. I have one thing to say to these con artists: "Balderdash!" Actually, that's not my first choice of response, but that word will have to suffice in this family newsletter. The study of coats of arms is called heraldry. Those who control the issuance of arms are the heralds. Typically, each country in Western Europe as well as in England, Scotland, and Ireland has an office of the heralds, sometimes called the Kings of Arms. The heralds are empowered to decide who is authorized to display a certain coat of arms. If you do not have authorization from the heralds, you are not authorized to display any coat of arms. The rules are a bit different in the Netherlands and in some eastern European countries. Most Americans seem ignorant of one very basic fact: in most of Western Europe and in all of the British Isles, there is no such thing as a "family coat of arms." A coat of arms is issued to one person, not to a family. After that person is deceased, his primary heir (normally the oldest son) may apply for the same coat of arms. Again, when he dies, his heir may apply. The rules for determining who is eligible to display a coat of arms are very similar to the rules for becoming King or Queen of England. However, even the proper heir cannot display the coat of arms until he or she has received authorization (been confirmed) by the heralds. At any one time, only one person may rightfully display a coat of arms. According to the American College of Heraldry, "While Americans are usually fascinated by the beauty of heraldry, they are rarely familiar with its meaning and traditions and, therefore, often misunderstand and even abuse this rich cultural heritage. They seldom understand that a coat of arms is usually granted, certified, registered or otherwise recognized as belonging to one individual alone, and that only his direct descendants with proven lineage can be recognized as eligible to inherit the arms. Exceptions to this rule are rare." The American College of Heraldry also says, "It is highly inappropriate for one to locate the arms of another person sharing the same surname, and to simply adopt and use these arms as one's own." My interpretation of this is that, if you are displaying an unauthorized coat of arms, you are impersonating someone else. The College of Arms in England (the heralds for English, Welsh, Northern Irish, and Commonwealth families) says, "For any person to have a right to a coat of arms, they must either have had it granted to them or be descended in the legitimate male line from a person to whom arms were granted or confirmed in the past." Despite these warnings, many vendors are making money by preying on Americans' ignorance of the topic. The pushcarts you see in shopping malls typically are franchise operations. One pushcart owner told me that he paid $6,000 for a "franchise" to sell this stuff. The so-called franchise did not include a protected territory; another franchisee was free to set up business in the same area. For the $6,000 investment, the franchisee receives a computer with a database containing thousands of surnames and so-called "family coats of arms," a high-quality printer, a supply of parchment paper, and a supply of coffee cups, key chains and other paraphernalia. These franchisees reportedly receive no training in the study of heraldry. The ones I have talked to didn't recognize the term "College of Arms." The Web sites aren't much better. The ones I have looked at seem to have carefully-worded claims. Instead of saying, "your family's coat of arms," they will say something like "your historical namesakes." Okay, "namesakes" has a different meaning than "ancestors," but it still can be misleading to many people. When a Web site proclaims, "your historical namesakes," most people will think this means "my family." However, if argued in court, the wording on the Web site would probably be considered correct. In short, their statements are legally correct. I doubt if any of these companies will ever be shut down for misrepresenting their wares. The next time someone offers a copy of your "family's coat of arms," ask them for the documentation. They won't have any. If a friend of yours is displaying a coat of arms on his stationery or on his fireplace mantel, I suggest you simply walk away smiling. There's no sense in upsetting a good friendship. But don't be as gullible as your friend. And please, please do not display your "family's coat of arms" on your genealogy Web site unless you have been confirmed by the heralds, okay? If you would like to learn more about the serious study of heraldry and any rights you might have to display a coat of arms, there are a number of Web sites devoted to the truth. Here is a short list of some of the more reputable ones: The College of Arms (the official repository of the coats of arms and pedigrees of English, Welsh, Northern Irish and Commonwealth families and their descendants). This site is operated by the British government: http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/ The Augustan Society at: http://www.augustansociety.org The American College of Heraldry at: http://www.americancollegeofheraldry.org The Baronage Press at: http://www.baronage.co.uk/ None of the above sell printouts on parchment paper, t-shirts, or key chains. However, some of them do sell books and magazines devoted to the study of heraldry. If you use a search engine, you can find many Web sites that claim they can sell "your family's coat of arms" to you. However, you now know that any site that purports to sell "your family coat of arms" is a rip-off. Posted by Dick Eastman on November 18, 2004 at 07:00 AM | Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter http://eogn.typepad.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2004/11/want_to_buy_you.html#more

I found Redick WATSON in Duplin Co., NC early 1800's. He later moved to GA, Colquitt Co. A reputed daughter, Margaret, married Henry Crawford TUCKER in GA, Thomas Co., about 1842. (I have copy of that marriage record) There are several web sites that list Redick's marriage to one Rebecca BRYANT. The folks who have posted this information tell me they have been unable to cite a source for that information other than it was found on ancestry, FHL and/or genealogy.com. Is there are listmember who can tell me when and where Redick WATSON was married and cite family Bible, marriage bond/license, church record, will and/or deeds as proofs? Also, would like to correspond with anyone knowing when and where Redick died? Thanks for any sources/verifiable information/clues to pursue. Awkoska Ranahharris --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! � Try it today!