Mary Anne, Thanks for the interesting note. Here is my situation. I know that Mary Sullivan English and Michael English lived in Glencairn Townland near the intersection of the old access road to Glencairn Abbey, the Jervis Bushe estate, and the road to Lismore. This crossroads was called CastleRichard.. All of the birth records of the eight known children of this couple, among them my grt grandmother Mary English b. abt. 1832, list Castle Richard as the birthplace. Starting in 1837, the children began to emigrate, first Jeremiah, b.1815, then Denis b. 1822, then Brigid (Delia)) b. 1819, then (H)Ellen b. 1817, then Mary b. 1832, then John b. 1835. I cannot account for Michael b. 1824, Andrew b. 1827, or Catherine b. 1829. The parents, Mary Sullivan English at age 53 and Michael English at age abt. 58, sailed for America on the Ship Marmion in 1853. Mary died and was buried at sea. Michael lived on with his daughters in NYC until 1866. When I was in Ireland, I showed an 1895 photo I had of my great grandmother, Mary English (Coleman) as an old lady to John Barry, the farmer I mentioned who owns a large part of the former Bushe estate. He looked at the picture and exclaimed, "She looks just like Bridgy Roche!" John and Brigid Roche, bachelor and spinster brother and sister, lived in the former English estate cottage into the 1940s-50s. I wondered if Catherine English, the child mentioned above, married a Roche after her parents left for America and brought along as dowry the lease to this small holding. It could account for the similarity in appearance. Those wonderful genes! Also, now, it is possible that Michael and Andrew stayed behind, married and had children. Do you know the ancestry of your Honoria English Barry? When I was in Ireland I spoke with Father Paddy Barry in Conna, a cousin of my Johnny Barry of Glencairn. Is he related to your Barry's? I know there are lots of them about, but wouldn't it be great if there was a connection. Please keep in touch. I have the Waterford Heritage Survey doing a Roche search for me and I have plans to travel to Salt Lake in Dec. to do more with the great resources they have on Ireland. Best, Sheila MacAvoy Block [email protected] wrote: > Hi Sheila -- > I've just come back from Ireland as well and your post intrigues me. > I met with a Barry cousin who lives in Conna, near Ballyduff, where my > grandmother lived until she emmigrated. Her mother was Nora (Hanora, > Nanno) English, father Michael Barry. Their farm was left to the only > brother who stayed in Ireland, John Barry. He would've assumed > ownership sometime after his father died in 1900. I don't know of > anyone named Roche but will ask. > Sláinte! > Mary Anne ni O'Connor > >