You've gone about it the right wzy, Jim. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find an ancestor in Ireland with no evidence of where to look. But I brok that rule and found my Scanlon ancestors in Ballyduff Upper by using Griffiths because, like you, I had the surname of the mother and the father (Fox and Scanlon) and found someone in Ballyduff familiar with local family histories. Unfortunately, he died soon after we made contact and I didn't get much more than some photos of the family homestead. Which, of course, was wonderful. If I were you, I would concentrate on other Irish in Providence. Many people came to the U.S. with someone else, or because someone related or known to them was already here. And they settled in the same cities. See if there is a family history society in Providence and join it and seek out the members and see where their ancestors came from. Check the census where your ancestors lived and see who they were neighbors of. Check the local newspapers and the library and see if anybody has written on the "Irish of Providence." etc., etc, etc. Go over sources that you looked at when you first started out. There may be more information there by now. It might take a long time, but that is probably the only way that it can productively be done. And by all means, watch and see what is happening in Boherboy and the other Irish city you found. More and more Irish are becoming active in genealogy. Someone might be looking for you. Good Luck, and have a Happy St. Patrick's Day! Ray Marshall Minneapolis Seeking Scanlon and Fox in Ballyduff Upper, Lismore, Waterford. Reidy, Aherne, McAuliffe, Hartnett, Loughnane and Flynn in County Kerry Carney possibly in Waterford or Cork -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Gorman Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:47 PM To: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise Hello list, I have been researching my family history for a while now and have determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some hints on what to do next? James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland They were Roman Catholic. Thank you very much! Jim Gorman Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11

Jim, Is it possible they came in 1851? The Library of Congress has an online database of famine era arrivals into the US; the database arrival dates into the US are 1848 - 1851 only. There are lots of Gormans in the database. In case you are not familiar with the database (and the arrival might have been 1851) - it is www.aad.archives.gov . The online database is under the category immigration - Irish famine era arrivals - if I remember correctly. Maureen N I have been researching my family history for a while now and have etermined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the s in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born bout 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. -----Original Message----- rom: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Gorman ent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:47 PM o: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com ubject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise ello list, I have been researching my family history for a while now and have etermined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the s in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born bout 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I ave never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record or their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). hey were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they ame from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, I where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to rovincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his rother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns here Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One f these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some ints on what to do next? James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland ary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland illiam Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland They were Roman Catholic. Thank you very much! Jim Gorman lease double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it ut at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: aterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- o virus found in this message. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message