Hi Janet I've now backtracked to my recently downloaded baptism records from the rootsireland website Wateford record set. Although the individual records are headed "Church Bapism Record", the actual parish given (at least the four RC records I've downloaded so far) is categorised as  "Parish/Distict"  ...... which doesn't really nail it - for the parish could still be either the ecclesiastical or civil parish! But if a search of the rootsireland websie is made via the "County Genealogy Centres" link (left side of the page) it then becomes possible to make a more detailed search - for a drop-down menu of actual parishes then becomes available. This dropdown menu gives a list of 40 parishes for Waterdord, listed in in alphabetical order, starting with "Abbeyside RC" and ending with "Trinity Without RC"  - but whether this list is of ecclesiastical parishes, civil parishes or a mixture, I can't tell. Would be gratefull if you had any thoughts on the list privided in the dropdown menu. Thanks, Liz  --- On Mon, 17/10/11, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] Civil and Ecclesiastical paroshes & baptism records To: waterford@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 17 October, 2011, 23:53 OK, Liz, now you have me thinking, too. If the record is a church record and was reported, as it should be from the RC or C of I parish, then, yes, the parish referenced should be the church parish. I think it was the way that Stuart's record was referenced that made me think civil parish for some reason. I have to go back and look at it again. The index that one looks at before asking for the record should be the clue as it should say church baptism/marriage or civil baptism/marriage. Until we are very sure what records we are going to be looking at for Waterford, we will have to note that index reference very carefully. Janet On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Liz Evans <ivevans@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hi Janet > I thought I had it all worked out until I read your earlier response to > Stuart’s enquiry about his Sheehans - after which, I thought "Oh no!"  ....for until I read your post, I thought the Waterford > baptism records were giving the Ecclesiastical parish!My family, originally from Wicklow before they moved to South Wales early 1850’s, had one child > baptised in Stradbally (1841) then another in Kill (1847). The Griffiths > Valuation in 1851 has the family in the Civil Parish of Monkland, and townland > Kilduane - near the junction where the R681 intersects with the > R675. > > > > > > From earlier helpful posting from Waterford > listers back in May this year, I had two possibilities: Stradbally, for it > seems that in 1846 baptisms were in Stradbally because mine employees were no > longer supported in Kill or Newtown Parishes or, as an alternative, Ballylaneen (St. Anne's > church). > > > > But when I recently found the relevant baptism record from 1847 was Kill, I thought this indicated Our > Lady of Mount Carmel, Kill. As, however, this is > the Civil Parish, it now seems that the 1841 baptism had the family living in Civil Parish > of Stradbally, and the they moved by 1847 to the Civil Parish of Kill >  -  but the actual baptisms could still have been in the same church > – but where neither of these was Kill’s Our Lady of Mount Carmel, Kill! > > > > > Deeply confused....Liz > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message