Hi Janet, Didn't see this before my prior post today. Oohh, I'd be thrilled if we could make any progress with this family. As in Waterford, here are the baptisms for each of the known children of James /PHELAN/WHELAN and Mary DALY. Until the records were discovered in Ireland, the name we always had/used for my grandmother was as WHALEN. While in Waterford, 2003, I ended up getting 2+ hours in the local registry office. I tried to extract anything re PHELAN/WHELAN/DALY in the limited time. The finds are in an Excel chart. Also visited Trinity Without and took photos of (and transcribed) headstones for both. Happy to share. Will continue off-list re Boston/Cambridge, MA items . . . . Children of James /PHELAN/WHELAN and Mary DALY Child 1: Mary Margaret (my grandmother; went by Margaret) BIRTH: Registration Date: Aug 28, 1867; Register WAT URB 1 BTH Bk 7, page 15; Union: Waterford; District: Waterford; entry 74; Registrar: Delandre V.R. (Dep) 17 August 1867. Barrack Street. Mary Margaret, female; d/o James WHELAN, baker, Barrack St., Mary Anne WHELAN, formerly DALY. Informant: Margaret (X Mark, present at birth) McDonald, Kings Terrace BAPTISM: 18 August 1867. Parish: Ballybricken Church Ballybricken Register: B/1844-74 P.397 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 2/- PHELAN, Mary Margaret; Father: James; Mother DALY, Mary A. Sponsors: PHELAN Michael; GRACE Catherine Priest: McGRATH T. Child 2: Catherine BIRTH Registration Date: 19 Nov 1869; Register WAT URB 1 BTH Bk 10, page 93; Union: Waterford; District: Waterford; entry 463; Registrar: Hela???, P.F 1 November 1869. Barrack Street. Catherine, female; d/o James WHELAN, baker, Barrack St., Mary Ann WHELAN, formerly DALY. Informant: Elizabeth (X Mark, present at birth) HEARN, Morrice Road BAPTISM: 31 Oct 1869. Parish: Ballybricken Church Ballybricken Register: B/1844-74 P.431 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 2/- PHELAN, Catherine; Father: James; Mother DALY, Mary A. Sponsors: DALY Daniel; MURPHY Mary Priest: McGRATH T. Child 3: Anastasia BIRTH: Registration Date: First May 1871; Register WAT URB 1 BTH Bk 13, page 31; Union: Waterford; District: Waterford; entry 153; Registrar: Hela???, P.F 10 April 1871. Barrack Street. Anastatia, female; d/o James PHELAN, baker, Barrack St., Mary Anne PHELAN, formerly DALY. Informant: Elizabeth (X Mark, present at birth) HEARN, Morrisons Road BAPTISM: 12 Mar 1871. Parish: Ballybricken; Church: Ballybricken; Register: B/1844-74 P.453 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 1/- PHELAN, Anastasia; Father: James; Mother DALY, Mary A. Sponsors: DALY James; CORCORAN Anastasia Priest: Quealy W. Child 4: Bridget BIRTH: Registration Date: Twenty eighth August 1872; Register WAT URB 1 BTH Bk 15, page 68; Union: Waterford; District: Waterford; entry 337; Registrar: Hela???, P.F 8 August 1872. Barrack Street. Bridget, female; d/o James PHELAN, baker, Barrack St., Mary Anne DALY, formerly PHELAN. Informant: Johanna (X Mark, present at birth) POWER, Blakes? Lane Margin Note: In entry 337 Col 6 read PHELAN as married surname and in same entry same col read DALY as maiden surname as in deposition Johanna (X Mark) POWER. ?? Delandre, Registrar 31 July 1874 BAPTISM: 26 July 1872. Parish: Ballybricken; Church: Ballybricken; Register: B/1844-74 P.477 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 1/- PHELAN, Bridgid; Father: James; Mother DALY, Mary A. Sponsors: DALY Daniel; CORCORAN Catherine Priest: Quealy W. Child 5 Julia BIRTH: Not found in BMD office, Waterford for 1873/4 BAPTISM: 14 Dec 1873. Parish: Ballybricken; Church: Ballybricken; Register: B/1844-74 P.498 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 2/- PHELAN, Julia; Father: James; Mother: DALY, Mary Ann Sponsors: DALY James; CONNORS Mary Priest: McGrath T. Child 6 John BIRTH Registration Date: Eighteenth May 1875; Register WAT URB 1 BTH Bk 20, page 43; Union: Waterford; District: Waterford; entry 43; Registrar: Delander, P.F 27 April 1875. Barrack Street. John, male; s/o James PHELAN, baker, Barrack St., Mary Ann PHELAN, formerly DALY. Informant: Ellen WHITE, Present at birth; Spring Garden Alley BAPTISM: 2 May 1875. Parish: Ballybricken Church Ballybricken Register: B/1875-83 P.6 Address: Barrack Street, Stipend 2/- PHELAN, John; Father: James; Mother DALY, Mary Ann Sponsors: DALY James; O'KEEFFE Ann Priest: QUEALY William Child 7 Stella (only a maybe for now) Nothing from Ireland. Rather, my aunt noted her mother's sister, Stella in a note and I found a Stella marriage (citing parents James WHALEN/Mary DALY as her parents), Boston, 1898. Certainly speculative, including her for now, while exploring. Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet A Peterson Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:35 PM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD; BALLYBRICKEN;Barrack St and look up I think our families are probably related; perhaps cousins.  My great grandfather was: James Phelan born 23 March 1876 and his parents were Thomas Phelan and Ellen Phelan nee Power.  Thomas Phelan was a baker who lived at Trinity Without, Ballybricken on Barrack St. James Phelan married Ellen Morrissey in Oct of 1899 at Holy Trinity Without, Ballybricken. (I have a pic of the church from that time if anyone would like it-let me know).  Ellen Morrissey listed Yellow Road as her residence on her civil marriage record. Her parents were Michael Morrissey and Catherine nee Power. James and Ellen moved to the US an arrived on the Ivernia 28 Apr 1900. )I thought it was interesting that your Phelan's were in Cambridge. The ship manifest lists four people from Waterford-two were James and Ellen and one was a Dan Collins. It always looked to me like the person making the record came down the list with names and then headed back up the list when filling out the rest. Although it states that Dan Collins was headed for Cambridge it said my great grandparents were headed to Yonkers. I still wonder about that. Cambridge is very close to Somerville where my great grandparents settled.)   CARA:  I think it may have been my  message that you saw.  I have only the civil record for the marriage of James Phelan and Ellen Morrissey.  I posted that I would like to have the church record as I hoped it might have mothers names on it.  The civil record lists only fathers. MARTHA:  It might be useful to compare notes about our families. Perhaps we could do that between the two of us and then post any fruitful outcomes on the board rather than use the board for wonderings?  Either way is fine.  I think my James and Ellen probably headed for Cambridge as the ship manifest noted because they had relatives there.    Janet Phelan