G'day Folks, I am researching some of my GGGrandparents who apparently came to Australia in the 1840s, I have one side of the family and am now endeavouring to locate records for the other. These people are a John WILLIAMS who has been described as an Artillery Officer and Gardener and his wife Susanna BOWLES who would have married about 1822. All records found in Oz indicate that the family came from Clonmel and I have documents showing that three daughters definitely came from Clonmel. Surviving children from the marriage were Elizabeth, Margaret, Ann, John and Thomas Bowles WILLIAMS. Susanna BOWLES' parents were Thomas and Mary (SIMPSON) but I do not have any idea as to the parents of John WILLIAMS. I have located what appear to be burials for these at St Mary's C of I, Clonmel. Their ages at death indicate that Thomas was born abt 1763 and Mary three years later. Mary died in 1833 and Thomas in 1841. If John was an Artillery Officer then he may not have come from Clonmel, or Ireland for that matter, and was part of the Military Garrison there. This is all so new to me, for years I researched my family line without an Irish connection and then suddenly I was confronted by not only this WILLIAMS family but also another separate line from Co Armagh. Needless to say my research and geography knowledge of Ireland needed to improve rather rapidly. Hoping that someone my be able to assist in finding the marriage and origins of the above people. Thanks, Bill Iggleden Melbourne, Oz -- Maybe we have so long ridiculed authority in the family and discipline in education and decency in conduct and law in the state that the freedom we fought so hard for has brought us close to chaos. And it could be that our leaders no longer understand the relationship between themselves and the people they lead. ~ Legendary football coach Vince Lombardi (1913 - 1970)

I don't know but there are a slew of Williams In Bay Bulls, Newfoundland and they had associations with Boston and Massachusettes area.  They are indeed Irish background.  They are in my trees to.  Try google Chebucto.   ________________________________ From: Billeye <billeye@optusnet.com.au> To: WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com; IRL-CORK-L@rootsweb.com; BOWLES@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 3:42:06 AM Subject: [WATERFORD] MARRIAGE OF WILLIAMS AND BOWLES OF CLONMEL   G'day Folks, I am researching some of my GGGrandparents who apparently came to Australia in the 1840s, I have one side of the family and am now endeavouring to locate records for the other. These people are a John WILLIAMS who has been described as an Artillery Officer and Gardener and his wife Susanna BOWLES who would have married about 1822. All records found in Oz indicate that the family came from Clonmel and I have documents showing that three daughters definitely came from Clonmel. Surviving children from the marriage were Elizabeth, Margaret, Ann, John and Thomas Bowles WILLIAMS. Susanna BOWLES' parents were Thomas and Mary (SIMPSON) but I do not have any idea as to the parents of John WILLIAMS. I have located what appear to be burials for these at St Mary's C of I, Clonmel. Their ages at death indicate that Thomas was born abt 1763 and Mary three years later. Mary died in 1833 and Thomas in 1841. If John was an Artillery Officer then he may not have come from Clonmel, or Ireland for that matter, and was part of the Military Garrison there. This is all so new to me, for years I researched my family line without an Irish connection and then suddenly I was confronted by not only this WILLIAMS family but also another separate line from Co Armagh. Needless to say my research and geography knowledge of Ireland needed to improve rather rapidly. Hoping that someone my be able to assist in finding the marriage and origins of the above people. Thanks, Bill Iggleden Melbourne, Oz -- Maybe we have so long ridiculed authority in the family and discipline in education and decency in conduct and law in the state that the freedom we fought so hard for has brought us close to chaos. And it could be that our leaders no longer understand the relationship between themselves and the people they lead. ~ Legendary football coach Vince Lombardi (1913 - 1970) Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message