Hello! My name is Mary Ann Pickett from New London, Mo & because of my grt/grt/gr/father, Michael Flinn, I'm here typing this e-mail to the list. It appears Michael Flinn left for the States in March of 1851. I do not know if Michael was married at the time, or if he married Mary Buckley in Boston, Mass. All I know for sure is that Michael Flinn was born 29 Jan of 1821 in Waterford, Ireland. Michael passed away on 29 Jan 1896 in either Brookfield or St. Catherine, Linn Co, Mo. Mary Flinn nee Buckley was born May of 1832 in Cork, Ireland. Mary passed away Sep 25, 1902 in St. Catherine, Linn, Mo. Both are buried at St. Michael's Cemetery in Brookfield, Linn, Mo. I have been to their graves. There is some confusion over the spelling of their surname. On their headstone their last name is listed as FLINN. However, their son, Patrick John, spelled his surname as FLYNN. Patrick John is buried at Calvary Cemetery in St. Louis, Mo. I do not know what townland or parish the Flinn's were from. If I knew this fact it would help in the original spelling of their surname. When the Flinn / Flynn's came to America they settled in Boston, Mass with the Buckley's. Family folklore has it that Michael Flinn was in fact a glassblower by trade. However, there is no proof at this time. If he { Michael } was indeed a glassblower, he gave all that up for farming when they settled in St. Catherine, Yellow Creek, Linn, Mo. It seems that Micahel & Mary owned a farm just West of St. Catherine, Linn, Mo. There is a small town in Linn Co, Mo called Bucklin. I was informed by one of the locals it's original name was Buckley then later changed to Bucklin, Mo. Children to Michael & Mary were - Joseph { died when he was abt age 2 - buried in Sandwich, Mass ? } Margaret Flinn Lamey- buried at Holy Family Cemetery Hannibal, Marion, Mo. Patrick John Flynn married Kathryn Riley- both are buried at a STL Cemetery. Nora Flinn Demmer- buried at Holy Family Cemetery Hannibal, Marion, Mo Mary Flinn Morris { my grt/gr/mother } she & her husband, Harvey Morris, are buried at Holy Family Cemetery Hannibal, Marion, Mo. And Bridget Flinn Stouffer - buried at KC, Jackson, Mo. Bridget was the only child to Michael & Mary Flinn born in Mo. The rest were born in Mass. Any help would be kindly appreciated. I always like to ask - Do I have any cousins on this list ? Mary Ann Pickett New London, Mo irish2@rallstech.com ps - my cousin Patrick Flynn is tracing our Irish roots.

Sorry forgot to give details. Edward Neill/O'neill to Anne/hannah/Johanna Murphy, maiden name St Leger/Butler Thanks Julie

I wonder if anyone will be going to the Waterford records office in the future. I am trying to find a marriage cert for my GGrandmothers second Marriage. I have tried the new search oh the IFHF website but she is not showing. According to the 1911 census she had been married 6 years, as they lived near the border with Waterford I thought maybe they married there. there are no records on the IFHF for Waterford, and when I emailed Waterford to enquire, they wanted 100 euros. I only need to know if there is a record there. Thanks Julie -

Pete: Nice to see you surface again on the internet. Remember me? I had the pleasure of meeting you several years back... You shared some of your fabulous wirk and we talked about the old Ardo House ruins in Ardmore... great visit. I see now that you have new resources.... Do you have any info on the old townland of Mongagh in Lissonuffy Parish, Roscommon ... near Scramogue? I have very little data...and wonder if anyhting is available pre... griffiths.... pre ordin maps. The size has been listed as 341 acres... more than half in bog land. My great grandfather and great great grandfather were listed there. Patrick Kelly was the name... then his son Luke. Just interested if you have a chance?? Hope all is well. You sound as busy as ever... Eileen Myers 630 Holmes Road Pittsfield, MA ( in case this helps you to remember :) -----Original Message----- From: PeteScherm@aol.com To: waterford@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 5:58 pm Subject: [WATERFORD] An interesting set of books I have recently received - via Interlibrary loan - the 3-volume set of illiam Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland", ublished between 1814 and 1819 by different publishers in Dublin. The OCLC umber is 316363313. I have now copied the books (over 2200 pages !!!) and eturned the originals......and am now in the process of re-binding the copies. The author was Secretary to the Board of Public Records. Although the uthor and most of his sources were Church of Ireland (perhaps still C of E at hat time ???), the content doesn't seem show any bias in favor of the stablished Church - in fact, what I have read so far seems quite sympathetic to the general RC population. The volumes contain information on 79 Parishes/Unions of the Established hurch, 18 of which are in the Northern six-counties. They do not represent nything like totality of coverage of Ireland, and what parishes/unions are escribed don't seem to follow any pattern. For example, there are 10 Co. ork parishes, but not a single entry for Kerry. Some parishes receive only 6 r 7 pages while most of them are 15 or so pages. Some parishes have ownland maps, most from the Down Survey, and nearly all have individual ownland nformation, such as acreages, proprietors, translations of townland name, tc. I would guess that the townland information could be helpful, as this ata is from a period prior to the start of the Ordnance Survey.....and a ecade before Griffith's Boundary Department started "operating" on the ownlands and parishes and redefining (in some cases) the boundaries, etc. Here is the "Table of the Sections" for the books: "TABLE OF THE SECTIONS, According to which the account of every parish is arranged in this volume. - The name of the parish, ancient and modern; its situation, extent, and ivision, climate and topographical description. II - Mines, minerals, and all other natural productions. III - Modern buildings both public and private, including towns, villages, entlemen's seats, inns, &c. - the roads, scenery, and superficial ppearance of the parish. IV - Ancient buildings, monastic and castellated ruins, monuments and nscriptions, or other remains of antiquity. V - Present and former state of population; the food, fuel, and general ppearance; mode of living and wealth of the inhabitants; diseases and nstances of longevity. VI - The genius and dispositions of the poorer classes; their language, anners and customs, &c. VII - The education and employment of their children, schools, state of earning, public libraries, &c. collection of Irish MSS, or historical ocuments relating to Ireland. VIII - State of the religious establishment, mode of tythes, parochial unds and records, &c. IX - Modes of agriculture, crops, stocks of cattle, rural implements, chief roprietors' names, and average value of land, prices of labour, fairs and arkets, &c. X - Trade and manufactures, commerce, navigation and shipping, freight, &c. XI - Natural curiosities, remarkable occurrences, and eminent men. XII - Suggestions for improvement; and means for ameliorating the situation f the people. APPENDIX - Consisting of statistical tables, containing the value of the tock, annual produce of the parish, &c.&c." s it would be impractical for me to enter much of the information into -mails, I tried to see if these volumes are available on-line. Google Books eems to have only volume 2, which seems odd. But perhaps it's because of my low dial-up connection and have difficulty accessing sites meant for roadband access. However, for those interested - and on a suitable connection t might be worthwhile to check it out. For me, I'll choose a printed book ny day.........especially the old ones. The two-hundred-year-old smell is abulous. Too bad I wasn't able to also copy the aroma [gr]. I plan on sending this general information to most of the Republic's county ailing lists over the next week or so, with added specific comments on the arts of that particular county described in the books. Although I no onger have much in the way of "free time", I'd be willing to answer questions hat don't require a lot of typing (reading is OK, lotsa typing isn't). Co. Waterford has three entries. The first two below are in vol. 1, the hird is in vol. 3. Drumcannon parish also includes the civil parishes of allygunner, Kilmacleague, Kilmacomb and "the impropriate rectory of Kilbarry". Twenty-two pages. The second parish in this volume is Lismore (now ismore and Mocollop). This entry of 11 pages does not include an itemization f he townlands (too many of them, probably). The entry in vol. 3 is tradbally, which also includes Ballylaheen and Clonlea civil parishes. The ownland names and their meanings are listed, but no details of the townlands eyond that. ete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts /HTML> lease double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I have recently received - via Interlibrary loan - the 3-volume set of William Shaw Mason's "Statistical account, or Parochial survey of Ireland", published between 1814 and 1819 by different publishers in Dublin. The OCLC number is 316363313. I have now copied the books (over 2200 pages !!!) and returned the originals......and am now in the process of re-binding the copies. The author was Secretary to the Board of Public Records. Although the author and most of his sources were Church of Ireland (perhaps still C of E at that time ???), the content doesn't seem show any bias in favor of the Established Church - in fact, what I have read so far seems quite sympathetic to the general RC population. The volumes contain information on 79 Parishes/Unions of the Established Church, 18 of which are in the Northern six-counties. They do not represent anything like totality of coverage of Ireland, and what parishes/unions are described don't seem to follow any pattern. For example, there are 10 Co. Cork parishes, but not a single entry for Kerry. Some parishes receive only 6 or 7 pages while most of them are 15 or so pages. Some parishes have townland maps, most from the Down Survey, and nearly all have individual townland information, such as acreages, proprietors, translations of townland name, etc. I would guess that the townland information could be helpful, as this data is from a period prior to the start of the Ordnance Survey.....and a decade before Griffith's Boundary Department started "operating" on the townlands and parishes and redefining (in some cases) the boundaries, etc. Here is the "Table of the Sections" for the books: "TABLE OF THE SECTIONS, According to which the account of every parish is arranged in this volume. I - The name of the parish, ancient and modern; its situation, extent, and division, climate and topographical description. II - Mines, minerals, and all other natural productions. III - Modern buildings both public and private, including towns, villages, gentlemen's seats, inns, &c. - the roads, scenery, and superficial appearance of the parish. IV - Ancient buildings, monastic and castellated ruins, monuments and inscriptions, or other remains of antiquity. V - Present and former state of population; the food, fuel, and general appearance; mode of living and wealth of the inhabitants; diseases and instances of longevity. VI - The genius and dispositions of the poorer classes; their language, manners and customs, &c. VII - The education and employment of their children, schools, state of learning, public libraries, &c. collection of Irish MSS, or historical documents relating to Ireland. VIII - State of the religious establishment, mode of tythes, parochial funds and records, &c. IX - Modes of agriculture, crops, stocks of cattle, rural implements, chief proprietors' names, and average value of land, prices of labour, fairs and markets, &c. X - Trade and manufactures, commerce, navigation and shipping, freight, &c. XI - Natural curiosities, remarkable occurrences, and eminent men. XII - Suggestions for improvement; and means for ameliorating the situation of the people. APPENDIX - Consisting of statistical tables, containing the value of the stock, annual produce of the parish, &c.&c." As it would be impractical for me to enter much of the information into e-mails, I tried to see if these volumes are available on-line. Google Books seems to have only volume 2, which seems odd. But perhaps it's because of my slow dial-up connection and have difficulty accessing sites meant for broadband access. However, for those interested - and on a suitable connection - it might be worthwhile to check it out. For me, I'll choose a printed book any day.........especially the old ones. The two-hundred-year-old smell is fabulous. Too bad I wasn't able to also copy the aroma [gr]. I plan on sending this general information to most of the Republic's county mailing lists over the next week or so, with added specific comments on the parts of that particular county described in the books. Although I no longer have much in the way of "free time", I'd be willing to answer questions that don't require a lot of typing (reading is OK, lotsa typing isn't). Co. Waterford has three entries. The first two below are in vol. 1, the third is in vol. 3. Drumcannon parish also includes the civil parishes of Ballygunner, Kilmacleague, Kilmacomb and "the impropriate rectory of Kilbarry". Twenty-two pages. The second parish in this volume is Lismore (now Lismore and Mocollop). This entry of 11 pages does not include an itemization of the townlands (too many of them, probably). The entry in vol. 3 is Stradbally, which also includes Ballylaheen and Clonlea civil parishes. The townland names and their meanings are listed, but no details of the townlands beyond that. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

And what type of answer is that? to the question I asked? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Langley" <paircfada@eircom.net> To: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com>; <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > Dee is a name I associate with Dungarvan. > I suspect it is derived from Decies an ancient Celtic tribe. > Peter. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com> > To: <waterford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:07 AM > Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > > >> Seing as Dee is in actual fact O'Dea or Dea did you choose to use these >> names as well when you searched for the common denominator of Gorman and >> Dee. O"Dea? >> >> Cheers for the moment >> Cara >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Gorman" <jms.gorman@gmail.com> >> To: <WATERFORD@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:45 AM >> Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise >> >> >>> Hello list, >>> >>> I have been researching my family history for a while now and have >>> determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to >>> the >>> us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born >>> about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. >>> I >>> have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth >>> record >>> for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal >>> record). >>> They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where >>> they >>> came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in >>> Providence, >>> RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to >>> Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his >>> brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. >>> >>> Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns >>> where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. >>> One >>> of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some >>> hints on what to do next? >>> >>> James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland >>> Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland >>> William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland >>> >>> They were Roman Catholic. >>> >>> Thank you very much! >>> >>> Jim Gorman >>> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >>> >>> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check >>> it >>> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >>> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >>> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was a general observation on the subject of the Dee name. I thought it might be helpful but obviously it wasn't. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com> To: <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 3:28 AM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > And what type of answer is that? to the question I asked? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Langley" <paircfada@eircom.net> > To: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com>; <waterford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:19 PM > Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > > >> Dee is a name I associate with Dungarvan. >> I suspect it is derived from Decies an ancient Celtic tribe. >> Peter. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com> >> To: <waterford@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise >> >> >>> Seing as Dee is in actual fact O'Dea or Dea did you choose to use >>> these >>> names as well when you searched for the common denominator of Gorman >>> and >>> Dee. O"Dea? >>> >>> Cheers for the moment >>> Cara >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "James Gorman" <jms.gorman@gmail.com> >>> To: <WATERFORD@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:45 AM >>> Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise >>> >>> >>>> Hello list, >>>> >>>> I have been researching my family history for a while now and have >>>> determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to >>>> the >>>> us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born >>>> about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. >>>> I >>>> have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth >>>> record >>>> for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal >>>> record). >>>> They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where >>>> they >>>> came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in >>>> Providence, >>>> RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to >>>> Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his >>>> brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. >>>> >>>> Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns >>>> where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. >>>> One >>>> of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me >>>> some >>>> hints on what to do next? >>>> >>>> James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland >>>> Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland >>>> William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland >>>> >>>> They were Roman Catholic. >>>> >>>> Thank you very much! >>>> >>>> Jim Gorman >>>> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >>>> >>>> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >>>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------- >>>> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check >>>> it >>>> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >>>> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >>>> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >>> >>> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check >>> it >>> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >>> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >>> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

It is almost over here, with one million attending the parade in Dublin today. For those who haven't been to Ireland yet and for those who want to come over http://tinyurl.com/5st6xua Janet

Seing as Dee is in actual fact O'Dea or Dea did you choose to use these names as well when you searched for the common denominator of Gorman and Dee. O"Dea? Cheers for the moment Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gorman" <jms.gorman@gmail.com> To: <WATERFORD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:45 AM Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > Hello list, > > I have been researching my family history for a while now and have > determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the > us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born > about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I > have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth > record > for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal > record). > They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where > they > came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in > Providence, > RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to > Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his > brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. > > Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns > where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. > One > of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some > hints on what to do next? > > James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland > Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland > William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland > > They were Roman Catholic. > > Thank you very much! > > Jim Gorman > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another possibility are naturalization records. Not much information in early records, but there is an outside chance that PoB includes more than "Ireland" Dave Collins Hudson, MA, USA > . > 1. genealogy advise (James Gorman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 16:45:25 -0400 > From: James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > To: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin1ZH2Yav5m61eDonBSmuy8DA91b71iLMR1ETUO@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello list, > > I have been researching my family history for a while now and have > determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the > us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born > about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I > have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record > for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). > They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they > came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, > RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to > Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his > brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. > > Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns > where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One > of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some > hints on what to do next? > > James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland > Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland > William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland > > They were Roman Catholic. > > Thank you very much! > > Jim Gorman > >

Dee is a name I associate with Dungarvan. I suspect it is derived from Decies an ancient Celtic tribe. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cara_links@bigpond.com> To: <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:07 AM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > Seing as Dee is in actual fact O'Dea or Dea did you choose to use these > names as well when you searched for the common denominator of Gorman and > Dee. O"Dea? > > Cheers for the moment > Cara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Gorman" <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > To: <WATERFORD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 7:45 AM > Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > > >> Hello list, >> >> I have been researching my family history for a while now and have >> determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to >> the >> us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born >> about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. >> I >> have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth >> record >> for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal >> record). >> They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where >> they >> came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in >> Providence, >> RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to >> Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his >> brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. >> >> Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns >> where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. >> One >> of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some >> hints on what to do next? >> >> James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland >> Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland >> William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland >> >> They were Roman Catholic. >> >> Thank you very much! >> >> Jim Gorman >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jim, List Dee can also be Day. I have Day's from Fenoagh who settled in Worcester, MA. not far from Pawtucket where yours came in. You should do a naturalization sometimes if you're lucky a town is named. Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. Helen -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Langley Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 6:19 AM To: Cara_Links; waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise Dee is a name I associate with Dungarvan. I suspect it is derived from Decies an ancient Celtic tribe. Peter. Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, Is it possible they came in 1851? The Library of Congress has an online database of famine era arrivals into the US; the database arrival dates into the US are 1848 - 1851 only. There are lots of Gormans in the database. In case you are not familiar with the database (and the arrival might have been 1851) - it is www.aad.archives.gov . The online database is under the category immigration - Irish famine era arrivals - if I remember correctly. Maureen N I have been researching my family history for a while now and have etermined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the s in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born bout 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. -----Original Message----- rom: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Gorman ent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:47 PM o: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com ubject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise ello list, I have been researching my family history for a while now and have etermined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the s in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born bout 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I ave never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record or their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). hey were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they ame from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, I where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to rovincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his rother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns here Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One f these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some ints on what to do next? James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland ary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland illiam Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland They were Roman Catholic. Thank you very much! Jim Gorman lease double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it ut at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: aterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the uotes in the subject and the body of the message ---- o virus found in this message. hecked by AVG - www.avg.com ersion: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thank you so much for the encouragement, Ray! I misspoke when I said they were in Providence, RI. Actually it was Pawtucket, RI. Many of the early sources say they were involved with ships in one way or another which makes sense for them to be in Pawtucket which was a big port at the time. They then moved to Provincetown, MA which was another big ocean town (The would role over in their graves if they knew the town it was today). The problem I keep finding is that most sources talk about those who came through New York and Boston. My ancestors did not seem to follow that route. I have tracked down all the descendants in the states of both sides. Nobody has a clue as to where they are from. I just tried to search at rootsireland.ie for the marriage but did not find it there either. I feel like I just keep banging my head against the wall with no results. I will go back to the census reports and see who they were living next to at those times. You just never know I guess. Jim On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Ray Marshall <ray.marshall@gmail.com>wrote: > You've gone about it the right wzy, Jim. > > Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find an ancestor in Ireland with > no evidence of where to look. But I brok that rule and found my Scanlon > ancestors in Ballyduff Upper by using Griffiths because, like you, I had > the > surname of the mother and the father (Fox and Scanlon) and found someone in > Ballyduff familiar with local family histories. Unfortunately, he died > soon > after we made contact and I didn't get much more than some photos of the > family homestead. Which, of course, was wonderful. > > If I were you, I would concentrate on other Irish in Providence. Many > people came to the U.S. with someone else, or because someone related or > known to them was already here. And they settled in the same cities. > > See if there is a family history society in Providence and join it and seek > out the members and see where their ancestors came from. Check the census > where your ancestors lived and see who they were neighbors of. Check the > local newspapers and the library and see if anybody has written on the > "Irish of Providence." etc., etc, etc. > > Go over sources that you looked at when you first started out. There may > be > more information there by now. > > It might take a long time, but that is probably the only way that it can > productively be done. And by all means, watch and see what is happening in > Boherboy and the other Irish city you found. More and more Irish are > becoming active in genealogy. Someone might be looking for you. > > Good Luck, and have a Happy St. Patrick's Day! > > > Ray Marshall > Minneapolis > Seeking Scanlon and Fox in Ballyduff Upper, Lismore, Waterford. > Reidy, Aherne, McAuliffe, Hartnett, Loughnane and Flynn in County Kerry > Carney possibly in Waterford or Cork > > -----Original Message----- > From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Gorman > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:47 PM > To: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise > > > Hello list, > > I have been researching my family history for a while now and have > determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the > us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born > about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I > have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth > record > for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). > They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they > came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in > Providence, > RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to > Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his > brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. > > Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns > where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One > of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some > hints on what to do next? > > James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland > Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland > William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland > > They were Roman Catholic. > > Thank you very much! > > Jim Gorman > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11 > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. 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Hello list, I have been researching my family history for a while now and have determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some hints on what to do next? James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland They were Roman Catholic. Thank you very much! Jim Gorman

You've gone about it the right wzy, Jim. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find an ancestor in Ireland with no evidence of where to look. But I brok that rule and found my Scanlon ancestors in Ballyduff Upper by using Griffiths because, like you, I had the surname of the mother and the father (Fox and Scanlon) and found someone in Ballyduff familiar with local family histories. Unfortunately, he died soon after we made contact and I didn't get much more than some photos of the family homestead. Which, of course, was wonderful. If I were you, I would concentrate on other Irish in Providence. Many people came to the U.S. with someone else, or because someone related or known to them was already here. And they settled in the same cities. See if there is a family history society in Providence and join it and seek out the members and see where their ancestors came from. Check the census where your ancestors lived and see who they were neighbors of. Check the local newspapers and the library and see if anybody has written on the "Irish of Providence." etc., etc, etc. Go over sources that you looked at when you first started out. There may be more information there by now. It might take a long time, but that is probably the only way that it can productively be done. And by all means, watch and see what is happening in Boherboy and the other Irish city you found. More and more Irish are becoming active in genealogy. Someone might be looking for you. Good Luck, and have a Happy St. Patrick's Day! Ray Marshall Minneapolis Seeking Scanlon and Fox in Ballyduff Upper, Lismore, Waterford. Reidy, Aherne, McAuliffe, Hartnett, Loughnane and Flynn in County Kerry Carney possibly in Waterford or Cork -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Gorman Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:47 PM To: WATERFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] genealogy advise Hello list, I have been researching my family history for a while now and have determined that my 3rd great-grandfather and grandmother immigrated to the us in about 1853/1854. I assume they came over with a son who was born about 1853. However, some records suggest that he was born in the USA. I have never found William's brith record here. I have found the birth record for their son Patrick in 1855 (actually it is the baby's baptismal record). They were Catholic. We have not been able to find any record of where they came from in Ireland. Jame has a brother William who married in Providence, RI where they lived at the time in 1857. They then moved out to Provincetown, MA for many years. I assume William came over with his brother, James and sister-in-law but not positive. Based on this information I searched the Griffith's Valuation for towns where Gorman and Dee both lived. I came up with a narrow list of two. One of these occurances in in Boherboy, Waterford. Can any one give me some hints on what to do next? James Gorman - b: about 1815 Ireland Mary Dee - b:about 1825 Ireland William Gorman - b: about 1825 Ireland They were Roman Catholic. Thank you very much! Jim Gorman Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1498/3510 - Release Date: 03/16/11

Trying to trace the family of William Lenane / Lennan (and variants) and Mary O’Dwyer. William is recorded as being a farmer or storekeeper in Ballyduff, Co. Waterford (1880). Known children. 1. Mary b. 29 Oct 1839 2. William 3. Michael b. 24 Feb 1855 4. Bridget b. ca 1860 Mary emigrated to California and married there ca 1868. Family name recorded as Lenane. William also emigrated to Calif. but believe this could have been some years later. Michael and Bridget arrived in Auckland, NZ ca 1876, with the family name of Lennan. Any suggestions as to areas to search appreciated. Di.

Not sure about access to all of these and details on what they contain. Seeing lots of academics names on the list, I venture to guess that these people aren't genealogists and though their project is praiseworthy, they need some coaching on what we would like to see. Ray Marshall in Minneapolis, where it is snowing. So there. You thought it was Spring already. http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ http://www.dippam.ac.uk/contact/ About the Project DIPPAM is an online virtual archive of documents and sources relating to the history of Ireland and its migration experience from the 18th to late 20th centures. When complete in Spring 2011, DIPPAM will be a free-to-view resource available to all users with an interest in Irish histry: family, local, national and diasporic. Project Development Team a.. Prof. Peter Gray (Queen's University Belfast) b.. Dr Ricky Rankin (Queen's University Belfast) c.. Gavin Mitchell (Queen's University Belfast) d.. Conail Stewart (Queen's University Belfast) e.. Cormac O.Donnell (Queen's University Belfast) f.. Mark McCalmont (Queen's University Belfast) g.. Dr Johanne Devlin Trew (University of Ulster) h.. Dr Brian Lambkin (Centre for Migration Studies) i.. Dr Paddy Fitzgerald (Centre for Migration Studies) j.. Joe Mullan (Libraries Northern Ireland) k.. Deirdre Nugent (Libraries Northern Ireland) Presentations Click a title to download a PowerPoint presentation. a.. Mapping Belfast migration, Brian Lambkin b.. Belfast and its Rural Migration Hinterland, Paddy Fitzgerald EPPI: Enhanced British Parliamentary Papers on Ireland EPPI is a large database of 15,000 official publications relating to all aspects of Irish affairs during the period of the Union, including bills, reports, commisions of inquiry, and the published census reports. It is a rich source for the social history of Ireland, as well as for statistics relating to population, emigration and other subjects. DIPPAM will offer an enhanced and comprehensive version of the resource previously hosted by the University of Southampthon. IED: Irish Emigration Database The IED is a virtual library of emigration-related primary sources, principally letters to and from emigrants, compiled by the Centre for Migration Studies, Omagh. This extensive collection of more than 33,000 records is drawn from a number of collections, including the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland and many private donors, and is capable of expansion as new records become available. It covers a wide time period, but with a concentration on the period between c.1780 and c.1920. VMR: Voices of Migration and Return VMR comprises over 90 life-narrative interviews conducted with returned and non-returned migrants from Ulster (9-counties) gathered during the course of two studies on contemporary migration (2004-2008). The study participants represent a range of geographic origins within Ulster, class backgrounds and religious denominations.

http://www.iar.ie/Genealogy.html Family History & Genealogical Research Many of the collections listed on this portal will contain information of interest to genealogists and family historians. Items such as rental ledgers, wages and salaries books and employee records can often contain references to people whose lives have otherwise gone largely unrecorded. It must be borne in mind however that considerable time would have to be expanded in searching through these records to find any useful references, as they are often not indexed or accurately dated. Due to limited funding and resources for archival repositories in Ireland, it may not always be possible for staff in the repositories listed in this portal to answer family history queries or give guidance on how to begin a genealogical research. Luckily a number of institutions already offer very comprehensive guides which will aid any researcher with this type of query. The National Archives of Ireland www.nationalarchives.ie provides a Genealogy Service where members of the public can consult a professional genealogist about sources relating to their family history. This service is provided free of charge and is available to the public from Monday to Friday, 10.00–17.00. The Genealogy Service is intended primarily for first-time researchers and visitors but more experienced researchers are also welcome to use it. The website also has a comprehensive guide to using its records to research family history http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/beginning.html Importantly, online Census returns are also available at no charge via the National Archives web site http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/censusrtns.html The National Library of Ireland website has a very useful guide for anyone beginning a family history search. It is available to download at http://www.nli.ie/en/family-history-introduction.aspx An advisory service is also available free of charge to all personal callers to the Library who wish to research their family history in Ireland. For first time researchers this Service is a useful starting point, allowing them the opportunity to discuss their research with experienced Library staff, and ready access to important finding aids. More experienced family historians are also welcome to avail of the Service if they need assistance with on-going research. Both the National Archives of Ireland and the National Library of Ireland websites feature lists of professional genealogists willing to undertake paid research work. Details can be found at http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/researchers.html and http://www.nli.ie/en/commission-research.aspx Other useful sites include: The website of The Genealogical Society of Ireland http://www.familyhistory.ie also offers a series of very useful links for researching in Ireland. The Society of Archivists, Ireland maintains the website www.learnaboutarchives.ie designed to provide a practical and interesting online information service for the general public (but more especially educators and their students) on archival material and archive services in Ireland. It provides an excellent introduction to the rules and procedures in place when accessing and handling archival material. To research your family in their county of origin contact the local archive or local library directly. Contact details are available on this website or on www.learnaboutarchives.ie

More and more Irish documents are coming on line. Don't forget though, Microfilm is still the place to search for individual names of your ancestors. Ray Marshall Minneapolis, where we're hoping for Spring. Welcome to the search page for the Irish Archives Resource This web site contains information about archival collections open for public research in Ireland. Its purpose is to aid researchers in finding collections relevant to their studies. http://www.iar.ie/ Irish Archives Resource Kerry: IE BL/EP/B Bantry Estate Collection 1671 – 1980’s IE BL/EP/G The Grehan Estate Collection 1722 – 1971 IE BL/F/AP Attic Press/Roisin Conroy Collection 1963 - 1991 IE BL/PP/NMC The Nancy McCarthy Collection 1883 – 1990 IE CCCA/U229 O'Flynn Exham Solicitors (1356) c.1500 – 1910 (c.1956) IE CCCA/YTR/PB Youghal Electoral Poll Books and Registry List Feb. 1830 - Aug. 1837 (1846) IE LA P22 Hunt and De Vere Family, 1755-1888 1755-1888 IE UC/DC/ Papers of Daniel Corkery 1908 - 1971 IE CLCCA /PP/1 Roger Casement Papers 1913-1916 Waterford IE CCCA/PR4 Lord Mayor Terence MacSwiney Files March-July 1920 IE CCCA/U229 O'Flynn Exham Solicitors (1356) c.1500 – 1910 (c.1956) IE CCCA/U675 Vanderplas Cork Deeds 1598, 1610-1677, 1694 IE WCA BG DVN Papers of Dungarvan Board of Guardians 1845-1922 IE WCA BG KILTHOM Papers of Kilmacthomas Board of Guardians 1851-1921 IE WCA BG LISM Papers of Lismore Board of Guardians 1843-1923 IE WCA BG WTFD Papers of Waterford Board of Guardians 1848-1922 IE WCA GJ Waterford Grand Jury Collection 1808-1899 IE WCA PP CHLY Papers of Chearnley Family, Salterbridge, County Waterford 1671-1915 IE WCA PP HRYN Papers of Hugh Ryan, Mothel, County Waterford, Ireland 1827-1988 IE WCA WCC 1 Minutes of Waterford County Council 1899-2000 IE WCA WCC GNA Waterford County Council, General Administration Papers 1812-1979 IE WCA WCC PLN TP Waterford County Council Town and Regional Planning Files 1934-1964 6 pages of "Ireland" search results ======================= http://www.thejournal.ie/irelands-archive-collections-go-online-2011-3/ Ireland’s archive collections go online 03/03/11, 1:18 pm 1,188 Views No Comments Share 38 Tweet 28 The long-term hope is that all Irish archives will be fully accessible online Image: PA Images/Arturo Mari AMATEUR HISTORIANS REJOICE: Ireland’s archive collections have found a new central home online. The website www.iar.ie, launched today, allows the public to search a wide range of Irish archives online. Some of the collections featured include the Irish Film Archive, the Guinness family archives, archives from UCC’s Boole Library and a large number of city and county council archives. Brian McGee, archivist at the Cork City and County Archives, told TheJournal.ie that the Irish Archives Resource site links to wherever these archives are digitised and searchable online. However, it also carries detailed descriptions of what is in every archive listed and where it can be accessed physically, if the collection is not online. He said: For now, it is primarily a descriptive site but we see it as the first step on the ladder to digitising entire collections. For example, we have one collection that is 175 boxes’ worth of documents and it has not been possible to put them all up as yet. State-funded archiving in Ireland is a relatively recent phenomenon, only being properly established in the last 30 to 40 years. However, the IAR website brings together a large number of collections from around the country, preserved by a range of organisations. It includes records from current and defunct government and local government agencies, personal contributions, estate records, clubs, societies, trade unions, religious, cultural, sporting and political organisations. One personal archive included is that of Nancy McCarthy, a member of the Cork arts scene who had a romantic relationship with Frank O’Connor when they both worked with the Cork Drama League and later, a lifelong friendship. Her archive, donated to UCC Library by O’Connor’s wife Harriet O ’Donovan-Sheehy, who became executor of McCarthy’s estate, contains fascinating personal correspondence between McCarthy and a host of luminaries such as actors Cyril Cusack and Micheál Mac Liammóir, editor of the New Yorker William Maxwell and sculptor Seamus Murphy. The range of audio, video, written and aural testimony ranges from records of traditional trades, crafts and traditions that were practised in Ireland around 1850 to more contemporary material. Film buffs, for example, will be interested in production material harvested from Jim Sheridan’s Hell’s Kitchen International Ltd production company. The company is still going but some materials from films such as My Left Foot, The Field, Into the West and The Boxer were given to the Irish Film Archive following the closure of Hell’s Kitchen’s Dublin office in 2009. Brian McGee says one of his personal favourite archives referenced on the site is a recent collection of deeds on properties in Cork city dating back to the 16th and 17th centuries. These deeds were found lying in a skip in the Netherlands. Geneaologists will also find much helpful material can be accessed through the site’s guidance. McGee says: We would have lots from local government archives, for example documents from the workhouses’ board of guardians. The important thing about the site is that every collection on it is accessible and available to the public. The long-term hope is that it will one day all be digitised, and some archives are going in that direction already. Limerick city archives have been digitising a lot of their material recently.