Thanks, Terry, they did the same thing my family surname did - they just tweaked the spelling from time to time. Do you know of any other variations...or does anyone else have any? Janet On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Terry Phelan <Tphelan100@aol.com> wrote: > Jan, >  Not a nickname but other variations: >   Phelon >   Phalen >    Phalon > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the >> variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen >> any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? >> >> Janet

Elizabeth Donovan married Peter Farrell at Trinity Without on January 14, 1838. Witnesses John Farrell and Mary Farrell. How would I go about finding the names of Elizabeth and Peter's parents? Thanks~ Eileen

The only nicknameI remember in Waterford area Was "Blaheen" referring ta particular branch of the Whelan family in Carrick-on-Suir area. Referring to the Phelan of Ballybricken are who was a baker.I wonder if he was in any way connected to Phelan's Bakery in Waterford city in the late 1940 1950 The premises were situated opposite the old Woolworths,(now Pennys) On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the > variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen > any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? > > Janet > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? Janet

Jan, Not a nickname but other variations: Phelon Phalen Phalon On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the > variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen > any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? > > Janet > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have never seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken parish register for Waterford, and will hold off offering to look for anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. Any help folk Cara

I think our families are probably related; perhaps cousins.  My great grandfather was: James Phelan born 23 March 1876 and his parents were Thomas Phelan and Ellen Phelan nee Power.  Thomas Phelan was a baker who lived at Trinity Without, Ballybricken on Barrack St. James Phelan married Ellen Morrissey in Oct of 1899 at Holy Trinity Without, Ballybricken. (I have a pic of the church from that time if anyone would like it-let me know).  Ellen Morrissey listed Yellow Road as her residence on her civil marriage record. Her parents were Michael Morrissey and Catherine nee Power. James and Ellen moved to the US an arrived on the Ivernia 28 Apr 1900. )I thought it was interesting that your Phelan's were in Cambridge. The ship manifest lists four people from Waterford-two were James and Ellen and one was a Dan Collins. It always looked to me like the person making the record came down the list with names and then headed back up the list when filling out the rest. Although it states that Dan Collins was headed for Cambridge it said my great grandparents were headed to Yonkers. I still wonder about that. Cambridge is very close to Somerville where my great grandparents settled.)   CARA:  I think it may have been my  message that you saw.  I have only the civil record for the marriage of James Phelan and Ellen Morrissey.  I posted that I would like to have the church record as I hoped it might have mothers names on it.  The civil record lists only fathers. MARTHA:  It might be useful to compare notes about our families. Perhaps we could do that between the two of us and then post any fruitful outcomes on the board rather than use the board for wonderings?  Either way is fine.  I think my James and Ellen probably headed for Cambridge as the ship manifest noted because they had relatives there.    Janet Phelan ________________________________ From: Stringer <stringer@mstringer.net> To: 'Cara_Links' <cara_links@bigpond.com>; waterford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN Hi Cara, I might be the person you're thinking of re PHELAN/WHELAN from Trinity Without, Ballybricken - sent you headstone photos and other data collected when there in 2003. Marriage of my Ggrandparents: Holy Trinity Without Parish (Ballybricken) Church record of the Marriage PHELAN James; Wife:  DALY Mary A.      1 SEP 1866     Witnesses:  GRIFFIN John                FLEMING Catherine     Marriage Register:  M/1843-74          P. 103     Husband's Parents :     Wife's Parents :     Parish:  Ballybricken        Priest:  MCGRATH Thomas     Addresses:  Barrack Street              Barrack Street Civil Registration Record of the marriage HUS.NAME:  PHELAN James            Occupation:  Baker     Hus.Address:  Yellow Road        Condition:    Bachelor      Age : FA     Hus.Parents:  PHELAN John                              Par Occup.:  Miller     Wife Name:    DALY MaryAnne                      Wife Occupation:  Dressmaker     Wi.Address:  Barrack St                                  Condition:      Spinster      Age : FA     Wi. Parents:  DALY John                              Par. Ocup.:    Salter (corrected fm Slater)     Witnesses:  GRIFFIN John; FLEMMING Catherine     Mar.Place:    TRINITY WITHOUT                        Union :        WATERFORD     Officiator:      MCGRATH Thomas                      Mar.Date:    1 SEP 1866     Registrar:                                                  District :      WATERFORD     Reg.Date:                                                  Register :    NO 1 URBAN  :33 Children of James PHELAN/WHELAN / Mary Anne DALY (yes, some baptisms are dated before the births): Note: WHELAN in civil records; PHELAN in church records Born/PHELAN/    Bap/WHELAN        1867 Aug 17    18 Aug 1867    Mary Margaret (my grandmother) 1869 Nov 01    31 Oct 1867    Catherine 1871 Apr 10    12 Mar 1867    Anastasia 1872 Aug 08    26 Jul 1872    Bridget         14 Dec 1873    Julia (baptismal date; birth not found) 1875 Apr 27    02 May 1875    John Now suspect there may be another daughter, Stella, b abt 1878.  Based on half guessing and scribbled family notes, so not certain. ALL of Margaret's records in the US (1895 marriage, Boston, MA - 1952 death, Cambridge, MA) are as WHALEN! No two items have the same age - all younger than 1867. Reallllly would like to find the birth of her parents, particularly her father, James.  I know he was also in the US, but have never found him in the US Censuses (should be in 1900, maybe 1910; have his photo on my wall).  As he married 1866, his birth would be before civil registration. I had Margaret's name and the names of her parents - and suspected Waterford City (do have one photo taken at the quay).  Local research did find the marriage and births/baptisms of the children (flat rate €82).  When I asked about seeking the births of the parents (2003) told it would be DOUBLE the original cost for EACH of the two births. I was told (by a helpful person in the tourist office) of a city registry office (in a medical facility, not far from the Waterford factory).  I was very kindly allowed to look through the original books; found the civil entries, which they did photocopy for me.  I found no deaths of her mother or the children.  Since then I 'may' have found evidence (MA vital records) that some of the sisters were also in Boston/Cambridge, but nothing for certain.  Will save this story for a separate missive. Regards, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA  www.bittonfamilies.com  -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:33 AM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have  never seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken parish register for Waterford, and  will hold off offering to look for anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. Any help folk Cara Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the messageBoston, MA - 1952 death, Cambridge, MA) are as WHALEN! No two items have the same age - all younger than 1867. Reallllly would like to find the birth of her parents, particularly her father, James.  I know he was also in the US, but have never found him in the US Censuses (should be in 1900, maybe 1910; have his photo on my wall).  As he married 1866, his birth would be before civil registration. I had Margaret's name and the names of her parents - and suspected Waterford City (do have one photo taken at the quay).  Local research did find the marriage and births/baptisms of the children (flat rate €82).  When I asked about seeking the births of the parents (2003) told it would be DOUBLE the original cost for EACH of the two births. I was told (by a helpful person in the tourist office) of a city registry office (in a medical facility, not far from the Waterford factory).  I was very kindly allowed to look through the original books; found the civil entries, which they did photocopy for me.  I found no deaths of her mother or the children.  Since then I 'may' have found evidence (MA vital records) that some of the sisters were also in Boston/Cambridge, but nothing for certain.  Will save this story for a separate missive. Regards, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA  www.bittonfamilies.com  -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:33 AM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have  never seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken parish register for Waterford, and  will hold off offering to look for anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. Any help folk Cara Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. 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Oh, and if you were the mean kid in junior high you just can't forget "failin". ________________________________ From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: waterford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] Phelan/Whelan Thanks, Terry, they did the same thing my family surname did - they just tweaked the spelling from time to time. Do you know of any other variations...or does anyone else have any? Janet On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Terry Phelan <Tphelan100@aol.com> wrote: > Jan, >  Not a nickname but other variations: >   Phelon >   Phalen >    Phalon > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the >> variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen >> any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? >> >> Janet Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have seen pretty much every phonic variation.  It is my maiden name and so have had many years of daily experience!  Filen, Felon, etc. ________________________________ From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: waterford@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] Phelan/Whelan Thanks, Terry, they did the same thing my family surname did - they just tweaked the spelling from time to time. Do you know of any other variations...or does anyone else have any? Janet On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Terry Phelan <Tphelan100@aol.com> wrote: > Jan, >  Not a nickname but other variations: >   Phelon >   Phalen >    Phalon > > > On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, There is a chance the Phelan's, in addition to using the >> variation Whelan, may also have used nicknames but I have never seen >> any. Has anyone run across a Phelan nickname? >> >> Janet Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Phelan/Whelan ancestors are connected to the Coffey/Coffee family in Cheekpoint on Waterford harbour, Co Waterford. Also related to Barry family in Cheekpoint. Carolyn Greenwood -----Original Message----- From: Terry Phelan Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:39 PM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Cc: Cara_Links ; <waterford@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN My Phelans came from Ireland but I don't know which county. Terry On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:33 AM, "Carolyn Greenwood and Dr Dominic Wilson" <wildwood@thewarren.net> wrote: > My Phelans also appeared as Whelan, just to confuse matters. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cara_Links > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:33 AM > To: waterford@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN > > I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in > Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. > > Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have never > seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. > > Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does > anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken > parish register for Waterford, and will hold off offering to look for > anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. > > Any help folk > > Cara > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3933 - Release Date: 10/02/11 > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3934 - Release Date: 10/02/11

Hi Cara, I might be the person you're thinking of re PHELAN/WHELAN from Trinity Without, Ballybricken - sent you headstone photos and other data collected when there in 2003. Marriage of my Ggrandparents: Holy Trinity Without Parish (Ballybricken) Church record of the Marriage PHELAN James; Wife: DALY Mary A. 1 SEP 1866 Witnesses: GRIFFIN John FLEMING Catherine Marriage Register: M/1843-74 P. 103 Husband's Parents : Wife's Parents : Parish: Ballybricken Priest: MCGRATH Thomas Addresses: Barrack Street Barrack Street Civil Registration Record of the marriage HUS.NAME: PHELAN James Occupation: Baker Hus.Address: Yellow Road Condition: Bachelor Age : FA Hus.Parents: PHELAN John Par Occup.: Miller Wife Name: DALY MaryAnne Wife Occupation: Dressmaker Wi.Address: Barrack St Condition: Spinster Age : FA Wi. Parents: DALY John Par. Ocup.: Salter (corrected fm Slater) Witnesses: GRIFFIN John; FLEMMING Catherine Mar.Place: TRINITY WITHOUT Union : WATERFORD Officiator: MCGRATH Thomas Mar.Date: 1 SEP 1866 Registrar: District : WATERFORD Reg.Date: Register : NO 1 URBAN :33 Children of James PHELAN/WHELAN / Mary Anne DALY (yes, some baptisms are dated before the births): Note: WHELAN in civil records; PHELAN in church records Born/PHELAN/ Bap/WHELAN 1867 Aug 17 18 Aug 1867 Mary Margaret (my grandmother) 1869 Nov 01 31 Oct 1867 Catherine 1871 Apr 10 12 Mar 1867 Anastasia 1872 Aug 08 26 Jul 1872 Bridget 14 Dec 1873 Julia (baptismal date; birth not found) 1875 Apr 27 02 May 1875 John Now suspect there may be another daughter, Stella, b abt 1878. Based on half guessing and scribbled family notes, so not certain. ALL of Margaret's records in the US (1895 marriage, Boston, MA - 1952 death, Cambridge, MA) are as WHALEN! No two items have the same age - all younger than 1867. Reallllly would like to find the birth of her parents, particularly her father, James. I know he was also in the US, but have never found him in the US Censuses (should be in 1900, maybe 1910; have his photo on my wall). As he married 1866, his birth would be before civil registration. I had Margaret's name and the names of her parents - and suspected Waterford City (do have one photo taken at the quay). Local research did find the marriage and births/baptisms of the children (flat rate €82). When I asked about seeking the births of the parents (2003) told it would be DOUBLE the original cost for EACH of the two births. I was told (by a helpful person in the tourist office) of a city registry office (in a medical facility, not far from the Waterford factory). I was very kindly allowed to look through the original books; found the civil entries, which they did photocopy for me. I found no deaths of her mother or the children. Since then I 'may' have found evidence (MA vital records) that some of the sisters were also in Boston/Cambridge, but nothing for certain. Will save this story for a separate missive. Regards, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA www.bittonfamilies.com -----Original Message----- From: waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:waterford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:33 AM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have never seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken parish register for Waterford, and will hold off offering to look for anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. Any help folk Cara Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Phelans came from Ireland but I don't know which county. Terry On Oct 3, 2011, at 3:33 AM, "Carolyn Greenwood and Dr Dominic Wilson" <wildwood@thewarren.net> wrote: > My Phelans also appeared as Whelan, just to confuse matters. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cara_Links > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:33 AM > To: waterford@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN > > I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in > Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. > > Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have never > seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. > > Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does > anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken > parish register for Waterford, and will hold off offering to look for > anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. > > Any help folk > > Cara > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3933 - Release Date: 10/02/11 > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cara, This is the message currently on the IFHF website: "The Co. Waterford data is in the final stages of testing. It will be live before the end of September 2011. We will send an email to all customers once this is ready. For further information please contact: e-mail mnoc@iol.ie " So far no e-mail saying they are live. Yes, Waterford/Kilkenny/So. Tipp is the ancient home of the Phelan's. Please note, Cara, that Whelan is another form of the name as well. Janet On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Cara_Links <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in > Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. > > Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have  never > seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. > > Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does > anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken > parish register for Waterford, and  will hold off offering to look for > anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. > > Any help folk > > Cara

Hi Janet, The records will come up on the IFHF website and I usually get an e-mail message that they are live on there when it happens. When you subscribe to their site, you can ask for e-mail alerts. Yes, you could change the subject of this one to snipping messages on your reply if you have more questions on that subject. It just makes it easier for people to find information in the archives of the list, or to track incoming messages. Quite often, in a discussion, one subject will lead to another and it is helpful to have that reflected in the subject line. Snipping means highlighting and deleting all parts of a previous message to which you are replying that are not needed for your reply. It shortens the reply and stops information/surnames from being repeated over and over in the archives. You will realize how helpful snipping is when you search in the archives and get the same message up over and over and over because no one snipped off the previous messages. As a quick example if I got a message that read: The sky is blue. Goats can't fly. Janet If I wanted to reply to the sky part, I would "snip" off the goat part like this on my reply: The sky is blue. Janet and change the subject to blue sky: Does that help? Janet On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Janet A Peterson <jpdion932@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Janet;  Please let me know what is done to "snip" messages and checking subject.  Do you mean subject moved forward such as this is now a message about snipping so I can still hit reply but change the subject line entirely?  Also, do you mean cut and paste by snipping? > > > And do you know where the Waterford records will be online?  It was my understanding it would be at Rootsireland.ie. > > Thank you, > Janet

My Phelans also appeared as Whelan, just to confuse matters. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Cara_Links Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:33 AM To: waterford@rootsweb.com Subject: [WATERFORD] PHELAN NAME WATERFORD -BALLYBRICKEN I know I read a mail where a person is researching this family name, in Waterford, but when I went looking could not find it. Now my question is how would you sort all the Phelan's out ? I have never seen so many with that name as I have seen in Waterford. Now what records are to be included from what parishes on Waterford? does anyone have an update on that, because I am about to look at Ballybricken parish register for Waterford, and will hold off offering to look for anyone elses people, if this is to be one of those appearing online. Any help folk Cara Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1410 / Virus Database: 1520/3933 - Release Date: 10/02/11

Hi Janet;  Please let me know what is done to "snip" messages and checking subject.  Do you mean subject moved forward such as this is now a message about snipping so I can still hit reply but change the subject line entirely?  Also, do you mean cut and paste by snipping?  And do you know where the Waterford records will be online?  It was my understanding it would be at Rootsireland.ie. Thank you, Janet ________________________________ From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: waterford@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:18 AM Subject: [WATERFORD] Waterford records on-line Hi Janet & others, There is a slight misunderstanding in that the diocese does not receive any money via the heritage centers. The archbishop set it up this way in order to provide jobs for unemployed people through the old FAS program. It was intended to train many people for jobs in the use of computers, office procedures, etc., but has not worked out quite that way. It does employ 1-2 people in each center and that is that. We can all pray that things will change when this AB retires and we can be on an equal footing with the rest of Ireland. Janet Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet & others, There is a slight misunderstanding in that the diocese does not receive any money via the heritage centers. The archbishop set it up this way in order to provide jobs for unemployed people through the old FAS program. It was intended to train many people for jobs in the use of computers, office procedures, etc., but has not worked out quite that way. It does employ 1-2 people in each center and that is that. We can all pray that things will change when this AB retires and we can be on an equal footing with the rest of Ireland. Janet

Sept. 30th has come and gone; still no records on line. Anyone have a status? Thanks Rick Barrett -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: waterford <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 2, 2011 12:39 am Subject: [WATERFORD] Waterford records on-line Hi Janet & others, There is a slight misunderstanding in that the diocese does not receive any money via the heritage centers. The archbishop set it up this way in order to provide jobs for unemployed people through the old FAS program. It was intended to train many people for jobs in the use of computers, office procedures, etc., but has not worked out quite that way. It does employ 1-2 people in each center and that is that. We can all pray that things will change when this AB retires and we can be on an equal footing with the rest of Ireland. Janet Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looks like they didn't make the Sept. 30th goal of getting the records on line. Goofs! -----Original Message----- From: Sandra J Hawley <sanj@centurytel.net> To: waterford <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 30, 2011 3:59 pm Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] Waterford records online Hi, I just wanted to mention my experience with the Waterford Heritage ociety. As my family lived in the Newcastle Parish area I knew that aterford was where the records would be held. I knew of the Newcastle arish because of a Wisconsin church death record for a brother of my gg randfather which indicated birth places for both of his parents in Co ipperary. I decided to have Waterford do a search for me. I gave them all the nformation I had, and they found baptismal records for 11 of 13 hildren of my ggg grandparents, and a marriage record for one of the hildren that I don't think was correct as they were in the US by that ime, as well as a few other small nuggets of information. The cost was 200 which was a lot, but now I have the actual baptismal dates. My gg randfather's headstone in Wisconsin says that he was born in 1830, owever, his baptismal date was 2 Jan 1823 which means he was born robably in Dec 1822. But with so many records online and coming online, it may be worth it to ait. Waterford looked for the names of the children born with the ames of my ggg grandparents. If any website allows a search that ncludes parents names, that would eliminate most that one would not be f interest. If I had searched for my gg grandfather's birth in 1830 as n the headstone, I might have ignored the 1822 date and never found him. So I have found my ancestors in Ireland and in Wisconsin, but nothing in Y where they lived for probably 5 years plus or minus. All in all, I feel that it was worth it to use Waterford. But would I o it again today, maybe. Good luck, andy On 9/30/2011 1:08 AM, Janet Crawford wrote: Janet, I see that you are quite upset about the records, something which we have been complaining for years now. I don't think the IFHF records are on-line just yet, but maybe a day or two away - at least I haven't received notice yet that they are live. Have I missed something? Since the Archbishop of Cashel& Emly oversees Waterford, we may only see the civil records and the C of I records, but we will have to wait and see. Waterford Heritage maybe does need to be a bit more polite and helpful, but when I finally decided to use them for my own family, they did do a thorough job as far as I can tell and I did ask follow-up questions to clarify a few things. Yes, they are expensive compared to others, but it is still the least expensive and fastest way to get information...although coming over to Ireland is the best way. Janet On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Janet A Peterson<jpdion932@yahoo.com> wrote: > Although it's nice to have a general reference this is still very expensive. or example, I am looking for a Thomas Phelan born 1844 at Carrick On Suir, ipperary. There are more than one. All I can see on this site is the year, ame and county which makes it impossible to search without paying what I onsider huge ppv costs. I think the Diocese of Waterford has a responsibility o make these records more accessible. They sent me a quote for an entire amily search only at approximately 100 euros and I could take it or leave it or erhaps I would prefer to wait for them to be online. I suspected from the tone f the e-mail that something was up and then I saw the costs. Basically what it aid was if you don't like it lady wait till you see what they charge online. I as right. I think it is terrible to charge so much and then be rude. I wrote he Diocese of Waterford and they remained WHOLLY unresponsive. I wrote 2 imes. I think > they sold those BMD records to a PPV site. They could just as easily have ade them available elsewhere for free. They did not. Instead they show up on his site which charges $40.00 to look at 8 records. This is not a solution. very county in the USA wants $40 every time you need a record. The Catholic hurch in this country charges nothing but a donation and that is how it should e. That Diocese is a trustee of records that belong to others. They had no roblem turning them over the any government official who thought they could use hem but they refuse to provide them to the people/families they belong to. lso, beware the researchers the Diocese of Waterford have linked on their ebsite. They claim you pay for the research and may not get anything. This is sual in genealogy but if you have a problem with those people no one takes esponsibility for them. There is no supervision/accountability. I would never llow someone > who wrote the e-mails to me that they did have my bankcard number. > > > So, I keep seeing this information that the Waterford records are available nline. It is less expensive to use the researchers the Diocese of Waterford ave decided they like. I would look at 8 records easily when researching a amily. I have actually wondered if the persons who own this site are the ones aking such a big deal about it. > > > > ________________________________ > From: "cdynan@rcn.com"<cdynan@rcn.com> > To: waterford@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:16 AM > Subject: [WATERFORD] Waterford records online > > Hello listers, > I emailed Waterford herotage site a month agao inquiring about this, nd receievd a reply that indeed, the Waterford records are being prepared for nclusion into the rootsireland site. > Cheryl Dynan > Please double-check subject line& snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message > Please double-check subject line& snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message > Please double-check subject line& snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I have to agree with Janet that the pricing seems unreasonably high. I have 37 matches to my request for baptism records for Ellen Lonergan of Tipperary.