I have a simular query. My baptism of 1903 was in Windgap Waterford, but I know that on the 1901 and 1911 census records the family was living in Castlejohn, Carrick on Suir, Tipperary. Would anyone know of the name of the church in Windgap where the baptism might have taken place. Thanks Julie

Fred, All I have on St. Mary's Clonmel is this: Prior to 1836 the present SS. Peter and Paul's formed part of the old parish of St. Mary's, which embraced not only the town of Clonmel but a considerable country district in the counties of Tipperary and Waterford. When that extensive parish was divided into two, one division retained the mother-church and the ancient name, whilst the other received the name, SS. Peter and Paul's, and obtained possession of a church which had been built in 1810, as an auxiliary to St. Mary's Janet On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Fred Waring <fred.waring@verizon.net> wrote: > I was very excited to find on the rootsireland site the birth of  Anastasia Connery in 1820. > > I was hoping to find a birthplace.also.  But the record indicates her birth  parish/district was St Mary's Clonmel in county Waterford. The civil parish of St Mary's Clonmel is in South Tipperary  But the catholic diocese is in Waterford. > > any idea /suggestions of how to proceed to get a clearer notion of birthplace.

My grandmother, Mary Power Foley, and her family lived in Kilsheelan...The Waterford part...the family is mostly buried in the church yard there on the Tipp. side....Most of them came to Worcester, Ma. except her sister Bridget who married John Phelan ..some of their discendents live near Harney's Cross in Waterford Luke lfoley6771@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> To: waterford <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] Rootsireland success story and seeking advice OK, It spans the border between the 2 counties but most of it is in o. Tipperary and only a little in Co. Waterford. See the first line in Lewis Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=Kilsheelan%2C+Waterford%2C+Ireland&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a and here is a description I found and maybe you can help me make sense of it. http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis-topographical-dictionary-article/Kilsheelan/Waterford thank you, jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim give me the URL on the map you are pulling up please. > > Janet > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > > interesting. so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil > boundaries > > of the county. How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland > > Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland? This is > > confusing to me. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, > >> it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. > >> As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more > >> likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other > >> port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. > >> > >> Janet > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Hello all, > >> > > >> > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my > >> family > >> > to a specific place in Ireland!!!! My educated guess was right. > Thank > >> you > >> > for all your help! > >> > > >> > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & > Mary > >> > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford. I want to discover 2 > more > >> > facts: > >> > > >> > > >> > 1. Where and when were they married. I imagine it was a year or so > >> > before the birth of son William in June of 1853. The marriage > record > >> are > >> > not up yet for Waterford though :(. Any suggestions? > >> > 2. How were they able to come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. > >> > Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County? They made the > >> voyage > >> > between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son. So I > >> have a > >> > narrow time frame. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Jim Gorman > >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > > >> > >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> > >> ------------------------------------- > >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check > it > >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. 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Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at ttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- he Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out t: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ f you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Yes, we do owe them. The diaspora has always been looked upon as a defeat for the Irish caused by the Famine [An Gorta Mor or The Great Hunger]. However, when one looks at what the Irish have done throughout the world after they emigrated, it is actually one of the greatest successes, looking at all the Irish who attained greatness outside of Ireland. Enda Kenny wants to make 2012 the year of The Gathering, when the Irish return to the homeland to meet their relatives. Janet On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > very cool to know.  so it is likely that he moved all around the surrounding > area.  we really owe our irish ancestors a dept of gratitude for making the > big leap to america. > > jim >

I was very excited to find on the rootsireland site the birth of Anastasia Connery in 1820. I was hoping to find a birthplace.also. But the record indicates her birth parish/district was St Mary's Clonmel in county Waterford. The civil parish of St Mary's Clonmel is in South Tipperary But the catholic diocese is in Waterford. any idea /suggestions of how to proceed to get a clearer notion of birthplace.

very cool to know. so it is likely that he moved all around the surrounding area. we really owe our irish ancestors a dept of gratitude for making the big leap to america. jim On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > James, the average Irishman in the 1800's got around [if not actually > moved around] far more than one might think. Often land leases were > only for one year and the farmer had to find a new and often better > place to lease for the next year. The farmers also attended cattle > marts all over the area. > > Janet > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:27 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > wrote: > > thanks for the suggestion. i will do that. > > > > did the average irishman move around much within a county? > > > > jim > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Jim, It will probably be helpful if you also join the CoTipperary list > as > >> well: > >> > >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/CoTipperary.html > >> > >> And you probably should search the archives on that list. > >> > >> Janet > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:29 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > thank you that is what i thought it was saying. interesting fact. we > >> have > >> > a village nearby in Massachusetts that is 1/2 in town and 1/2 in the > >> other. > >> > > >> > thank you, > >> > > >> > jim > >> > >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> > >> ------------------------------------- > >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check > it > >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, Please don't assume that if some [a few] RC records are showing up on the IFHF site that ALL will be there. I don't know yet why some are appearing but it might go live for only a couple of parishes. We have to wait and see and the page that affirms the sources is not yet available. Janet

James, the average Irishman in the 1800's got around [if not actually moved around] far more than one might think. Often land leases were only for one year and the farmer had to find a new and often better place to lease for the next year. The farmers also attended cattle marts all over the area. Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:27 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > thanks for the suggestion.  i will do that. > > did the average irishman move around much within a county? > > jim > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jim, It will probably be helpful if you also join the CoTipperary list as >> well: >> >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/CoTipperary.html >> >> And you probably should search the archives on that list. >> >> Janet >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:29 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > thank you that is what i thought it was saying.  interesting fact.  we >> have >> > a village nearby in Massachusetts that is 1/2 in town and 1/2 in the >> other. >> > >> > thank you, >> > >> > jim >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it >> out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim, It will probably be helpful if you also join the CoTipperary list as well: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/CoTipperary.html And you probably should search the archives on that list. Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:29 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > thank you that is what i thought it was saying.  interesting fact.  we have > a village nearby in Massachusetts that is 1/2 in town and 1/2 in the other. > > thank you, > > jim

OK, It spans the border between the 2 counties but most of it is in Co. Tipperary and only a little in Co. Waterford. See the first line in Lewis Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.google.com/search?q=Kilsheelan%2C+Waterford%2C+Ireland&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > and here is a description I found and maybe you can help me make sense of > it. > http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis-topographical-dictionary-article/Kilsheelan/Waterford > > thank you, > > jim > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jim give me the URL on the map you are pulling up please. >> >> Janet >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: >> > interesting.  so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil >> boundaries >> > of the county.  How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland >> > Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland?  This is >> > confusing to me. >> > >> > Jim >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, >> >> it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. >> >> As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more >> >> likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other >> >> port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. >> >> >> >> Janet >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hello all, >> >> > >> >> > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my >> >> family >> >> > to a specific place in Ireland!!!!  My educated guess was right. >>  Thank >> >> you >> >> > for all your help! >> >> > >> >> > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & >> Mary >> >> > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford.  I want to discover 2 >> more >> >> > facts: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >   1. Where and when were they married.  I imagine it was a year or so >> >> >   before the birth of son William in June of 1853.  The marriage >> record >> >> are >> >> >   not up yet for Waterford though :(.  Any suggestions? >> >> >   2. How were they able to  come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. >> >> >   Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County?  They made the >> >> voyage >> >> >   between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son.  So I >> >> have a >> >> >   narrow time frame. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks, >> >> > >> >> > Jim Gorman >> >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> > >> >> >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check >> it >> >> out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> > >> > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> > >> > ------------------------------------- >> > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it >> out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> > If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it >> out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Terry! Thank you so much!! This is very welcome news.... I recall reading in one of the emails prior to the Waterford records actually going on line that the RC records would NOT be included..I was crestfallen at that news...but then I found the record of Michael O'Sullivan (spelled Sulliven in the record) and it just seems too close to be a coincidence... so the fact that you found your relatives in pre 1864 records and that they were also Catholic is welcome news... and certainly makes one believe that the Catholic records are indeed part of the on line collection now available. Thanks Rick Barrett -----Original Message----- From: Terry Phelan <Tphelan100@aol.com> To: waterford <waterford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 4:21 pm Subject: Re: [WATERFORD] found records on site, Murphy, McGrath and Uniacke Rick, All my Catholic relatives' baptism info is on this site. The denomination is left blank and I don't know why. So, these records are included. Terry On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:51 PM, rbarr33741@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > > I went on http://waterford.rootsireland.ie/ and found the record pasted below... I am wondering if the Waterford Heritage Center posted the Roman Catholic records after all? or is this a Church of Ireland record? or perhaps a civil record relative to a Roman catholic notwithstanding it was 1819? and therefore civil registration not required prior to 1864? > > > I'd appreciate any advice. > > > The Michael O'Sullivan whom I am researching was Roman Catholic but this record is so close in terms of names of parents and age of Michel., etc., I am hoping it may, in fact, be my guy ... It's probably wishful thinking but I thought I'd throw it out there... > > > > > Thanks so much, > > > Rick Barrett > Clifton, Virginia > USA > > > > > Church Baptism Record > > > Name: > Michael Sullevan > Date of Baptism/Birth: > 30-May-1819 > > Address: > Dunmore > Parish/District: > KILLEA > > Gender: > > County > Co. Waterford > > > > Denomination: > > > > > Father: > Jeremiah Sullevan > Mother: > Mary Langridge > > Occupation: > > > > > > Sponsor 1 / > Informant 1: > Jeremiah Sullevan > Sponsor 2 / > Informant 2: > Brigid Lonergan > > > > Notes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford ------------------------------------- The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim give me the URL on the map you are pulling up please. Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > interesting.  so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil boundaries > of the county.  How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland > Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland?  This is > confusing to me. > > Jim > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, >> it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. >> As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more >> likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other >> port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. >> >> Janet >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my >> family >> > to a specific place in Ireland!!!!  My educated guess was right.  Thank >> you >> > for all your help! >> > >> > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & Mary >> > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford.  I want to discover 2 more >> > facts: >> > >> > >> >   1. Where and when were they married.  I imagine it was a year or so >> >   before the birth of son William in June of 1853.  The marriage record >> are >> >   not up yet for Waterford though :(.  Any suggestions? >> >   2. How were they able to  come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. >> >   Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County?  They made the >> voyage >> >   between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son.  So I >> have a >> >   narrow time frame. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Jim Gorman >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> > >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it >> out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption.  Check it out at:  http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact:  Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. Janet On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my family > to a specific place in Ireland!!!!  My educated guess was right.  Thank you > for all your help! > > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & Mary > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford.  I want to discover 2 more > facts: > > >   1. Where and when were they married.  I imagine it was a year or so >   before the birth of son William in June of 1853.  The marriage record are >   not up yet for Waterford though :(.  Any suggestions? >   2. How were they able to  come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. >   Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County?  They made the voyage >   between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son.  So I have a >   narrow time frame. > > Thanks, > > Jim Gorman > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. >

Rick, All my Catholic relatives' baptism info is on this site. The denomination is left blank and I don't know why. So, these records are included. Terry On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:51 PM, rbarr33741@aol.com wrote: > Hi Everyone: > > > I went on http://waterford.rootsireland.ie/ and found the record pasted below... I am wondering if the Waterford Heritage Center posted the Roman Catholic records after all? or is this a Church of Ireland record? or perhaps a civil record relative to a Roman catholic notwithstanding it was 1819? and therefore civil registration not required prior to 1864? > > > I'd appreciate any advice. > > > The Michael O'Sullivan whom I am researching was Roman Catholic but this record is so close in terms of names of parents and age of Michel., etc., I am hoping it may, in fact, be my guy ... It's probably wishful thinking but I thought I'd throw it out there... > > > > > Thanks so much, > > > Rick Barrett > Clifton, Virginia > USA > > > > > Church Baptism Record > > > Name: > Michael Sullevan > Date of Baptism/Birth: > 30-May-1819 > > Address: > Dunmore > Parish/District: > KILLEA > > Gender: > > County > Co. Waterford > > > > Denomination: > > > > > Father: > Jeremiah Sullevan > Mother: > Mary Langridge > > Occupation: > > > > > > Sponsor 1 / > Informant 1: > Jeremiah Sullevan > Sponsor 2 / > Informant 2: > Brigid Lonergan > > > > Notes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

thanks for the suggestion. i will do that. did the average irishman move around much within a county? jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim, It will probably be helpful if you also join the CoTipperary list as > well: > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/CoTipperary.html > > And you probably should search the archives on that list. > > Janet > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:29 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > wrote: > > thank you that is what i thought it was saying. interesting fact. we > have > > a village nearby in Massachusetts that is 1/2 in town and 1/2 in the > other. > > > > thank you, > > > > jim > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

thank you that is what i thought it was saying. interesting fact. we have a village nearby in Massachusetts that is 1/2 in town and 1/2 in the other. thank you, jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, It spans the border between the 2 counties but most of it is in > Co. Tipperary and only a little in Co. Waterford. > > See the first line in Lewis > > Janet > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Kilsheelan%2C+Waterford%2C+Ireland&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > > > and here is a description I found and maybe you can help me make sense of > > it. > > > http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis-topographical-dictionary-article/Kilsheelan/Waterford > > > > thank you, > > > > jim > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Jim give me the URL on the map you are pulling up please. > >> > >> Janet > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > interesting. so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil > >> boundaries > >> > of the county. How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland > >> > Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland? This is > >> > confusing to me. > >> > > >> > Jim > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, > >> >> it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. > >> >> As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more > >> >> likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other > >> >> port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. > >> >> > >> >> Janet > >> >> > >> >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> >> > Hello all, > >> >> > > >> >> > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link > my > >> >> family > >> >> > to a specific place in Ireland!!!! My educated guess was right. > >> Thank > >> >> you > >> >> > for all your help! > >> >> > > >> >> > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & > >> Mary > >> >> > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford. I want to discover 2 > >> more > >> >> > facts: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. Where and when were they married. I imagine it was a year or > so > >> >> > before the birth of son William in June of 1853. The marriage > >> record > >> >> are > >> >> > not up yet for Waterford though :(. Any suggestions? > >> >> > 2. How were they able to come over to Pawtucket, RI from > Waterford. > >> >> > Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County? They made > the > >> >> voyage > >> >> > between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son. > So I > >> >> have a > >> >> > narrow time frame. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks, > >> >> > > >> >> > Jim Gorman > >> >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when > replying. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> >> > >> >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> >> > >> >> ------------------------------------- > >> >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. > Check > >> it > >> >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> >> ------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> >> > >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > > >> > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------- > >> > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check > it > >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> > >> ------------------------------------- > >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check > it > >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.google.com/search?q=Kilsheelan%2C+Waterford%2C+Ireland&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a and here is a description I found and maybe you can help me make sense of it. http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis-topographical-dictionary-article/Kilsheelan/Waterford thank you, jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim give me the URL on the map you are pulling up please. > > Janet > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:41 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > > interesting. so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil > boundaries > > of the county. How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland > > Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland? This is > > confusing to me. > > > > Jim > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, > >> it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. > >> As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more > >> likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other > >> port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. > >> > >> Janet > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > Hello all, > >> > > >> > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my > >> family > >> > to a specific place in Ireland!!!! My educated guess was right. > Thank > >> you > >> > for all your help! > >> > > >> > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & > Mary > >> > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford. I want to discover 2 > more > >> > facts: > >> > > >> > > >> > 1. Where and when were they married. I imagine it was a year or so > >> > before the birth of son William in June of 1853. The marriage > record > >> are > >> > not up yet for Waterford though :(. Any suggestions? > >> > 2. How were they able to come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. > >> > Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County? They made the > >> voyage > >> > between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son. So I > >> have a > >> > narrow time frame. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Jim Gorman > >> > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > > >> > >> Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > >> > >> Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > >> > >> ------------------------------------- > >> The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check > it > >> out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > >> If you would like to take this site over, contact: > >> Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

interesting. so the diocese of waterford must overlap the civil boundaries of the county. How come when I type in Kilsheelan, Waterford, Ireland Google maps comes up with Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford, Ireland? This is confusing to me. Jim On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> wrote: > Jim, Although Kilsheelan appears in the Waterford & Lismore records, > it is not in Co. Waterford, but in Co. Tipperary. > As to departure ports, it might have been Waterford City, but more > likely Cobh [Cove], Co. Cork, or New Ross, Co. Wexford...or any other > port in Ireland, but those are the most likely. > > Janet > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM, James Gorman <jms.gorman@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my > family > > to a specific place in Ireland!!!! My educated guess was right. Thank > you > > for all your help! > > > > Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & Mary > > (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford. I want to discover 2 more > > facts: > > > > > > 1. Where and when were they married. I imagine it was a year or so > > before the birth of son William in June of 1853. The marriage record > are > > not up yet for Waterford though :(. Any suggestions? > > 2. How were they able to come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. > > Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County? They made the > voyage > > between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son. So I > have a > > narrow time frame. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim Gorman > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > > > Please double-check subject line & snip your messages when replying. > > Please search the Archives of this list for your surnames at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=waterford > > ------------------------------------- > The Ireland GenWeb County Waterford website is up for adoption. Check it > out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/ > If you would like to take this site over, contact: > Waterford-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WATERFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello all, I just used waterford.rootsireland.ie and was finally able to link my family to a specific place in Ireland!!!! My educated guess was right. Thank you for all your help! Now that I have the baptismal record for the first child of James & Mary (Dee) Gorman from Kilsheelan, Co. Waterford. I want to discover 2 more facts: 1. Where and when were they married. I imagine it was a year or so before the birth of son William in June of 1853. The marriage record are not up yet for Waterford though :(. Any suggestions? 2. How were they able to come over to Pawtucket, RI from Waterford. Anyone know of passenger lists from Waterford County? They made the voyage between june 1853 and aug 1855 (the birth of their second son. So I have a narrow time frame. Thanks, Jim Gorman

Hi Everyone: I went on http://waterford.rootsireland.ie/ and found the record pasted below... I am wondering if the Waterford Heritage Center posted the Roman Catholic records after all? or is this a Church of Ireland record? or perhaps a civil record relative to a Roman catholic notwithstanding it was 1819? and therefore civil registration not required prior to 1864? I'd appreciate any advice. The Michael O'Sullivan whom I am researching was Roman Catholic but this record is so close in terms of names of parents and age of Michel., etc., I am hoping it may, in fact, be my guy ... It's probably wishful thinking but I thought I'd throw it out there... Thanks so much, Rick Barrett Clifton, Virginia USA Church Baptism Record Name: Michael Sullevan Date of Baptism/Birth: 30-May-1819 Address: Dunmore Parish/District: KILLEA Gender: County Co. Waterford Denomination: Father: Jeremiah Sullevan Mother: Mary Langridge Occupation: Sponsor 1 / Informant 1: Jeremiah Sullevan Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Brigid Lonergan Notes: