Over the weekend, I attended GenTech, a national (US) genealogy conference for professional and amatuer genealogists. One session I attended was about Irish research, titled " Digitisation of Irish Records: The Current State of Play." The speaker was Brian Donovan of Eneclann, Ltd. I thought I would post about the lecture, as many people should find it helpful and interesting. I will post from my notes. I had to write fast and I did have some difficulty in understanding Brian with his Irish accent. I certainly could have made mistakes. However, you can order a tape of his lecture from Repeat Performance, www.audiotapes.com. Please don't email me to ask questions. I probably can't answer them. For more information, do a search or go to the eneclann.ie website. I do not have any connection with any of these websites, businesses or entities. I guess you could call this my "giving back." I have been very lucky in my Irish research. Brian first gave us some background information on genealogy research in Ireland, particular to digitisation. First of all, it's a slow process. This is because not many people in Ireland are involved with genealogy. Second, there is a lack of interest due to the Irish being more concerned with house and property research as opposed to genealogical research. The third is, "inadequate state funding." In the 1980s and 1990s, the Irish government provided monies to train people in computer skills. The money wasn't really for genealogy, which is a business. It was for computer training. In Ireland, they don't know how to turn genealogy into a business. But Brian knows! LOL. At the time of this funding and training, people needed jobs. Today, Ireland has a low unemployment rate. The original goal, was to make 26 million records available. Only 17 million records were available by 2003. The fourth reason, is the destruction of records and we all know about that! Brian then told us about the digitazation projects that have been completed or are ongoing. He provided us with a list of websites as he explained. Irish Genealogical Project www.irishgenealogy.ie These are the Heritage Centers. They have parish registers, civil records, Griffiths, Tithes and census record databases. General Register Office www.goireland.ie The GRO has the civil registers. The GRO relocated to County Roscommon to provide full time jobs. They started to work on the printed indexes, then stopped the project in 2001. I think there were some problems but I did not catch the whole story. I think they are now trying to work on a web based pay per view, with 2005 as their target date. However, I would not hold my breath on that. National Archives www.nationalarchives.ie Together, the NA of Ireland and PRONI (Northern Ireland) are working on a digitization program of the 1901 and 1911 censuses. There is no time frame for this right now, so don't hold your breath on this one either. Late last year, the National Archives and Eneclann put out a new CD-Rom, called "Counties in Time." It gives a history of the counties and samples of documents that are available for research. If you go to the Eneclann website, you will find more information. National Library www.irishorigins.com Yes I know this is not the website for the National Library of Ireland, but they are working with Irish Origins on the definitive verision of Griffiths Valuation. Valuation Office Records www.valoff.ie A new project by the Valuation Office and Eneclann will digitize the Cancelled Volumes from 1850 to 1920 and the Griffiths Maps, both the 6 inch and the town plans. This will take years and is a very expensive project. You can also check out PRONI and the Wills Project, www.proni.gov.uk; the Irish Wills Project, www.eneclann.ie/publications-3.asp; and the Memorial Inscriptions Project, www.eneclann.ie/publications-6.asp Brian also gave us a list of future digitization plans: Irish Ancestor Journal British Immigration Records 1858-1870 Memorials of the Dead - Wexford and Wicklow Calendars of Wills and Administrations 1858-1922 Catholic Qualification Rolls 1775-1801 Loyalist Petition 1848 Petition for Repeal of Union 1848 Freeholders and Voters Lists 1727-1832 Militia and Yeomanny Records 1750-1850 Irish Jewish Records 1820-1960 Brian went on to say that there are lots of Irish records but there are very few indexes. He said that what is being digitized has already been published or indexed. He said we should utilize the Registry of Deeds, www.landregistry.ie. He also said the National Archives has lots of information but with out indexes or finding aids, there are many records that go ignored by genealogists. He provided a list of records that are not researched much. Valuation Office Field and Home Books 1838 Outrage Reports 1835-1852 - letters written to Dublin Castle. These are organized by county. Relief Commission Papers 1845-1847 -- these are about the famine Convict Reference Files - 1836-1922 Petty Sessions -- This is the lowest level of the courts in Ireland. Chancery Bills Fenian Files and Photographs 1862-1870 The session lasted an hour with a short period of time for questions. I was able to ask one. I mentioned that I had been reading about some of the heritage centers closing and asked if this had something to do with the government funding. The answer is yes. Brian said that the Irish government provided 25 million for computer training. The money was not spent on genealogy. But the government thought they would make money on genealogy. (The heritage centers were started by volunteers. I do not know who runs them now.) The government has given up funding the heritage centers. So, some are closing. Brian suggested people write to the Irish government and tell them we have money to spend on genealogy and that we want records to be made available. He said to contact the Irish Prime Minister and he gave his name and address! I did not get it all down, but if you do a search, I'm sure you will find it. He also suggested we write our own political representatives. In a nutshell, genealogy is a business. Some have figured that out, some haven't. There are those who still think that genealogy is free, but when you consider the time spent on research, the photocopies, the transcribing, the indexing, etc., you can surely see that there is alot involved. If we want something, we are going to have to work/pay for it. Irish records are no exception. This doesn't mean you shouldn't volunteer for anything, in fact, Brian commented that we genealogists can help. I think it's great that there are products to buy. Obviously, Brian is making a living. He has a genealogy business. Many of the speakers at the conference make a living out of genealogy, through writing books, public speaking, teaching classes and digitizing records. Obviously, genealogy has come a long way. Digitization is the big thing now, but look at what we have available to us today. You have my permission to forward my post to other Irish email lists. I subscribe to quite a few and will send out my post to them today. Again, I ask you to please not email me with questions. Go to the Eneclann site, do a search or visit the other URLs I gave you. I'm sure I have missed some information. Go seek and you shall find more. One more thing, I asked Brian, while I was browsing at his vendor table, how to find the papers for the Earl of Bessborough. He was a land owner in County Carlow. Brian said that most estate papers are in England, so if you are looking for information on an English land owner, check the National Archives of England and the Historical Manuscripts Commission site or perhaps the private papers of the National Library in Ireland. www.nationalarchives.gov. uk/ Debbie

anne, your advice sounds reasonable -- is garranbaun a townland or an area or a parrish? i am pretty sure what ever it is, the Flahavans lived in Dungarvan proper. There is some talk that they lived next to a RC church in exchange for caretaking duties, although i think that may have been a later generation of the family. thanks. heidi [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Phelan" <[email protected]> To: "Heidi Ford" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [WAT] Garranbawn in Dungarvan; Flahavan/Curran > It might be Garranbaun meaning The WHITE GROVE .also may be spelt as > Garranbane .Try THESe . It is I think in the Parish of Kilgobnet .Anne in Co > Waterford .Any more questions ??????? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Ford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 12:00 AM > Subject: [WAT] Garranbawn in Dungarvan; Flahavan/Curran > > > > Hope someone out there can help me -- > > > > I have two ancestors who appear in the death registry listed by the > > Waterford County Library -- Patrick Flahavan (d. 1888) and Bridget Curran > > (d. 1876). Bridget's daughter Johanna married a John Flahavan so it is > > likely Patrick and Bridget are related by marriage. > > > > At any rate, the residence on both deaths is listed as being "Garranbawn" > in > > the district and union of Dungarvan. I have already looked on > Seanruad.com > > for "Garranbawn" as a townland and no luck. Can anyone suggest an > > alternative spelling or a suggestion for where I might find "Garranbawn"? > I > > am scratching my head. It doesn't even come up on "google". > > > > thanks, > > heidi ford > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > ** Looking for a certain place in Ireland? Use the IreAtlas Townland > Database at http://www.seanruad.com ** > > > > >

Hope someone out there can help me -- I have two ancestors who appear in the death registry listed by the Waterford County Library -- Patrick Flahavan (d. 1888) and Bridget Curran (d. 1876). Bridget's daughter Johanna married a John Flahavan so it is likely Patrick and Bridget are related by marriage. At any rate, the residence on both deaths is listed as being "Garranbawn" in the district and union of Dungarvan. I have already looked on Seanruad.com for "Garranbawn" as a townland and no luck. Can anyone suggest an alternative spelling or a suggestion for where I might find "Garranbawn"? I am scratching my head. It doesn't even come up on "google". thanks, heidi ford [email protected]

Hi, I've been researching these families in Kilrossanty Parish and would appreciate some help filling in blanks. David CUNNINGHAM (1812-1899) from Boolatin, married Bridget POWER (1823-1899) possibly from Garranmillon, about 1850 (I wish I had the exact marriage date). Their 7 children were: Patrick (1850-1924) who married Hanorah WHELAN/PHELAN (1852-?1927) , on Jan 29, 1874, she was possibly from Graigue - her father was Thomas WHELAN/PHELAN and I don't know anything about him or his wife. The marriage came about because Mr. POWER, the brother of Patrick Cunningham's mother, Bridget POWER C., died in Garranmillon, and his widow brought her niece, Hanorah Whelan, to Garranmillon to work the farm and Mr. Power's sister Bridget arranged for her son Patrick to marry Hanorah so they settled in Garranmillon; David (1854-1936) who married Johanna WALSH (1865-1936); Hanorah (1854-1887) who married Mr. FOLEY; Thomas (1863-1890) , Bridget (1865-1899) and 2 other sisters whose names I don't know. The children of the Patrick Cunningham-Hanorah Whelan union were David (1874-1958) who married Hanorah POWER (1873-1950), Thomas (1878-1963) who married Bridget POWER (1876-1957), John (1878-1954) who married Agnes Mary QUINN HARNEY of Knockyelan and emigrated to Canada, Richard (1879-1933), Bridget (1882-?), Matthew (1883-1889), Edmond (1884-?) who emigrated to Massachusetts and worked in a textile mill, Mary (1887-1952), and Patrick (1895-?). I am interested to have any information about these families, or about who were the parents of David Cunningham and Thomas Whelan from around 1800, or about life in Kilrossanty during these periods. I would like to know more about the landowners, Catherine Isabella Osborne and John Palliser and when it became possible for tenants to buy their farms. I will be very grateful for any help, and hope that my research will help someone else. Irishisa

That would have to be one of the most exciting webpages for my research of the WALSH/O'TOOLE/PRENDERGAST families in Waterford. Just as well its the weekend here in New Zealand! Thanks and regards Jane Campbell Auckland, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Whelan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [WAT] seeking Dungarvan death info > Hi > The site in question is www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie The death registers > are powered by iPAC software and some of the search functionality isn't > fantastic but overall it is a great resource. Other things that can be > found on the Waterford County Library site include - > > Library Catalogue > The Library Catalogue is the main point of access to resources held by > Waterford County Library. You can search and locate books, journals, maps, > photographs, computer files and CD's. Catalogue records provide information > about the item searched for, indicating what it contains and where it is > located. > > Trade Directories > Historical Trade Directories listing the business and professional people > of an area are a core resource for local historians and genealogists. > > Death Registers > Records of all deaths registered in Co. Waterford from January 1st 1864 > until December 31st 1901. > > The Great War : Waterford Dead > A database of Waterford people who died in World War One > > Griffith's Valuation > Where people lived and what property they held in County Waterford, 1848 - > 1864. > > Grave Memorials > Inscriptions from the headstones of County Waterford graveyards. (This > isn't a complete record) > > New material is constantly being added to the web site and database. If > there is anything you would like to see included on the site please contact > the library staff they are more than happy to hear suggestions. Yours > Willie Whelan Dungarvan Museum & Deise Design > > > At 19:14 16/01/2004 -0800, you wrote: > > >About a year ago, someone shared a site with a database of death records > >in Dungarvan area. The site may have covered the entire county? Could > >someone please refresh my memory? I lost the bookmark. Thank you > > Deise Design - Web Site Design & Internet Consultancy > www.deisedesign.com > 086 2748377 > > > > > ==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > ** Remember! No flames, chain letters, virus warnings or other off topic posts should be sent to the Waterford list ** > >

Hi The site in question is www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie The death registers are powered by iPAC software and some of the search functionality isn't fantastic but overall it is a great resource. Other things that can be found on the Waterford County Library site include - Library Catalogue The Library Catalogue is the main point of access to resources held by Waterford County Library. You can search and locate books, journals, maps, photographs, computer files and CD's. Catalogue records provide information about the item searched for, indicating what it contains and where it is located. Trade Directories Historical Trade Directories listing the business and professional people of an area are a core resource for local historians and genealogists. Death Registers Records of all deaths registered in Co. Waterford from January 1st 1864 until December 31st 1901. The Great War : Waterford Dead A database of Waterford people who died in World War One Griffith's Valuation Where people lived and what property they held in County Waterford, 1848 - 1864. Grave Memorials Inscriptions from the headstones of County Waterford graveyards. (This isn't a complete record) New material is constantly being added to the web site and database. If there is anything you would like to see included on the site please contact the library staff they are more than happy to hear suggestions. Yours Willie Whelan Dungarvan Museum & Deise Design At 19:14 16/01/2004 -0800, you wrote: >About a year ago, someone shared a site with a database of death records >in Dungarvan area. The site may have covered the entire county? Could >someone please refresh my memory? I lost the bookmark. Thank you Deise Design - Web Site Design & Internet Consultancy www.deisedesign.com 086 2748377

About a year ago, someone shared a site with a database of death records in Dungarvan area. The site may have covered the entire county? Could someone please refresh my memory? I lost the bookmark. Thank you --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes

Hi Carol, This may be completely unrelated but you may be interested to know there was a very large Bransfield family living next door to my Wexford ancestors in a place called Crocker's Cove, Newfoundland. They were captains and the names are almost identical to the one's you listed. They fished for cod, dried and salted it and then traded it in the West Indies, Jamaica picking up molasses and fruits to bring to Spain and Portugal for oil and salt then heading north to ports in southern Ireland. The majority of the Irish in Newfoundland came from within a 30 mile radius of Waterford city. I have a record of a John Bransfield married to a Grace Rose, 1817 RC Harbor Grace, the name English is very common there but I have not seen England before. Also an 1825 marriage of a Margaret Bransfield to a James L. Prendergast. A Richard Bransfield married an Ann Ashe 1832 ( I believe this is the son of an earlier Capt. Richard---though all the sons were captains) Also a John Bransfield married to Anastasis Meany 1842. A David Bransfield married to Catherine Lynch 1835; and I have a James Bransfield married to one of my Mary Kennedy's circa 1845 (the marriage records burned but I have all of this couples children) Here is the link to my family website and how my Waterford and Wexford (Tipperary too) folks got to Newfoundland; by the late 1800s many of these families having grown so large and with the decline of the fishery moved on to the US. At the end of the story is a map of the Crocker's Cove plantations on it you will see the land of John and Richard Bransfield 1804 next door to my ggggggf Edward Kennedy and his 3 sons Nicholas, Terence and William 1796. http://www.ancestraldigs.com/CarbonearKennedys.htm I will soon have the parish records for this area transcribed and available on-line. Any Waterford name you can imagine can be found there...if your folks came to the US before Ellis there is a good chance they came by way of Newfoundland, or lower Canada. It might also help explain how your Doctor got to Jamaica. Here are the Bransfield Captains.followed by ship name...the first four numbers are year the ship was registered at St. John's Newfoundland...the last three are the reg. # (you can see Richard definitely had a thing for MARY) Bransfield, Charles Abeona 18590102 Bransfield, E. Amanda 1879094 Bransfield, Edward Sterling Clipper 1864072 Bransfield, ino Amanda 1879094 Bransfield, John Alice 1829043 Bransfield, John Fair Cambrian 1839019 Bransfield, John Neptune 18410108 Bransfield, John Norma 1857040 Bransfield, John William 1847004 Bransfield, John William 1845031 Bransfield, R. Mary 1844139 Bransfield, Richard Caledonia 1847053 Bransfield, Richard Echo 1844158 Bransfield, Richard Industry 1820034 Bransfield, Richard Mary 1838050 Bransfield, Richard Mary 1845040 Bransfield, Richard Mary 1832084 Bransfield, Richard Mary 18380117 Bransfield, Richard Jr. Industry 1825166 Bransfield, Richard Sr. Hunter 1825167 This Captain's Index is from the Maritime History Archive/Memorial University Newfoundland http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/captains/index.php I also suggest you search Newfoundland's Grand Banks site www.ngb.chebucto.org/ there is a search engine at the bottom of the page There is another site www.genweb.ca there is no search engine specific for this site so when you get to the Home Page you will have to USE GOOGLE to enter your search term and choose "search within this site" You may think your ancestors came straight to the States but the passage was cheaper, the journey shorter, and perhaps less daunting than landing in a big city like New York. I hope this information is helpful to someone. HAPPY HUNTING Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: [WAT] Re: Bransfield > Hi Sheila , > Not sure if we have been in contact before as I am researching Bransfield . > My ggg grandmothers maiden name was Bransfield . > > Mary Bransfield of Leitrim married Michael England of North Main Street , > Cork on 8th august 1815 at the Catholic Cathedral Cork . Michaels brother Rev > John England officiated . > > We have a photo of a man (circa 1860 - 1870) and on the reverse it says > John Bransfield , Wexford . > > Mary Bransfield had the following siblings James , Richard , Catherine , > Bridget , Ellen , Grace ( who married John Seymour) and Daniel who studied in > Paris , became a doctor and died in Jamaica c 1823 age about 32 . > > Although it says that Mary Bransfield was from Leitrim , I can find no > mention of the surname in that County . > > > Regards > Carol (Wales) > > ______________________________

Hi Brendan , Happy New Year to you and your wife , Thanks for that idea , I didnt realise there were townlands called Leitrim , I will look into it . Take care Regards Carol

Looking for biographical details on Patrick Fad Brown. Evidently he owned a pub in Waterford, came from Ballyduff East, and was mayor of Waterford sometime in the 30s or 40s. I think my grand aunt Johanna Mulvey was married to his brother Edmund. Luke

Hi Carol, There is the slight possibility that Leitrim could mean the Townland of Leitrim in north County Cork. There is also a Leitrim Mor and a Leitrim Beg in the Beara Peninsula in west County Cork. Just a thought. Regards, Brendan. > > Mary Bransfield of Leitrim married Michael England > > Although it says that Mary Bransfield was from Leitrim , I can find no > mention of the surname in that County . >

Hi Sheila , Not sure if we have been in contact before as I am researching Bransfield . My ggg grandmothers maiden name was Bransfield . Mary Bransfield of Leitrim married Michael England of North Main Street , Cork on 8th august 1815 at the Catholic Cathedral Cork . Michaels brother Rev John England officiated . We have a photo of a man (circa 1860 - 1870) and on the reverse it says John Bransfield , Wexford . Mary Bransfield had the following siblings James , Richard , Catherine , Bridget , Ellen , Grace ( who married John Seymour) and Daniel who studied in Paris , became a doctor and died in Jamaica c 1823 age about 32 . Although it says that Mary Bransfield was from Leitrim , I can find no mention of the surname in that County . Regards Carol (Wales)

William Lannen was baptized at Stradbally in February 1838. He was the son ofJohn Lannen who was the Land Agent at the Carrickbarrahane Estate. William migrated to Sydney Australia in the 1850s. His sisters went to Philadelphia. William's mother was Catherine Prendergast. I would be grateful or any Lannen or Prendergast information. I was told many years ago that all Australian Lannens were related, and I am trying to prove it. cecilyR.

Hi all I am new to this list and yes I am yet another Irish descendant in Australia. I am hoping that somebody can help me locate details about a John POWER who married Catherine (Kate) Murphy nee Phelan between 1872 and 1875. John was a grocer in Broad Street Waterford in 1875 when my great grandmother Margaret Mary POWER was born. He came from Ross Kilmeadan. Kate was first married to a William MURPHY in 1872 (Waterford) when her first daughter Mary Margaret MURPHY was born. The POWER family emigrated first to England in 1879, having daughter Alice POWER in England in 1881. They emigrated to Australia that same year, settling in Rockhampton then Townsville. If anyone can help please reply. I am also interested in having an email friend in Ireland if anyone is interested. I am 40 with two young boys. I travelled through Waterford briefly in 2000 but was unable to do any research while I was there. I loved the area and would love to travel in Ireland again. Farewell from a hot day in Oz. Sandi ********************************************************************** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. **********************************************************************

Hello everyone I don't often contribute to the noticeboard but read the messages diligently every day. However - I thought everyone might be interested in knowing that, no matter how many brick walls you bang your head against, sometimes a stroke of good luck jumps up and smacks you in the face! I remember hearing lectures from people saying they had searched, fruitlessly, for years with no success and one day someone telephoned them............ The other day I received a telephone call out of the blue from someone who had found my name, address, email address and phone number in connection with my research and just wondered if we had some common interest. After a VERY long conversation we discovered we are cousins! Yes, I mean first cousins, not second cousins twice removed or anything like that! My family history has been conducted solely at record offices - my parents and grandparents just did not talk about the past - not like we talk to our grandchildren today. My cousin has so much more information about family history than I - I just can't wait to get together to see her photos and hear her memories. Incidentally, we both live in England (me in Kent and she in Essex) but she found my details from a contact in Australia! Isn't the Internet wonderful? Best regards and hope everyone gets a bit of good luck in 2004 Sheila Bransfield (any more Bransfields out there?)

> Kathleen, A few suggestions: 1. Your FHC should have the Family History Library's holdings on their computer. It will list the film numbers you're interested in. 2. If you're lucky enough to live near Boston, Boston College, the Boston Public Library, and the New England Historic Genealogical Society have Griffith's and Tithes indexes and records. Any college with an Irish Studies Program will probably have them. 3. Online resources such as Eneclann have those records, and you can use the site for a reasonable fee. Happy hunting, Dave Collins Hudson, MA > Subject: [WAT] FHC records > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:39:06 -0500 > From: "Kathleen Hogan" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi List, > > I was over at my FHC this morning wanting to order the tithe applotment > records for Kilwatermoy, Kilcockan, and Templemichael parishes in Waterford > County. They had an index on microfiche but it only went up to about half > way through the "K"'s and I was only able to get the number for the film > that included Kilcockan. > > Anyone know anything about this, or happen to have those order numbers? > > Kathleen Hogan Manuel >

Hi List, I was over at my FHC this morning wanting to order the tithe applotment records for Kilwatermoy, Kilcockan, and Templemichael parishes in Waterford County. They had an index on microfiche but it only went up to about half way through the "K"'s and I was only able to get the number for the film that included Kilcockan. Anyone know anything about this, or happen to have those order numbers? Kathleen Hogan Manuel

Patricia: You should start looking at (then) Queenstown, now Cobh (pronounced "Cove"), Great Island, county Cork -- that was the main port of departure. Check the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild, http://www.immigrantships.net. Also take a look at The Cobh Heritage Center, http://www.cobhheritage.com, for background information. Best of luck. Thomas >Can anyone tell me where the ships most often left waterford county and/or >city bound for america in 1866. are there ship's records that can be >searched? > >Thanks. > >******************************************* >Patricia A. Gough >Secretary >Penfield Public Library >1985 Baird Road >Penfield, NY 14526 > >585-340-8720 ext. 4007 > >"Housework, if done properly, will kill you." > -- Erma Bombeck > >

Dear List and friends of Waterford, I've embarked on the trail of trying to find out about my family. I'm the grandson of Mary Kelly, born in Dungarvan in August 1910 and I'm trying to find out information about her and her parents, John Kelly and Anne/Annie Power. My gran died in 1997 and was an inspirational figure in my life, someone who moved from Ireland to England in 1936, in search of her mother and a better life. Despite the fact that she lived the majority of her life in England, she always referred to Dungarvan as home, and my family scattered her ashes on the beach after her death as she never forgot and always loved the place that made her the person she was, even though her life was tougher than anything I could ever imagine. Listed below are the few facts I have about my gran's life in Dungarvan, and they are very vague. I'm looking to find out more from anyone who might know more. Mary Kelly -Born 19.08.1910 - Dungarvan. -Daughter and only child of John Kelly (Born ??.??.??) and Anna/Anne/Annie Power (Born 18.09.90). -Baptised at St Mary's Dungarvan by F.C. Prendergast, her sponsors being Patrick Fitzgerald (unknown connection, born ??.??.??) and Mary Power (possibly an aunt or her grandmother, born ??.??.??). -Injured in a fire in 1916/17/18 and was in hosiptal for a year or more. According to my gran, a number of children were burnt in fires around that time and died. At this time her mother Annie left Ireland to find work in England, fearing that her daughter would die. -Possibly educated/brought up in the workhouse in Dungarvan. Then brought up by her grandmother in Dungarvan. I don't know where. -She worked in a pub in Dungarvan to save up the 35 shillings it cost her to travel to England. I don't know the name of the pub. -My gran spoke of her aunts, an aunt Stesia is one name I remember, although I don't know which side of the family she was from. I'm interested in finding out... well anything really. Anything in connection with Mary Kelly, her parents or her formidable sounding grandmother. I am also hoping to visit Dungarvan this year in order to find out more, if I can. Once again, thanks in advance for any help that anyone might be able to provide me with, I thank you for your attention, and I wish you all a Happy New Year. Spencer Gandley London

Can anyone tell me where the ships most often left waterford county and/or city bound for america in 1866. are there ship's records that can be searched? Thanks. ******************************************* Patricia A. Gough Secretary Penfield Public Library 1985 Baird Road Penfield, NY 14526 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck