Jim, the Parish of Kilronan is near the Tipperary - Waterford border in the Nire valley area, some townlands include Ballymacarbry, Ballymakee, Boolabrien Upper & Lower, Clonanav, Curraheenavoher, Tooralla, if you go to the Waterford Library site and search the Griffiths Valuation you might find some Power's in the Kilronan parish listings. The 1814 date that records were available sounds correct, most Catholic ancestry researchers are all stuck with that dilemma. Vincent Le Plastrier Forest Lake, Qld. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McCarthy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:54 AM Subject: [WAT] Power in Waterford > Can someone tell me if there ever was a town called Kilbronan in > Waterford ????

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Thanks for the reply. I have visited the area and the graveyard and the remains of an old church is all thats left of that Kilronan The church is so old there are as many graves inside the church( with a few walls still standing ) as there are outside the church. The records for this Kilronan are now in the Four Mile Water Church. I never found anyone in this Church to talk to. There is also another Kilronan which is part of the Butlerstown Church closer to Waterford City. The priest there at the time was busy and said he probally could not help much as he was newer to the parish and did not know to much about the area. Jim Vincent & Roberta Le Plastrier wrote: >Jim, the Parish of Kilronan is near the Tipperary - Waterford border in the >Nire valley area, some townlands include Ballymacarbry, Ballymakee, >Boolabrien Upper & Lower, Clonanav, Curraheenavoher, Tooralla, if you go to >the Waterford Library site and search the Griffiths Valuation you might find >some Power's in the Kilronan parish listings. The 1814 date that records >were available sounds correct, most Catholic ancestry researchers are all >stuck with that dilemma. > >Vincent Le Plastrier >Forest Lake, Qld. Australia > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim McCarthy" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:54 AM >Subject: [WAT] Power in Waterford > > >> Can someone tell me if there ever was a town called Kilbronan in >>Waterford ???? >> > > > >==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== >** Visit the Waterford County page at http://community.webtv.net/waterfordroots/waterford ** > >

Can someone tell me if there ever was a town called Kilbronan in Waterford or maybe it could have been the name of a church or a farm. I have a book that says my Power family came from Kilbronan County Waterford , most likey spelled wrong and could be Kilronan or Kilbryan. I have a will for a Patrick Power who died in 1811 in Newfoundland who wed a Mary Fleming , not sure if he wed in Ireland or Newfoundland, He has a brother James who also died in Newfoundland in 1809 and a brother David also deseased and a sister Johanna who wed a Lundergan again I am not sure if they were wed in Ireland. I have visited both Kilronan's in Ireland but could find nothing for church records before 1814. The only other clue would be that he had ordered two headstones one for himself and his brother James Maybe someone has some knowledge on this buissiness in the early 1800's. in Waterford. Jim

Hi, I am researching the Crowley and Kiely families of Lismore drom the 1800s. My great grandmother Margaret Crowley was born 1867 to Michael Crowley and Ellen Kiely. I am told he was a publican which I believe means that he owned or operated a small hotel. Their address was Main Street in Lismore. There is still a small hotel on Main Street but I haven't written there yet to find out if they know the history of it. Does anyone know where else I could get such information? Would it have had a name back then? Thanks, Cheryl

Muriel at [email protected] writes: << Can someone tell me the town closest to Tinnabinna and the name of the Catholic church most likely to have been used by its inhabitants. >> Muriel, I can try. Within the same RC parish (Clashmore), the St. Cronan's church in Clashmore town is about 2 miles NE of Tinnabinna. Another church, St. Bartholomew's, is in Piltown - also about 2 miles away, to the ESE of Tinnabinna. Tinnabinna is on the River Blackwater, right where the current N 25 bridge crosses the river. I don't see that bridge (or its precursor) on the old 19th century maps, but there is another bridge shown on the old map, just about a third of a mile south of the current bridge. I'm not sure I believe it, however - it's a much wider part of the estuary. Perhaps it was a ferry. In any case, the large town of Youghal is just a couple of miles due south of Tinnabinna, and there's obviously an RC church there.......if the Tinnabinnanites were easily able to get there <gr>. That would be in another Diocese (Cloyne), etc. There's also an apparently current church in Lackaroe townland, only 1 1/2 miles WNW of Tinnabinna. But I believe it is C of I (I can't find it on their website, but it was C of I in the 1840's) and it happens to be across the pesky Blackwater, A bit farther on, about 2 1/2 miles NW of Tinnabinna is the RC "Glendine Church", in Knockanore RC parish. But again, you have to cross the river. I would try the churches in my first paragraph before searching the others. But what do I know about genealogy ? Not much <gr>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

IPart of my family research involves Corcorans in Waterford, specifically Declan Corcoran in Tinnabinna. Can someone tell me the town closest to Tinnabinna and the name of the Catholic church most likely to have been used by its inhabitants. Is anyone else researching this family? Thanks, Muriel

Hello to all. We have added five articles to the museum site www.dungarvanmuseum.org this week. Thanks to the museum volunteers Kathleen Pruss and Joanne Connors Parandjuk (among others) for all of their hard work. I appreciate that we have placed a lot of Ardmore articles online recently. When we received the go-ahead to digitise the Ardmore Journals it was too good an opportunity to miss. We are starting to come to an end of these articles and shall be focusing on other places within the county in a month or two. Thanks to Waterford County Library [ www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie ] for permission to reproduce 'Observations On The State Of Waterford 1813'. Of the articles published this month this has to be my favourite. Look for his description of the Inns of Dungarvan in 1813. If it appeared today it would wipe out our tourist industry overnight. :) Yours Willie and Martin Whelan 1. 5 New Articles Placed on the Web Site 2. Museum Scanning Project 3. Local Web Sites 4. Help Dungarvan Museum 5. Contact Us 1. New Website Articles ============================================== The following 2 articles can be accessed by clicking on the latest article links on the home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org. Alternatively click on HISTORICAL ARTICLES on the home page. Kilgrovan (or Mount Melleray) Ogham Stones William Williams of Dungarvan found the Kilgrovan Ogham Stones in 1857. At the turn of the century (1900) the stones were transferred from Clonea to Mount Melleray Abbey. Observations On The State Of Waterford 1813 John Christian Curwen was a renowned agriculturist and parliamentarian. His views on Ireland, where he spent time between 1813 and 1816, are set out in "Observations on the State of Ireland, Principally Directed to its Agriculture and Rural Population" (1818). This article contain descriptions of Lismore and Dungarvan in 1813. The following 3 articles can be accessed by clicking on the latest article links on the home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org. Alternatively click on ONLINE BOOKS & MEMOIRS on the home page and then ARDMORE JOURNAL. Joan Jameson & Norah McGuinness - Two Painters In Ardmore Ardmore, County Waterford has been a back-ground for the work of two remarkable and deservedly acclaimed painters, Joan Jameson and Norah McGuinness. The Wreck Of The Nellie Fleming Owned by the The Fleming family of Youghal 'The Nellie Fleming' was wrecked off Ardmore in December 1913. The Ardmore Regatta The Regatta in the thirties was a big event in Ardmore and usually held on a Sunday afternoon in mid August depending on tides. ============================================== 2. Museum Scanning Project ============================================== We are currently checking the state of copyright on our next scanning project. The book will be a work of general West Waterford interest. I will be getting in touch with the scanning volunteers within the next month or so. ============================================== 3. Local Web Sites ============================================== Two local web sites* have been launched in the recent past that may be of interest to genealogists / historians. www.copper-coast.com This contains articles on the history of Bonmahon, Fenor, Stradbally and the general Copper Coast area. www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie The county library staff are constantly adding new material to their web site. The online resources and local studies sections should contain much of interest. *I will declare an interest in both of these sites. Deise Design www.deisedesign.com were involved in the construction of both of them. If anyone has another local history web site they feel should be mentioned please bring it my attention and I will be happy to oblige. ============================================== 4. Help The Museum ============================================== Dungarvan Museum is a voluntary organisation and we rely on unpaid volunteers to keep our museum going. Loads of different projects remain to be done, you could make it your New Years resolution to help preserve the history of your area / ancestral homeland. As can be seen from the rapid expansion of this web site volunteers can make a difference. Without the scanning project we would still be producing 1 article per month. At the moment as a result of the efforts of our scanning volunteers (living on three different continents) we are averaging 6 new articles per month. Information on how you can help Dungarvan Museum can be found on our home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org We are committed to preserving the history of all County Waterford (not just Dungarvan). ============================================== 5. Contacting The Museum ============================================== All general queries can be directed to the museum at [email protected] If you have a comment or complaint about the web site you can contact [email protected] We are delighted to get all feedback, positive or negative. We endeavor to act on all suggestions that we get but please bear in mind that we are a voluntary organisation and it can take some time to answer queries.

There were two Thompson families in the Carrick-on-Suir Census of 1799. I am sure the first one are my ancestors. The reason is there address at Rack Hill. My mothers family lived on Rackhill on the 1901 and 1911 Census, The first documented information is the marriage of Martin THOMPSON & Mary DWYER on February 15 1835. We have not found the link to the THOMPSON family of 1799, which follows: Michael THOMPSON, 54 HOF; Mary THOMPSON wife; Joseph THOMPSON, 25 Son; Martin THOMPSON, 21 Son. THe wife and sons listed as Scribers. The second THOMPSON family is: John THOMPSON 60 HOF; Mary THOMPSON 23 Cheesemonger. Most of my family were boatmen, and there was a DWYER family listed as Boatmen in the 20th Century Census. Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated. Dual posting Tipperary & Waterford

Willie: Just a brief note of thanks to you and yours and all the great work you do. Even though both sides of my family came from the Kill area and my wife's parental grandparents were from the Modeligo area, it's only recently that I've learned so much about them and Waterford. One interesting piece of my puzzle that I am working on is the possibility that Patrick "Fad" Brown, the mayor of Waterford in the 1950s or early 60s was my mother's first cousin. We were in Waterford during the summer of 2001 and drove down the coast road from Tramore to Dungarvan. Had I known about the copper coast tourist "stuff" that trip would have been much more rewarding. Next for sure we'll check it out. There's a professor of history named William Mulligan at Murrray State University in Kentucky who has done a lot of research into the copper mine at Bonmahon. Do you guys know of each other? Thanks again Luke Foley

Joan at [email protected] writes: << Does anyone know the name of the parish at Clashmore in County Waterford? >> Joan, Clashmore town and townland are located within the civil parish and the RC parish of Clashmore. The RC church in Clashmore is St. Cronan's. Also, within the RC parish, is St. Bartholomew's church in Piltown. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Does anyone know the name of the parish at Clashmore in County Waterford? Thanks Joan

Luke at [email protected] writes: > The area around Kill was the home of both sides of my family. My grandfathers were in St. Nicholas parish Ballyduff Lower, just up the road from Kill. < Luke, I vaguely recall that the Ballyduff problem has arisen before. But the St.Nicholas parish near Kill has me even more confused. There apparently is no St. Nicholas civil or RC parish in Co. Waterford, although there is a Kill St. Nicholas civil parish (and townland) far to the east where Passage East is located, and the ferry across the Suir (access to be soon improved) to Co. Wexford. This is many, many miles from Ballyduff Lower - which is five miles west of Lismore, along the southern bank of the Blackwater and directly across from the town of Ballyduff (and one of the Ballyduff townlands). OK, now I think I've got it. I'm typing as I'm searching (not a good idea). You were writing about St. Nicholas church in the "village" of Ballyduff, Portlaw RC Parish. Unfortunately, the Ballyduffs around this church and village are Ballyduff East and Ballyduff West. If you've been looking for Ballyduff Lower records, they'd probably be from Ballyduff RC parish, over to the far west around the Ballyduff town I mentioned above (but what do I know - I don't do any genealogy). There are 9 Ballyduff-related townlands in Co. Waterford, 2 are of the plain-vanilla variety and the other 7 are embellished with modifiers. The East and West types I mentioned above are just south of the N 25, a couple of miles west of the sharp southward bend of the River Suir as it approaches Waterford City. The Upper and Lower versions, as well as the town and one of the plain townland, are in Lismore & Mocollop civil parish, west of Lismore. The other area of Ballyduff townlands is in Dungarvan civil parish, about 2 or 3 miles WNW of Dungarvan town - where you will find a Ballyduff, Ballyduff More and Ballyduff Beg all clumped together. > Do you know what the church is at Dunhill and how it fits into this? < The church at Dunhill is Sacred Heart. It's in Dunhill RC and civil parishes - - - - but I don't have a clue "how it fits into this" <gr>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

All, Great site, my Grandmother is from Bonmahon, Townland of Seafield, and we are planning to spend a great amount of time in the area on our next trip. ( Grandfather is from Gorteen, Ringville). This site will contribute greatly to that trip. Look forward to more articles on the area. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Seán O'Brien, LIPF. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas area. Peter, etc. Yes, the Catholic Church at Bonmahon, on Eastern end of village, is called SALEEN ; no cemetery there. There's also a disused Protestant church in the village. Its cemetery's few headstones include one showing that a POPE existed there (1800s) who had two wives!!! There's an attractive well-kept Protestant church and cemetery at ROSSMIRE (?), twixt NEWTOWN and Kilmac (Most people use the abbreviated name. The original Gaelic - 'Choill Mhic Thomáisín = 'The wood of the son of little Thomas' - more than likely). Convent chapel at Kilmac correct. Quaint, tiny, well-preserved rural R.C. church and cemetery at FAUGHEEN short distance S.E. approx. of KILL. Have never seen one so small. Not to be confused with FAUGHEEN N.E. of Carrick-on-Suir. Another R.C. church, the Barron Memorial Church can be found at FAHA about 2 mls. S.W. of Kilmac. Also, about 2 mls. N. of Kilmac lies the rural R.C. church and cemetery of FEWS. The latter and NEWTOWN have fine stained windows by Watsons of Youghal. Two from Newtown can be seen on the site: wwwdotwaterford-county-irelanddotprodotie All are within a 13 mile radius of me. Seán. >From: "Peter Langley" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas >Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:42:04 -0000 > >If my memory serves me right, the church in Kilmacthomas (I take your >word >for it Pete that there is) is or was the chapel belonging to the convent >and is on the edge of the town. >Newtown was a new town built about two miles away, but apart from streets >being laid out and a church built, nothing else happened. >I can't remember ever seeing a church at Bonmahon, and I thought the >nearest is Ballylaneen about two miles inland from Bonmahon and on the road >to Kilmac. Something at the back of my mind tells me that it is now part of >Stradbally parish. >Peter. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:09 PM >Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas > > >Frances at [email protected] writes: > ><< I understand that the parish of Kill and Newtown has four churches. >I have the ordinance map for the area, but I cannot find Newtown--I do >find Kill. Also, I am not able to locate the four churches >> > >Frances, > >OK, Here we go !! The Kilmacthomas church is called Our Lady of Mercy, >and is located about a half-mile east of the actual town of Kilmacthomas. >Strange >as it seems, the Newtown church is less than a mile and a half from the >Kilmacthomas one, just up the same road, to the NE. It is close to the >village and >townland of Newtown, but is actually located in Parkeennaglogh townland. >The >church is called All Saints. > >You've located Kill, about four miles ESE of Kilmacthomas. The church >there >is called Our Lady of Mount Carmel. The fourth church in the townland is >way >south, just a few hundred yards north of the town on Bunmahon, on the >ocean. >The area is known as Saleen, but that's an unofficial designation. The >actual >townland is Kilduane, and the church name is St. Mary's. > >Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western >Massachusetts > > >==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== >** To unsubscribe from the list send unsubscribe to >[email protected] or [email protected] if you >are on digest mode** > > > > >==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== >** Visit SHAMROCKROOTS >http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS ** > Seán O'Brien, in historic Portlaw, County Waterford, of 19th century Cotton-Mill fame. www.clodaghcreations.pro.ie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== ** Civil Registration began in Ireland in 1864, before that you will have to access parish registers. See http://community.webtv.net/mpetzolt2/helpfulhints for how to use Civil Registration records **

Hi Guys We built a web site for copper coast tourism recently www.copper-coast.com . There is an article on it about the church at Saleen, Bunmahon and its interesting history. Yours Willie Whelan Deise Design & Dungarvan Museum Site also has general photographs of most of the coastal villages and towns. The article can be found at http://www.copper-coast.com/copper/web/Display/article/45/ Deise Design - Web Site Design & Internet Consultancy www.deisedesign.com 086 2748377

My GGGrandfather, Thomas Foley (father Edmund Foley mother Margaret Moroney) was born in Kill in 1897. The family apparently moved to Stradbally before 1907. Thomas moved to Newfoundland sometime before 1833. Married Bridget Hennessey. [email protected] wrote: --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online

Peter, etc. Yes, the Catholic Church at Bonmahon, on Eastern end of village, is called SALEEN ; no cemetery there. There’s also a disused Protestant church in the village. Its cemetery’s few headstones include one showing that a POPE existed there (1800s) who had two wives!!! There’s an attractive well-kept Protestant church and cemetery at ROSSMIRE (?), twixt NEWTOWN and Kilmac (Most people use the abbreviated name. The original Gaelic – ‘Choill Mhic Thomáisín = ‘The wood of the son of little Thomas’ - more than likely). Convent chapel at Kilmac correct. Quaint, tiny, well-preserved rural R.C. church and cemetery at FAUGHEEN short distance S.E. approx. of KILL. Have never seen one so small. Not to be confused with FAUGHEEN N.E. of Carrick-on-Suir. Another R.C. church, the Barron Memorial Church can be found at FAHA about 2 mls. S.W. of Kilmac. Also, about 2 mls. N. of Kilmac lies the rural R.C. church and cemetery of FEWS. The latter and NEWTOWN have fine stained windows by Watsons of Youghal. Two from Newtown can be seen on the site: wwwdotwaterford-county-irelanddotprodotie All are within a 13 mile radius of me. Seán. >From: "Peter Langley" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas >Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:42:04 -0000 > >If my memory serves me right, the church in Kilmacthomas (I take your word >for it Pete that there is) is or was the chapel belonging to the convent >and is on the edge of the town. >Newtown was a new town built about two miles away, but apart from streets >being laid out and a church built, nothing else happened. >I can't remember ever seeing a church at Bonmahon, and I thought the >nearest is Ballylaneen about two miles inland from Bonmahon and on the road >to Kilmac. Something at the back of my mind tells me that it is now part of >Stradbally parish. >Peter. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:09 PM >Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas > > >Frances at [email protected] writes: > ><< I understand that the parish of Kill and Newtown has four churches. I >have the ordinance map for the area, but I cannot find Newtown--I do find >Kill. >Also, I am not able to locate the four churches >> > >Frances, > >OK, Here we go !! The Kilmacthomas church is called Our Lady of Mercy, and >is located about a half-mile east of the actual town of Kilmacthomas. >Strange >as it seems, the Newtown church is less than a mile and a half from the >Kilmacthomas one, just up the same road, to the NE. It is close to the >village and >townland of Newtown, but is actually located in Parkeennaglogh townland. >The >church is called All Saints. > >You've located Kill, about four miles ESE of Kilmacthomas. The church >there >is called Our Lady of Mount Carmel. The fourth church in the townland is >way >south, just a few hundred yards north of the town on Bunmahon, on the >ocean. >The area is known as Saleen, but that's an unofficial designation. The >actual >townland is Kilduane, and the church name is St. Mary's. > >Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts > > >==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== >** To unsubscribe from the list send unsubscribe to >[email protected] or [email protected] if you >are on digest mode** > > > > >==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== >** Visit SHAMROCKROOTS >http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/SHAMROCKROOTS ** > Seán O'Brien, in historic Portlaw, County Waterford, of 19th century Cotton-Mill fame. www.clodaghcreations.pro.ie _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

My maternal grandmother was born in Kilrossanty, Co. Waterford in 1884. She immigrated to the states approximately around the turn on the century. I'm not sure of the exact date. She was born to Thomas and Brigid (Lyons) Connolly. I'm new at this and will be traveling to Ireland this June. Any suggestions for how I can locate Thomas and Brigid Connolly? I would be grateful for any help. Also, my paternal grandmother was from Kerry. Her name was Honorah Houlihan. I believe she was from Tralee. Again, any help would be appreciated. Jackie Groome -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WAT] Dunhill and Ballyduff Lower Pete: The area around Kill was the home of both sides of my family. My grand fathers were in St. Nicholas parish Ballyduff Lower, just up the road from Kill. Do you know what the church is at Dunhill and how it fits into this? Luke ==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== ** Looking for a certain place in Ireland? Use the IreAtlas Townland Database at http://www.seanruad.com **

Pete: The area around Kill was the home of both sides of my family. My grand fathers were in St. Nicholas parish Ballyduff Lower, just up the road from Kill. Do you know what the church is at Dunhill and how it fits into this? Luke

If my memory serves me right, the church in Kilmacthomas (I take your word for it Pete that there is) is or was the chapel belonging to the convent and is on the edge of the town. Newtown was a new town built about two miles away, but apart from streets being laid out and a church built, nothing else happened. I can't remember ever seeing a church at Bonmahon, and I thought the nearest is Ballylaneen about two miles inland from Bonmahon and on the road to Kilmac. Something at the back of my mind tells me that it is now part of Stradbally parish. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [WAT] Parishes in Kilmacthomas Frances at [email protected] writes: << I understand that the parish of Kill and Newtown has four churches. I have the ordinance map for the area, but I cannot find Newtown--I do find Kill. Also, I am not able to locate the four churches >> Frances, OK, Here we go !! The Kilmacthomas church is called Our Lady of Mercy, and is located about a half-mile east of the actual town of Kilmacthomas. Strange as it seems, the Newtown church is less than a mile and a half from the Kilmacthomas one, just up the same road, to the NE. It is close to the village and townland of Newtown, but is actually located in Parkeennaglogh townland. The church is called All Saints. You've located Kill, about four miles ESE of Kilmacthomas. The church there is called Our Lady of Mount Carmel. The fourth church in the townland is way south, just a few hundred yards north of the town on Bunmahon, on the ocean. The area is known as Saleen, but that's an unofficial designation. The actual townland is Kilduane, and the church name is St. Mary's. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts ==== WATERFORD Mailing List ==== ** To unsubscribe from the list send unsubscribe to [email protected] or [email protected] if you are on digest mode**