I feel I have to reply to this: "Public records" --- basically that means that the records are required by law and/or for the good of the "commonwealth". Recording is customarily done at "public" expense. Just because those records are "public" does not, therefore, imply that access thereto is, or should be, free! I may be willing to pay, as a taxpayer for recording your father's death for health & statistical reasons. But then tell me why I should, as a taxpayer paying the salaries of the personnel of X State Records Administration, pay for your ( probably non-resident) personal access and (probably) demand for copies + postage of anything in those records. Come on! No matter what Mama told you, life is not free. Records are not free. This has nothing to do with entrepreneurs!! These are not counties or States selling their info (altho, personally, I think they should: why should taxes pay it all?) This is simply recovery of costs for doing your searching and copying and mailing. My great-great-granddaddy came to America and bought a farm. That farm is now owned by people who are complete strangers. I would like to own that farm. Should they give it to me? Your great-great-grandaddy came to America and lived a life. He didn't pass any records of that life on to his children. Those records (such as they may be) are now held (owned) by the State in which he lived (probably not your State, but it does not matter). Should they give it to you? Verna, it's not free! Life is not free! This mailing list with its responses is not free (don't you think it costs Charles and other "free" researchers part of their time---part of their lives---to do the work they do to help us all?) T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L., as Robert heinlein once said (duh: "There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" for those who have never read the books) Charles and others on this mailing list; many, many others on other mailing lists; many. many others on numerous Websites: WHO ARE THEY? They are the unsung heroes of our own personal quests: the unsung heroes of genealogy. THEY give us all the "stuff" we get "for free". But they paid for it. They just passed it on. Give a cheer for those who did so. See reality. And, if it moves you, find your own way to pass it on. James Boyce Spokane native resident of Farges, France ----- Original Message ----- From: Verna Williams To: WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? I hate paying for records that should be for whomever and not some entrepreneur that takes everything they can and charges for it. Are the LDS copies of the WA film online? Verna ----- Original Message ----- From: "charles_hansen" <charles_hansen@prodigy.net> To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > Verna Yes Ancestry has the Washington Death Index in their pay fro > view area from 1940 to the present. I don't think you will see the > earlier years online as the 1930s and 1920s microfilm is like you said > so small ans nearly illegible. The Actual index started in the middle > of 1907 and the LDS has copies of the film from 1907- the 1970s also. > > Charles > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Verna Williams" <vmw916@mindspring.com> > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > Is there a death index for the State of WA that can be viewed by pc? > I > > remember looking at one at the library in Spokane when up there, but > > couldn't read the info as it was so small and illegible. Has > someone > > transcribed this list and put it on the Net? > > And is it for the whole State of WA, or only E. WA.? Thanks, Verna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <steph7000@yahoo.com> > > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PM > > Subject: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list. > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3BC.2ACE/2000 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Hello, > > > I'm hoping to find the date of death for James A Comer who died in > the > > late 20s or early 30s. He was a Civil War Veteran who moved west > and was > > probably a Native American. He was married to a woman named Cora, > and was > > survived by four daughters. Thanks for any help! > > > Sincerely, > > > Stephanie Sanderson > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > > Eastern Washington Genealogical Society > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waewgs/ > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > Spokane County Message Boards > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam. > usa.states.washington.counties.spokane&maxrows=25&dir=next > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > Spokane County GenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waspokan/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ______________________________

Thank You James!! At 04:39 PM 4/16/2003 +0200, you wrote: >I feel I have to reply to this: > >"Public records" --- basically that means that the records are required by law and/or for the good of the "commonwealth". >Recording is customarily done at "public" expense. > >Just because those records are "public" does not, therefore, imply that access thereto is, or should be, free! I may be willing to pay, as a taxpayer for recording your father's death for health & statistical reasons. But then tell me why I should, as a taxpayer paying the salaries of the personnel of X State Records Administration, pay for your ( probably non-resident) personal access and (probably) demand for copies + postage of anything in those records. > >Come on! No matter what Mama told you, life is not free. Records are not free. This has nothing to do with entrepreneurs!! These are not counties or States selling their info (altho, personally, I think they should: why should taxes pay it all?) This is simply recovery of costs for doing your searching and copying and mailing. > >My great-great-granddaddy came to America and bought a farm. That farm is now owned by people who are complete strangers. I would like to own that farm. Should they give it to me? Your great-great-grandaddy came to America and lived a life. He didn't pass any records of that life on to his children. Those records (such as they may be) are now held (owned) by the State in which he lived (probably not your State, but it does not matter). Should they give it to you? > >Verna, it's not free! Life is not free! This mailing list with its responses is not free (don't you think it costs Charles and other "free" researchers part of their time---part of their lives---to do the work they do to help us all?) > >T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L., as Robert heinlein once said (duh: "There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" for those who have never read the books) > >Charles and others on this mailing list; many, many others on other mailing lists; many. many others on numerous Websites: >WHO ARE THEY? They are the unsung heroes of our own personal quests: the unsung heroes of genealogy. > >THEY give us all the "stuff" we get "for free". But they paid for it. They just passed it on. > >Give a cheer for those who did so. See reality. And, if it moves you, find your own way to pass it on. > >James Boyce >Spokane native >resident of Farges, France > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Verna Williams > To: WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > I hate paying for records that should be for whomever and not some > entrepreneur that takes everything they can and charges for it. Are the LDS > copies of the WA film online? Verna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles_hansen" <charles_hansen@prodigy.net> > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > Verna Yes Ancestry has the Washington Death Index in their pay fro > > view area from 1940 to the present. I don't think you will see the > > earlier years online as the 1930s and 1920s microfilm is like you said > > so small ans nearly illegible. The Actual index started in the middle > > of 1907 and the LDS has copies of the film from 1907- the 1970s also. > > > > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Verna Williams" <vmw916@mindspring.com> > > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > > > > Is there a death index for the State of WA that can be viewed by pc? > > I > > > remember looking at one at the library in Spokane when up there, but > > > couldn't read the info as it was so small and illegible. Has > > someone > > > transcribed this list and put it on the Net? > > > And is it for the whole State of WA, or only E. WA.? Thanks, Verna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <steph7000@yahoo.com> > > > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PM > > > Subject: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3BC.2ACE/2000 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm hoping to find the date of death for James A Comer who died in > > the > > > late 20s or early 30s. He was a Civil War Veteran who moved west > > and was > > > probably a Native American. He was married to a woman named Cora, > > and was > > > survived by four daughters. Thanks for any help! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Stephanie Sanderson > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > > > Eastern Washington Genealogical Society > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waewgs/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > > Spokane County Message Boards > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam. > > usa.states.washington.counties.spokane&maxrows=25&dir=next > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > Spokane County GenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waspokan/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > > >==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== >URL for the Washington Message Boards. >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.states.washington.counties&maxrows=25&dir=next > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I don't mind paying for b.d.m. records from the State or County. I have spent hundreds and hundreds or dollars on the same. BUT, I do not want to pay Ancestry.com or anyone else for information they get from us and then put on their sites and charge for them. SO DON'T LECTURE ME ABOUT 'FREE'. And besides it is none of your business how I feel about paying for info. Ancestry.com has information that is MY FAMILY and lots of it is incorrect. I would never send them a disc of information. I have quite a few books and I look up information in them for all kinds of people on the Net. I don my share of sharing. Verna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Boyce" <jim-Marta.Boyce@wanadoo.fr> To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > I feel I have to reply to this: > > "Public records" --- basically that means that the records are required by law and/or for the good of the "commonwealth". > Recording is customarily done at "public" expense. > > Just because those records are "public" does not, therefore, imply that access thereto is, or should be, free! I may be willing to pay, as a taxpayer for recording your father's death for health & statistical reasons. But then tell me why I should, as a taxpayer paying the salaries of the personnel of X State Records Administration, pay for your ( probably non-resident) personal access and (probably) demand for copies + postage of anything in those records. > > Come on! No matter what Mama told you, life is not free. Records are not free. This has nothing to do with entrepreneurs!! These are not counties or States selling their info (altho, personally, I think they should: why should taxes pay it all?) This is simply recovery of costs for doing your searching and copying and mailing. > > My great-great-granddaddy came to America and bought a farm. That farm is now owned by people who are complete strangers. I would like to own that farm. Should they give it to me? Your great-great-grandaddy came to America and lived a life. He didn't pass any records of that life on to his children. Those records (such as they may be) are now held (owned) by the State in which he lived (probably not your State, but it does not matter). Should they give it to you? > > Verna, it's not free! Life is not free! This mailing list with its responses is not free (don't you think it costs Charles and other "free" researchers part of their time---part of their lives---to do the work they do to help us all?) > > T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L., as Robert heinlein once said (duh: "There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" for those who have never read the books) > > Charles and others on this mailing list; many, many others on other mailing lists; many. many others on numerous Websites: > WHO ARE THEY? They are the unsung heroes of our own personal quests: the unsung heroes of genealogy. > > THEY give us all the "stuff" we get "for free". But they paid for it. They just passed it on. > > Give a cheer for those who did so. See reality. And, if it moves you, find your own way to pass it on. > > James Boyce > Spokane native > resident of Farges, France > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Verna Williams > To: WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:37 PM > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > I hate paying for records that should be for whomever and not some > entrepreneur that takes everything they can and charges for it. Are the LDS > copies of the WA film online? Verna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "charles_hansen" <charles_hansen@prodigy.net> > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > Verna Yes Ancestry has the Washington Death Index in their pay fro > > view area from 1940 to the present. I don't think you will see the > > earlier years online as the 1930s and 1920s microfilm is like you said > > so small ans nearly illegible. The Actual index started in the middle > > of 1907 and the LDS has copies of the film from 1907- the 1970s also. > > > > Charles > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Verna Williams" <vmw916@mindspring.com> > > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:42 AM > > Subject: Re: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > > > > Is there a death index for the State of WA that can be viewed by pc? > > I > > > remember looking at one at the library in Spokane when up there, but > > > couldn't read the info as it was so small and illegible. Has > > someone > > > transcribed this list and put it on the Net? > > > And is it for the whole State of WA, or only E. WA.? Thanks, Verna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <steph7000@yahoo.com> > > > To: <WASPOKAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 5:14 PM > > > Subject: [WASPOKANE] James A. Comer death index? > > > > > > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > > list. > > > > > > > > Classification: Query > > > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/3BC.2ACE/2000 > > > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm hoping to find the date of death for James A Comer who died in > > the > > > late 20s or early 30s. He was a Civil War Veteran who moved west > > and was > > > probably a Native American. He was married to a woman named Cora, > > and was > > > survived by four daughters. Thanks for any help! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Stephanie Sanderson > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > > > Eastern Washington Genealogical Society > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waewgs/ > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, > > > go to: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > > Spokane County Message Boards > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam. > > usa.states.washington.counties.spokane&maxrows=25&dir=next > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > > records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > > Spokane County GenWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~waspokan/ > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ______________________________ > > > ==== WASPOKAN Mailing List ==== > URL for the Washington Message Boards. > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=localities.northam.usa.st ates.washington.counties&maxrows=25&dir=next > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >