Ann, I'm sorry I can't help you with this one, but I'm curious about your (or your spouse's?) Collins line. By any chance was that in DC? I have a Collins line that lived in Tennelytown. There was some connection to Philly but I haven't figured out whether that's where they were from or if they just had relatives there. Researching Collins is just as bad as if it was Smith <sigh>. Sue Dotson ----- Original Message ---- From: ann collins <jackannc@comcast.net> To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 11:06:00 AM Subject: [WashDC] Creamer/Kramer and Selby Families I'm looking for information or family members regarding the Creamer/Kramer Family who lived in the old southwest area of Washington, D. C. It is believed this family originally came from York or the York area of Pennsylvania, around the 1820's. I don't have any first names for this family as yet except for a daughter, Mary Creamer who married James Selby, in 1841. James was a lock and gunsmith and they also lived in the old southwest of D. C. Thank you, Ann Collins ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message