That's good to hear because the Pumpreys are on my mom's side. When I go to the Montgomery county historical society's library, there may be a book on Gawler's I'll check it out for you. Brenda J Scott -----Original Message----- From: barbara & dave [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records I know - unfortunately, for me they don't answer mail re: genealogy; unlike Pumphrey's who have always been very helpful via snail-mail and e-mail. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, Brenda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:04 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records | Just some FYI from a local DC, Maryland gal. Jos Gawlers was and still | is a very esteemed and prestigious funeral home that has held the | remains of many prominent people, including President John Kennedy. I | grew up with a nephew. | | Brenda J Scott | -----Original Message----- | From: barbara & dave [mailto:[email protected]] | Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:10 PM | To: [email protected] | Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records | | Thank you. | | My James Edward JOY is in Hughesville, Charles Co., MD in 1900 | occupation=wheelwright. | One of his daughter's obits (Patty (Joy) Nutwell) described him as | moving to | the D.C. area about 1900. I have 'J.E. JOY & SON' signing a death | certificate as undertaker (of his step-grandson) and his location is | Berwyn, | MD (Prince Georges Co.). The 1920 Census has him in D.C., | undertaker/own | business. Family stories are that he's connected to Joy Chapel, | Hollywood, | St. Mary's Co., MD but I haven't made the link. | | He was born abt. Dec. 1862 in Maryland and died April 24, 1938 in D.C. | John | Franklin JOY (his son) is, in 1910, a boarder in DC and an | embalmer/undertaker shop. 1920 he's widowed, living with his | mother-in-law, | sister-in-law, and adopted daughter, and is embalmer/Gawler's. 1930 he's | | remarried and Funeral Dir. | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <[email protected]> | To: <[email protected]> | Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:45 PM | Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records | | ||I will keep a look out. I have a G.G.Grandfather Joseph Joy who had a | son | James Joy and a brother William Joy all lived in Wash. DC in the | 1830-1900. | My Joy line comes from Saint Mary's Co MD. || Anthony || || -------------- Original message -------------- || || > You might check to determine if they're still in business - I'm | pretty | sure || > that Grawles is. || > In my own quest, it was suggested to try MLK Library (which I | haven't | yet || > done). || > || > In my case, I'm actually interested in the undertaker vs. a client. | If | you || > should run across anything concerning J. E. JOY & SON, James Edward | JOY, | or || > John Franklin JOY (the son) I'd be interested. James Edward was my | wife's || > Ggrandfather. || > || > Thanks || > Dave || > || > ----- Original Message ----- || > From: || > To: || > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:15 PM || > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records || > || > || > | Could anyone tell me were the records for the following | Undertakers | can be || > researched. || > | T.A.Ceostillo, J.T.Clements, Joseph Grawles, Timothy Hanlon, | J.William || > Lee. I am interested in the years 1880 threw 1920. || > | Thanks very || > much Anthony Long || > | || > | || > | ============================== || > | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. || > | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: || > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx || > | || > || > || > ============================== || > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. || > New content added every business day. Learn more: || > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx || > || || || ============================== || Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for || ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: || http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx || | | | ============================== | Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx | | | | ============================== | Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. | New content added every business day. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx | ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

I'd appreciate that. My specific interest is John Franklin JOY, identified as an embalmer/GAWLERS, in 1920 census. However this is between the time that I have his father James Edward JOY signing a Death certificate in 1908 as J. E. JOY & SON, and 1930 census where John Franklin JOY is identified as Funeral Director. From other information, its my inference that John Franklin "took over the family business" (James Edward was retired in 1930). While its certainly possible that father & son split and reunited, it would seem that Gawlers and the Joys might also be connected somehow. Other than the death certificate I've never found an ad or listing of their business. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, Brenda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:38 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] Undertaker's Records | That's good to hear because the Pumpreys are on my mom's side. | When I go to the Montgomery county historical society's library, there | may be a book on Gawler's I'll check it out for you. | | Brenda J Scott | |