Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. Would a certificate exist from this date? And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: William Boswell To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue: I'm not sure of the date they started this. Congressional had some on file when I was working there, but usually the death certificate is sufficient since it contains much of the same information. Usually the transit certificates came from the funeral home and were transferred with the body, but it would seem a city government office would have had some record of it. I'm not really sure since I only received them for Congressional Cemetery from the funeral home/mortuary then filed them away. The DC Archives might have them, but as I said the death certificate contains much of the same information except for maybe where the body was transferred from. My father's remains were transferred from Dallas, TX to DC and he had one, but I never had the chance to copy it since it went directly to the cemetery (Arlington National) and they aren't likely to give you much information especially a copy of it. Bill ----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:01 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Bill, How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. Would a certificate exist from this date? And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: William Boswell To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen __________________________________________________________________________ __ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message