Yes, Kate - I tried that yesterday, that's why I said I found no Barkmans on their list. Perhaps I should give them a call to see if I missed something. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php

I hope this query is relevant to this listserve. A relative of mine was born at Columbia Hospital for Women in January 1937. She was a twin. The doctor told the birth mother that the other twin did not survive. There was/is no birth certificate for the "surviving" twin, no death certificate of the "deceased" twin, and no record of the mother's hospital stay (she was there for 10 days!) The surviving twin thinks the baby may have been placed for adoption by the doctor, thinking the parents were poor and already had children. If there is anyone who can recommend how best to begin to unravel this mystery, I'm all ears and would appreciate some guidance.

Sue, I have had fairly good luck in the past sending a request by mail to the DC Archives but I don't know whether the people who were working there when I was going and writing are still there and don't recall their names. Perhaps someone who is more current on the DC Archives knows to whom you should address the request. You might also call and ask about sending a mail request and how to address it. Harry -------------- Original message -------------- From: SUE DOTSON <buzzybee@prodigy.net> > Harry, > > Thanks very much. Can you tell me the best way to go about getting this when I > can't get there in person to do it? > > Sue > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "hmrudd@comcast.net" > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:58:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > Sue, > My wife's grandfather died in a VA hospital in NC in 1931 and his body shipped > back to DC for burial at Arlington. DC Archives has a file on what they call > "Foreign Deaths" and I found a DC death certificate for him as well as all of > the documentation necessary to ship him back from the funeral home in NC. When > I was there looking, I didn't notice how far back this file went but it might go > back that far. > Good luck! > Harry > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Sue Dotson" > > > Bill, > > > > How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father > > died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. > > Would a certificate exist from this date? > > > > And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? > > > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: William Boswell > > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > > > > Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the > > government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration > > show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but > > still paying for Medicare. > > > > If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), > > they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. > > However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery > > then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives > > have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one > > place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a > > death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to > > take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know > > D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. > > These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at > > Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the > > database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM > > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > > > > Kate, > > > > Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC > > in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington > > & Lee? > > > > If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living > > in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and > > therefore did not have social security. If you > > know for sure he was still in DC then you might > > try for his death certificate. If he was living > > in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last > > correspondence would indicate an address - then > > try for death certificate in whichever state he > > had lived in. > > > > Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the > > city directory. Library of Congress has telephone > > books that go back to - well way back LOL > > > > Hope this gives you some ideas. > > > > > > My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > ________ > > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! 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Hi Mary- If you go to the Congressional Cemetery website, on the left side of the page, there is a place to do a search just on their website which they call HCC for short. :) That's where you can do search by last name. :) Kate Emaress Nova <emaress_nova@yahoo.com> wrote: Kate, I may be asking the obvious - but HCC search? Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

Sue, My wife's grandfather died in a VA hospital in NC in 1931 and his body shipped back to DC for burial at Arlington. DC Archives has a file on what they call "Foreign Deaths" and I found a DC death certificate for him as well as all of the documentation necessary to ship him back from the funeral home in NC. When I was there looking, I didn't notice how far back this file went but it might go back that far. Good luck! Harry -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Sue Dotson" <buzzybee@prodigy.net> > Bill, > > How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father > died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. > Would a certificate exist from this date? > > And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Boswell > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the > government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration > show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but > still paying for Medicare. > > If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), > they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. > However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery > then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives > have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one > place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a > death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to > take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know > D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. > These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at > Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the > database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. > > -----Original Message----- > From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > Kate, > > Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC > in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington > & Lee? > > If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living > in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and > therefore did not have social security. If you > know for sure he was still in DC then you might > try for his death certificate. If he was living > in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last > correspondence would indicate an address - then > try for death certificate in whichever state he > had lived in. > > Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the > city directory. Library of Congress has telephone > books that go back to - well way back LOL > > Hope this gives you some ideas. > > > My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car > Finder tool. > http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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Bill, How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. Would a certificate exist from this date? And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: William Boswell To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Harry, Thanks very much. Can you tell me the best way to go about getting this when I can't get there in person to do it? Sue ----- Original Message ---- From: "hmrudd@comcast.net" <hmrudd@comcast.net> To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:58:03 PM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Sue, My wife's grandfather died in a VA hospital in NC in 1931 and his body shipped back to DC for burial at Arlington. DC Archives has a file on what they call "Foreign Deaths" and I found a DC death certificate for him as well as all of the documentation necessary to ship him back from the funeral home in NC. When I was there looking, I didn't notice how far back this file went but it might go back that far. Good luck! Harry -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Sue Dotson" <buzzybee@prodigy.net> > Bill, > > How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father > died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. > Would a certificate exist from this date? > > And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? > > Sue > ----- Original Message ----- > From: William Boswell > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the > government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration > show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but > still paying for Medicare. > > If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), > they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. > However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery > then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives > have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one > place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a > death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to > take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know > D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. > These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at > Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the > database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. > > -----Original Message----- > From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM > To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > > > Kate, > > Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC > in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington > & Lee? > > If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living > in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and > therefore did not have social security. If you > know for sure he was still in DC then you might > try for his death certificate. If he was living > in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last > correspondence would indicate an address - then > try for death certificate in whichever state he > had lived in. > > Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the > city directory. Library of Congress has telephone > books that go back to - well way back LOL > > Hope this gives you some ideas. > > > My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car > Finder tool. > http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WWI Draft registration lists his other son as Harry Clay Lybrand, Jr, born 8 February 1890 in Washington, D.C. 1880 Washington, Washington, D.C. 188/231 451 New Jersey Avenue, S. East Emma Lybrand, self, w, f, 42, widow, keeps house, b Ire, father b Ire, mother b Ire Harry C., son, w, m, 20, single, laborer, b Penn, father b Penn, mother b Ire Note: Albert W. Fletcher and mother/siblings living in Philadephia in 1850, 1860, 1870 & 1880 Census, but is listed as single in each, contrary to the 1910 Census record which shows him and Elizabeth married 50 yrs. Question: Harry is already age 20 by 1880 Census, then why is he listed as stepson to Albert W. Fletcher in 1910 Census? Cannot find Harry/Henry in the 1870 census records. As you probably know, Harry and Henry are interchangeable. I do find a Henry Leybrand, age 5/12, in the 1860 Census, Ward 10, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He is living in the home of William & Phoebe Landsdown of South Wales. Then there are these census records, which makes me wonder if perhaps Harry/Henry may have been born illegitimate??? The Lybrand family seems to be well-to-do. 1850 North Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 1603/1788 Margaret Lybrand, 60, f, 10000, b Penn Caroline, 23, f, b Penn Margretta, 20, f, b Penn Sarah, 18, f, b Penn Emma, 16, f, b Penn Mary Birnham, 50, f, b Penn 1860 East Division, Ward 10, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 573/638 Caroline Lybrand, 40, f, 1000, 6000, b Pa Ann M., 38, f, 1000, 6000, b Pa Emma C., 28, f, 1000, 6000, b Pa Sally, 36, f, 1000, 6000, b Pa Mary Burnell, 70, f, domestic, b Del Mary Fitzsimmons, 35, f, domestic, b Ireland 1870 District 28, Ward 10, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 493/586 Caroline Lybrand, 48, f, w, keeps house, 3000, 10000, b Penn Anna M., 47, f, w, at home, 3000, 10000, b Penn Sallie, 45, f, w, at home, 3000, 10000, b Penn E. C., 38, f, w, at home, 3000, 10000, b Penn Mary McCourt, 35, f, w, dom. servt. b Ireland Mary Keenan, 24, f, w, dom. servt, b Ireland No Emma Lybrand listed in 1880 Pennsylvania Census records. Other possibly related Census: 1820 South Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania George Lybrand - 000001 30220 one male over age 45, two females age 26-45, two females age 16-26, three females under age 10. 1830 North Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Margaretta Lybrand - 0000001000000 1130002100000 one female age 50-60, one male age 40-50, one female age 40-50, three females age 10-15, one female age 5-10, one female under age 5 1840 North Mulberry Ward, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Margt. Lybrand - 0000000000000 0001210010000 one female age 60-70, one female age 30-40, two females age 20-30, one female age 15-20. Cheers, Michael Kent Island, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Michael Johnson" <breadman4@verizon.net> To: <washingtondc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand > Sorry, no Obit, but hear's some other info: > > WWI Draft Registration > 5 Sep 1917 > Albert Wallace Lybrand > Residence: 1223 Mass. Ave, S.E., Washington, D.C. > DOB: September 8th, 1886 > POB: Washington, D.C. > OCC: Leveler in Field Party > D.C. Government Water Dept > Washington, D.C. > Single, Caucasian > Claim for exemption from Draft: > Failed physical exam. form Lt. in U.S. Army > Medium height and build > Dark blue eyes and dark brown hair > > 1900 Census Washington, Washington, D.C. > 11/11 > 1223 Massachusetts Ave. > H. C. Lybrand, head, w, m, Jan 1859, 41, married 18 yrs, b Penn, father b > Penn, mother b Penn, Clerk navy Yard > Kate E., wife, w, f, Nov 1859, 41, married 18 yrs, 2 children, 2 living, b > Penn, father b Penn, mother b Penn > Albert W., son, w, m, Sep 1887, single, b DC, father b Penn, mother b > Penn, at school > H. C., son, w, m, Feb 1890, 10, single, b DC, father b Penn, mother b > Penn, at school > > 1910 Census Precinct 5, Washington, D.C. > 256/267 > 1223 Massachusetts Ave., S.E. > Harry C. Lybrand, head, m, w, 50, wd, b Penn, father b Penn, mother b > Penn, Clerk, Navy Yard > Albert W., son, m, w, 23, single, b WDC, father b Penn, mother b Penn > Harry C., son, m, w, 20, single, b WDC, father b Penn, mother b Penn, > Machinist, Navy Yard > Albert W. Fletcher, stepfather, m, w, 74, married 50 yrs, b Penn, father b > Penn, mother b Penn > Elizabeth, mother-in-law, f, w, 73, married 50 yrs, 1 child, 1 living, b > Ireland, father b England, mother b Ireland > > 1920 Census Precinct 5, Washington, D.C. > 121/371 > 1223 Massachusetts Ave. > Harry Lybrand, head, owns home, no mortgage, m, w, 60, wd, b Penn, father > b Penn, mother b New Jersey, Laboratory Clerk, Navy Yard > Albert W., son, m, w, 33, single, b WDC, father b Penn, mother b Penn, > Civil Engineer, Dist. Govt. > > 1930 Census Precinct 5, Washington, D.C. > 205/219 > 1223 Massachusetts Ave, S.E. > Harry C. Lybrand, head, owns home, 10000, has radio, m, w, 70, widow, > married @ age 21, b Penn, father b Penn, mother b Penn, Retired, U.S. > Govt. > Albert W., son, m, w, 44, single, b Washington, D.C, father b Penn, mother > b Penn, Civil Engineer, Dist. Govt. > > Did not see an obit for Albert, but he was mentioned in the 6 October 1946 > in the Washington Post in the obit for his brother Harry. > > Cheers, Michael > Kent Island, Maryland

Washington Post 17 Dec 1913 FLETCHER -- Departed this life on Mon- day, December 15, 1813, ALBERT W. FLETCHER, in the seventy-sixth year of his age. Funeral from his late residence, 1223 Massachusetts Avenue southeast, on Wednesday, December 17, at 2 p.m. Interment at Glenwood Cemetery. Washington Post 9 January 1914 Estate of Albert W. Fletcher; will admitted to probate and letters testamentary granted to Henry C. Lyband, sr., Henry C. Laband, jr., and Albert W. Lyband; bond, $2,000. Attorney, E. H. Thomas. Cheers, Michael Kent Island, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "kate" <chrismomxyz@yahoo.com> To: <washingtondc@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:50 AM Subject: [WashDC] Washington Post Article? > Hi all- > > I found this blurb on Google News Archive, and I've tried the ProQuest > through my library and it only goes back to the 1970s, and this article > doesn't seem to be on Ancestry.com, unless I'm just not searching for it > right. :) Can someone help with this? > > Thank you! :) > Kate > > > The Washington Post (1877-1954) - Washington, D.C. Date: Dec > 23, 1913 Document Types: article Text Word Count: 306 > The will of Albert W. Fletcher, who died December 15 last, was filed > yesterday in the probate court. It bequeathed $1,000 each to his sisters, > Amelia > F. Camp and Ellen F. Streeper, and the residue of the estate to relatives, > Henry > C. Lybrand, sr., Henry C. Lybrand, jr., and Albert W. Lybrand. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kate, My sister once asked why a member of our family was not listed on the SSDI and she was given two reasons. One is that the person never had a social security card and the other is that the death was never reported. We have a number of family members that fall into that category. However, if you have an idea when and where he died, perhaps you can find who the undertaker was and they have wonderful records, including details of where next of kin can be found, and dates of obits in specific newspapers. If the undertaker has gone out of business, somewhere there is an archive of their records. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting

Kate, I may be asking the obvious - but HCC search? Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

Kate, All I have is what I put in the query. Sarah, his wife was my great grandmother's sister. My sister suggested that Sarah Barkman might be buried at Glenwood since her sister and neices are buried there. There are a number of George W. Barkmans in Rootsweb but none of them are the one I am looking for. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

Good morning, Michael- Thank you for the look up, I really appreciate it. :) Kate D Michael Johnson <breadman4@verizon.net> wrote: Washington Post 17 Dec 1913 FLETCHER -- Departed this life on Mon- day, December 15, 1813, ALBERT W. FLETCHER, in the seventy-sixth year of his age. Funeral from his late residence, 1223 Massachusetts Avenue southeast, on Wednesday, December 17, at 2 p.m. Interment at Glenwood Cemetery. Washington Post 9 January 1914 Estate of Albert W. Fletcher; will admitted to probate and letters testamentary granted to Henry C. Lyband, sr., Henry C. Laband, jr., and Albert W. Lyband; bond, $2,000. Attorney, E. H. Thomas. Cheers, Michael Kent Island, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "kate" To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:50 AM Subject: [WashDC] Washington Post Article? > Hi all- > > I found this blurb on Google News Archive, and I've tried the ProQuest > through my library and it only goes back to the 1970s, and this article > doesn't seem to be on Ancestry.com, unless I'm just not searching for it > right. :) Can someone help with this? > > Thank you! :) > Kate > > > The Washington Post (1877-1954) - Washington, D.C. Date: Dec > 23, 1913 Document Types: article Text Word Count: 306 > The will of Albert W. Fletcher, who died December 15 last, was filed > yesterday in the probate court. It bequeathed $1,000 each to his sisters, > Amelia > F. Camp and Ellen F. Streeper, and the residue of the estate to relatives, > Henry > C. Lybrand, sr., Henry C. Lybrand, jr., and Albert W. Lybrand. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Hi William- Thank you for your guidance. :) Is it possible that he just never applied for Social Security? I'm going to find out on Monday where he was living in 1962, I'm hoping I can figure out more from that. I just want to say that Congressional has an amazing website, thank you! Kate William Boswell <whboswell@verizon.net> wrote: Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Hi Mary- I looked up Congressional Cemetery, and they have a wonderful website: http://www.congressionalcemetery.org/ I found George's first wife, Alive there, she died in 1884, and I also found an M. Ethel M. Barkman, only child of Emma and John Barkman, she died in 1897. If you do an HCC only search, search for Barkman, and a PDF will pop up with the two obituaries. Kate --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

Hi Mary- There were a few George W. Barkman's in DC/Virginia in that time period. I found a 4 year old George Barkman in Fairfax, Va with father George, a shoemaker and mother Margaret, but I haven't found that George in 1860. But I'm pretty sure I found the right one on the other census records. Kate --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids.

Hi Mary, I found George W Barkman on the 1870,1880, 1900,1910,1920,1930 census records and the 1890 Directory. Sarah(Sallie) was his second wife. His first wife was Alice, and they had three children that are on the 1880 census, John, George, and Ernest. In 1870, he and Alice have a four month old son, John. I have a possible George in 1860, his parents are Daniel and Elizabeth, and he has several siblings, living in Frederick County, Maryland. There is an obituary on January 6, 1942, for a John Barkman, who was married to Emma, and his brother was George W. Barkman, he was buried at Congressional Cemetery. Here is the 1890 directory for George: Washington, D.C. City Directory, 1890 Name: George W Barkman Location 1: 611 E Capitol Occupation: carpenter Year: 1891 City: District of Columbia State: DC Let me know if you need any of the images. Have a great Sunday. :) Kate --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

Hi Mary- Do you have census records for them? Let me see what I find for you. :) Kate Emaress Nova <emaress_nova@yahoo.com> wrote: Seeking George W. Barkman who was a contractor in Washington, DC during the late 1800's and early 1900's. He was married to Sarah E. Dawson from Blacksburg, VA in 1887. She was born on October 4, 1851, according to the family records. At one time I had in my possession a box full of pictures and post cards, some of which were signed "Sallie" and talking about what she and George were doing. I would like a birth and death date for him and also a place of death. Also a date of death for her and their place of burial. Thank you all for any information you can give me. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

Hi all- I found this blurb on Google News Archive, and I've tried the ProQuest through my library and it only goes back to the 1970s, and this article doesn't seem to be on Ancestry.com, unless I'm just not searching for it right. :) Can someone help with this? Thank you! :) Kate The Washington Post (1877-1954) - Washington, D.C. Date: Dec 23, 1913 Document Types: article Text Word Count: 306 The will of Albert W. Fletcher, who died December 15 last, was filed yesterday in the probate court. It bequeathed $1,000 each to his sisters, Amelia F. Camp and Ellen F. Streeper, and the residue of the estate to relatives, Henry C. Lybrand, sr., Henry C. Lybrand, jr., and Albert W. Lybrand. --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.