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I promise we are not a huge conglomerate, just some genealogists that want free genealogy. I have had my work taken, I know what it's like to not be able to access information that you've donated unless you pay. We won't ever sell data, that's a promise. William Boswell <whboswell@verizon.net> wrote: I've complained to the makers of Family Tree Maker for years that they are selling our data for their own profit. They always come up with a lame excuse that they are providing a service to all genealogists by sharing the information for the price of a CD. Not true! In recent years, they've offered those same family trees to be downloaded from their site, but they charge a whopping fee to do so. I've tried pulling many family trees from both RootsWeb and Ancestry years ago, mainly because they had errors in them and also because I didn't want my information sold after I've spent thousands of dollars researching my family. I plan one day to publish my own stuff and either give it away to family members or sell it. You lose control of your own data when you post to these so called "free" sites. I also agree that many of these family trees contain nothing but errors, no source information to prove anything, and most of it is crap people got off the internet. I prefer the old fashion way of going to libraries, cemeteries, and other places to actually see the source material. Books and online data are also a help if it is genuine. Bill -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lena C. Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:17 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage I agree, this is why I have always been anti-Family Tree Maker. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have an option where you could "backup" your family tree- but what they were really doing was taking everyone's "backed up" trees, burning them all to CD's and selling them. Then not only are they pretty much stealing your stuff, but the CD's are passed off as being real data when they're really just someone else's research and oftentimes not very accurate. Rootsweb does offer free server space to anyone who wants to put their info online. You can get your own space with your own log-in and password and then you can still share your stuff but it's not quite so public. > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:00:42 -0400 > From: "William Boswell" > Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage > To: > > I prefer my own DVDs. You never know what some > companies will do with your > information. ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

I've complained to the makers of Family Tree Maker for years that they are selling our data for their own profit. They always come up with a lame excuse that they are providing a service to all genealogists by sharing the information for the price of a CD. Not true! In recent years, they've offered those same family trees to be downloaded from their site, but they charge a whopping fee to do so. I've tried pulling many family trees from both RootsWeb and Ancestry years ago, mainly because they had errors in them and also because I didn't want my information sold after I've spent thousands of dollars researching my family. I plan one day to publish my own stuff and either give it away to family members or sell it. You lose control of your own data when you post to these so called "free" sites. I also agree that many of these family trees contain nothing but errors, no source information to prove anything, and most of it is crap people got off the internet. I prefer the old fashion way of going to libraries, cemeteries, and other places to actually see the source material. Books and online data are also a help if it is genuine. Bill -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Lena C. Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:17 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage I agree, this is why I have always been anti-Family Tree Maker. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have an option where you could "backup" your family tree- but what they were really doing was taking everyone's "backed up" trees, burning them all to CD's and selling them. Then not only are they pretty much stealing your stuff, but the CD's are passed off as being real data when they're really just someone else's research and oftentimes not very accurate. Rootsweb does offer free server space to anyone who wants to put their info online. You can get your own space with your own log-in and password and then you can still share your stuff but it's not quite so public. > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:00:42 -0400 > From: "William Boswell" <whboswell@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage > To: <washingtondc@rootsweb.com> > > I prefer my own DVDs. You never know what some > companies will do with your > information. ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FTM's "option" you are referring to was their offer of one year of the backup service free with the purchase of their software, after which they charge for the use of the backup system. However, they did not burn and sell this information. You are confusing the backup service with their World Family Tree. When that was first started, they asked researchers to donate their trees with the understanding that FTM would burn the data to CDs which they would sell. The idea was so people could meet up with other same line researchers. It was never done "secretly" or illegally, and FTM made it clear that these were other people's research and should only be used as a beginning point. The problem came because of all the people buying the CDs who used them as though they were primary sources, then spread that data around as though it was proven fact. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Lena C. To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage I agree, this is why I have always been anti-Family Tree Maker. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have an option where you could "backup" your family tree- but what they were really doing was taking everyone's "backed up" trees, burning them all to CD's and selling them. Then not only are they pretty much stealing your stuff, but the CD's are passed off as being real data when they're really just someone else's research and oftentimes not very accurate. Rootsweb does offer free server space to anyone who wants to put their info online. You can get your own space with your own log-in and password and then you can still share your stuff but it's not quite so public. > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:00:42 -0400 > From: "William Boswell" <whboswell@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage > To: <washingtondc@rootsweb.com> > > I prefer my own DVDs. You never know what some > companies will do with your > information. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree, this is why I have always been anti-Family Tree Maker. I don't know if they still do it, but they used to have an option where you could "backup" your family tree- but what they were really doing was taking everyone's "backed up" trees, burning them all to CD's and selling them. Then not only are they pretty much stealing your stuff, but the CD's are passed off as being real data when they're really just someone else's research and oftentimes not very accurate. Rootsweb does offer free server space to anyone who wants to put their info online. You can get your own space with your own log-in and password and then you can still share your stuff but it's not quite so public. > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:00:42 -0400 > From: "William Boswell" <whboswell@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage > To: <washingtondc@rootsweb.com> > > I prefer my own DVDs. You never know what some > companies will do with your > information. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

I prefer my own DVDs. You never know what some companies will do with your information. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of teresa shinn Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 2:45 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: [WashDC] Free Vital Records Storage I just thought I'd let you all know that you can store your genealogy documents free at myrootsplace.com Use the Library Link in the top menu. The username is mrpuser and pass is mrpuser. Hope that helps everyone out! MyRootsPlace.com ~ Free Genealogy for the next Generation. --------------------------------- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Dear Elizabeth Culhane, I can't answer your question but I wanted you to know that at least some Mattingly families in DC were Protestant. As an example below is a Mattingly family with Episcopal and Methodist connections. This family has baptisms - St. Albans Episcopal Church and Eldbrooke Methodist Church and burials at the Methodist Cemetery in Tenleytown, NW, DC Descendants of Thomas Mattingly Page 1 29 Jul 2007 1. Thomas Mattingly (b.Abt 1774-VA) sp: Jane Walker (b.Abt 1787-VA;m.22 Nov 1820;d.Aft 1860) 2. Thomas H. Mattingly (b.Mar 1827-VA;d.1903) buried Methodist Cemetery, Tenleytown, DC sp: Maria Ann Collins (b.1838-Washington D.C.;m.8 Mar 1855;d.1900) buried Methodist Cemetery, Tenleytown, DC 3. Jane Malinda Mattingly (b.Abt 1858-Washington D.C.) 3. Mary Ann Mattingly (b.Jul 1860-Washington D.C.) sp: Thomas Thornton Follin (b.Apr 1857-VA;m.10 Dec 1880;d.Aft 1920) 4. William Henry Arthur Follin (b.20 Mar 1881-Washington D.C.) 4. Thomas Henry Follin (b.Abt 1885-Washington D.C.) sp: Bessie Ann Otterbach (b.Abt 1889-MD;m.Abt 1906) 5. Mary Follin (b.Abt 1908-MD) 5. John E. Follin (b.Abt 1913-Washington D.C.) 5. Frances Follin (b.Abt Sep 1918-Washington D.C.) 5. Florence Louise Follin (b.26 Oct 1924;d.22 Jan 1963) sp: Leonard Aloysius Jr. Shoemaker (b.15 Jul 1918;m.Sep 1941;d.5 Apr 1971-Sibley H.,Washington D.C.) 6. Carol Jean (Jeannie) Shoemaker (b.Abt 1945) sp: Ruben Romero (b.11 Jan 1943-Acambaro,Guanajuato,Mexico) 7. Carolina Jeanette Romero sp: Kenneth (Ken) Strong 7. Ruben Romero Jr. sp: Sylvia Campos 8. Ruben Romero III 7. Anthony Romero 7. Sergio Romero sp: Enrique Sanchez Jr. (b.10 Sep 1952-Tyler,TX;m.1979(Div)) 7. Enrique (Ricky) Sanchez Jr. (b.1980;d.2002) 7. Michele Sanchez (b.Aft 1980) 4. George Edward Follin (b.Jan 1886-Washington D.C.) sp: Mary Etta (b.Abt 1898-Washington D.C.) 5. Agnes Follin (b.Abt Aug 1916-Washington D.C.) 5. Alice Follin (b.Abt Sep 1918-Washington D.C.) 4. Annie Franklin Follin (b.Jul 1887-Washington D.C.) 4. Mary Agnes Follin (b.22 May 1892-Washington D.C.) sp: Eugene Baker (b.Abt 1886-MD) 5. Bessie L. Baker (b.Abt May 1908-Washington D.C.) 5. Louis Baker (b.Abt 1910-Washington D.C.) 5. Francis Baker (b.Abt 1903-Washington D.C.) 5. Dora Baker (b.Abt 1915-Washington D.C.) 5. Kathryn Baker (b.Abt Oct 1919-Washington D.C.) 3. Josephine Frances Mattingly (b.Jun 1863-Washington D.C.;d.Bef 1920) sp: John Francis Barnes (b.20 Jan 1865-Washington D.C.;m.16 Oct 1884;d.Aft 1920) 4. Charles H. Barnes (b.May 1886-Washington D.C.) marriage Eldbrooke Methodist Church sp: Ruth M. Fagins (m.3 Jun 1918) 5. George Grover Barnes (b.1 May 1918-Tenleytown,Washington D.C.) Descendants of Thomas Mattingly Page 2 29 Jul 2007 4. Bessie V. Barnes (b.Mar 1888-Washington D.C.) sp: George L. Gorman (b.Abt 1881-OH;m.Bef 1913) 5. Helen Gorman (b.Abt 1913-Washington D.C.) 5. Margaret Gorman (b.Feb 1915-Washington D.C.) 4. John Dwyer Barnes (b.5 Jun 1891-Georgetown,Washington D.C.) baptised St. Alban's Episcopal Church sp: Edna (b.Abt 1896-Washington D.C.;m.Bef 1917) 5. Margaret Barnes (b.Abt Dec 1916-Washington D.C.) 5. Mildred Barnes (b.Abt Sep 1919-Washington D.C.) 4. George Grover Barnes (b.Sep 1892-Washington D.C.) 4. William F. Barnes (b.Feb 1896-Washington D.C.) sp: Josephine M. Skymenski (m.3 Jun 1922) 4. Archie Clayton Barnes (b.Nov 1898-Washington D.C.) 3. Barbara Ellen Mattingly (b.24 Oct 1868-Washington D.C.;d.10 Mar 1900) St. Alban's Church Baptism Records, Parish Register Vol. 1, page 37: buried Methodist Cemetery Tenleytown, NW Washington, DC, USA sp: Owen Jackson Collins (b.Aug 1867-Washington D.C.;m.9 May 1889) 4. Alice Roberta Collins (b.Mar 1890-Washington D.C.) 4. Edna Collins (b.May 1895-Washington D.C.) 4. George Thomas Collins (b.Feb 1897-Washington D.C.) 3. Thomas Henry Mattingly (b.12 Aug 1871;d.11 Sep 1878) christened St. Alban's Episcopal, buried Methodist Cemetery, Tenleytown, NW, DC 3. George Washington Mattingly (b.29 Dec 1875-Washington D.C.;d.1914) christened St. Alban's Episcopal, buried Methodist Cemetery, Tenleytown, NW, DC 3. Alice Roberta Mattingly (b.24 Mar 1881-Washington D.C.) christened St. Alban's Episcopal, 2. Mary Ann Mattingly (b.Abt 1829-VA) sp: Lewis Payne (b.Abt 1828-Washington D.C.;m.25 Nov 1848) 3. Mary Jane Payne (b.Abt 1849-Washington D.C.) 3. Emma Payne (b.Abt 1850-Washington D.C.) 3. Anna Payne (b.Abt 1851-Washington D.C.) 3. George Payne (b.Abt 1855-Washington D.C.) 3. John Payne (b.Abt May 1860-Washington D.C.) In response to: snip <<<<<query dated Wed, 25 Jul 2007 subject: 1859 cemetery near 522 Mass Avenue Thomas Joseph Mattingly and Anna Reeves married in November of 1853 by Rev. French Evans, a Methodist Minister son: Virgil Maxcy Mattingly b. Abt Sept 1854 d. July 8, 1859 Washington, DC dau: Harriet Mattingly b. 1857/58 baptised 1860 St. Aloysius Catholic Church in DC as of 8 July 1859 Mattingly's lived at 522 Massachusetts Ave.>>>>>unsnip Deborah

Anna O. Beamer died in May 1, 1895 at 603 P St., NW Washington, DC. According to her Death Certificate she had been living in DC for 8 years, which would have made her only 16 years old when she arrived with her mother and sisters. She apparently never lived with her mother - so what was at 603 P St., NW? What was she doing? She died of typhoid fever. Thanks for any help. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php

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Elizabeth - I'm not sure if Anna Reeves was protestant or not, but the Mattinglys had a long history of activity with the Catholic church in the D.C. area. They are to be found early on in Holy Trinity church records. In fact, if I have the relationships worked out correctly, Thomas's grandmother, Ann Carberry Mattingly. was the Ann Mattingly whose 1824 cure was held by the church to be miraculous. Ann Carberry Mattingly and her husband John were prominent members of Holy Trinity. Both Holy Trinity and St. Aloysius are operated by the Jesuits - or were at least early on - so that may account for Thomas being involved at St. Aloysius. I've been following some of the earlier Mattinglys and their associated families in the D.C. area. I know I have found a couple of burials in Holy Rood. But I think I would definitely be looking at the Catholic cemeteries in the area. Jackie KCANDME103@aol.com wrote: > I have an obit for a small child (4years 10 months) who died July 8, 1859 in > Washington. He was Virgil Maxcy Mattingly, son of Thomas Joseph Mattingly > and Anna Reeves. This couple was married in November of 1853 by Rev. French > Evans, a Methodist Minister. > > In 1860, they baptized their first daughter, Harriet Mattingly, at St. > Aloysius Catholic Church in DC at the age of 2 1/2 and her sponsor was Dr. Martin > Van Buren Bogan. Don't know the connection with this doc unless he cared for > their deceased son during his short illness. > > At the time of their son's death, the Mattingly's lived at 522 Massachusetts > Ave. Don't know if anyone would know of a burial place....perhaps > Methodist....near to there. I don't find Virgil in Congressional Cemetery. > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, NY > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

If the Mattinglys baptized their daughter at St. Aloysius Catholic Church, North Capitol St. DC,, its possible they converted to Catholicism. In that event, they may be buried at Mt. Olivet Cemetery 1300 Bladensburg Rd, Washington DC - Mt. Olivet Cemetery Manager Anthony T. Covington 1300 Bladensburg Road, N.E. Washington, D.C. 20002 (202) 399-3000 www.ccaw.org/cemeteries/mtolivet On Jul 25, 2007, at 6:17 PM, KCANDME103@aol.com wrote: > I have an obit for a small child (4years 10 months) who died July > 8, 1859 in > Washington. He was Virgil Maxcy Mattingly, son of Thomas Joseph > Mattingly > and Anna Reeves. This couple was married in November of 1853 by > Rev. French > Evans, a Methodist Minister. > > In 1860, they baptized their first daughter, Harriet Mattingly, at St. > Aloysius Catholic Church in DC at the age of 2 1/2 and her sponsor > was Dr. Martin > Van Buren Bogan. Don't know the connection with this doc unless > he cared for > their deceased son during his short illness. > > At the time of their son's death, the Mattingly's lived at 522 > Massachusetts > Ave. Don't know if anyone would know of a burial place....perhaps > Methodist....near to there. I don't find Virgil in Congressional > Cemetery. > > Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, NY > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I have an obit for a small child (4years 10 months) who died July 8, 1859 in Washington. He was Virgil Maxcy Mattingly, son of Thomas Joseph Mattingly and Anna Reeves. This couple was married in November of 1853 by Rev. French Evans, a Methodist Minister. In 1860, they baptized their first daughter, Harriet Mattingly, at St. Aloysius Catholic Church in DC at the age of 2 1/2 and her sponsor was Dr. Martin Van Buren Bogan. Don't know the connection with this doc unless he cared for their deceased son during his short illness. At the time of their son's death, the Mattingly's lived at 522 Massachusetts Ave. Don't know if anyone would know of a burial place....perhaps Methodist....near to there. I don't find Virgil in Congressional Cemetery. Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, NY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

When a person dies they only show up in the SSDI when someone request a death benefit. Neither my mother or grandmother appear on the list although they did receive SS benefits. Not sure of the rules for receiving a death benefit from SS but I think you have to be a spouse or a dependant. Faye ----- Original Message ----- From: kate To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Hi William- Thank you for your guidance. :) Is it possible that he just never applied for Social Security? I'm going to find out on Monday where he was living in 1962, I'm hoping I can figure out more from that. I just want to say that Congressional has an amazing website, thank you! Kate William Boswell <whboswell@verizon.net> wrote: Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They will also be on the SS Death Index if their death is reported. My mother could not receive a death benefit because my father had already received it and she had no children under 18 to receive it. But since I reported her death to stop social security benefits she appears on the list.

My Aunt Margaret Louise Crumbaugh was born to the parents; David L. Crumbaugh and Emma Mongan, Thought maybe some one could help me her mother was killed in 1906 after which the 4 girls were split up. I have her birth and death information also her married name was Dimond. Thank you so much Cecile Born: 14 June 1894 Washington D.C.,Washington ,Washington D.C.,U.S.A. Died: 18 Oct 1978 Riverton, New Jersey sissy Remember to use your BCC (Blind Carbon Copy) option when forwarding and mailing to multiple recipients. If you don't put your own email address in the "TO" box, you are not BCCing. Protect your friends' email addresses!

Sue: I'm not sure of the date they started this. Congressional had some on file when I was working there, but usually the death certificate is sufficient since it contains much of the same information. Usually the transit certificates came from the funeral home and were transferred with the body, but it would seem a city government office would have had some record of it. I'm not really sure since I only received them for Congressional Cemetery from the funeral home/mortuary then filed them away. The DC Archives might have them, but as I said the death certificate contains much of the same information except for maybe where the body was transferred from. My father's remains were transferred from Dallas, TX to DC and he had one, but I never had the chance to copy it since it went directly to the cemetery (Arlington National) and they aren't likely to give you much information especially a copy of it. Bill ----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 2:01 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Bill, How long has DC law required the transit certificate? My paternal GGg-father died in Philly on 24 Oct 1907 and his body was brought back to DC for burial. Would a certificate exist from this date? And does anyone know if the DC Archives has these certificates? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: William Boswell To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen __________________________________________________________________________ __ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's possible that he never applied to Social Security. I had two cousins (both committed suicide) and I could not find either one in the SSDI database. Either their names were misspelled or they never had social security numbers. They came from a very rich family so why would they care to work. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of kate Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:59 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Hi William- Thank you for your guidance. :) Is it possible that he just never applied for Social Security? I'm going to find out on Monday where he was living in 1962, I'm hoping I can figure out more from that. I just want to say that Congressional has an amazing website, thank you! Kate William Boswell <whboswell@verizon.net> wrote: Social Security would still list you whether you're an employee of the government or not. My own listings with the Social Security Administration show my government time blank because I was paying into another system, but still paying for Medicare. If you want to try to get a death certificate (DC Arhives or otherwise), they will require a death date/burial date and he must have died in DC. However, if they died in another state and were transferred to a DC cemetery then there would be a transit certificate. I'm not sure if the DC Archives have these. I know cemeteries have them for the ones transferred from one place to another. A transit certificate has most of the information from a death certificate, but the primary purpose is for a local funeral home to take possession, transfer the remains to a cemetery, and burial. I know D.C. law requires a transit certificate especially for out-of-state deaths. These are provided by the funeral home/mortuaries. When I worked at Congressional Cemetery, I recorded all of the einformation from it to the database, then filed it away in one of the cabinets. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Emaress Nova Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 1:28 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] looking death record/obit for Albert W Lybrand Kate, Do you know if Mr. Lybrand was still living in DC in 1962 when he last corresponded with Washington & Lee? If he was not listed in SSDI and was still living in DC most likely he was a US Gov't employee and therefore did not have social security. If you know for sure he was still in DC then you might try for his death certificate. If he was living in Virginia or Maryland - hopefully that last correspondence would indicate an address - then try for death certificate in whichever state he had lived in. Also, check with DC Library for a listing in the city directory. Library of Congress has telephone books that go back to - well way back LOL Hope this gives you some ideas. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message