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Thanks! That does help. Debi -------------- Original message -------------- From: "D Michael Johnson" <breadman4@verizon.net> > This may help get you close: > > 1853. The Washington and Georgetown Directory, Strangers' Guide-book for > Washington, and Congressional and Clerks' Register, Compiled and Published > by Alfred Hunter. > > Riley, Terence, coffee roaster, cor Union alley and N s. > > > Cheers, Michael > Kent Island, Maryland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:19 PM > Subject: [WashDC] Old Alley > > > > Hi - Just wondering if anyone knows where Union Alley was located in 1862. > > > > Thanks, > > Debi > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - Just wondering if anyone knows where Union Alley was located in 1862. Thanks, Debi

This may help get you close: 1853. The Washington and Georgetown Directory, Strangers' Guide-book for Washington, and Congressional and Clerks' Register, Compiled and Published by Alfred Hunter. Riley, Terence, coffee roaster, cor Union alley and N s. Cheers, Michael Kent Island, Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: <genealogyldy@comcast.net> To: <Washingtondc-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: [WashDC] Old Alley > Hi - Just wondering if anyone knows where Union Alley was located in 1862. > > Thanks, > Debi > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm looking for any information on Mary C. Donovan she was born 1860 in Washington D.C. died 936 here in CA. Her mother's name is Margaret Donovan (born 1825 in Ireland) and I did find them in the 1880 Census in San Francisco, although her mother was a widow, I was wanted to find something that listed her and maybe the family, is it possible to get a Birth Certificate for Mary Cecilia Donovan or maybe anything else that list the family. Thank you in advance Cecile

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Do you remember Milton or Lester Singman? They both worked for the FBI during that time period. Diane -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SumDMJ@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 3:04 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? My husband, Wilton "Moose" Sumner also worked for the FBI and lived in the "Randall House" in DC in the 50's. Might your husband have known him? I also worked there, which is where we met. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WASHINGTONDC-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thank you, Emaress and Marge, for replying to my inquiry. With the info you gave me, I was able to find out quite a bit about the DC Workhouse. It was designed to house prisoners who had not been convicted of violent crimes (for example, in some cases they were convicted of not supporting children under age 14), and were to serve short sentences. Prisoners were to be rehabilitated in part by working on an industrial farm developed by the prison complex. Thank you again. Patricia Rogers ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I send them to Robert.Nelson@dc.gov ... But I noticed they must be busy as I haven't received the copies for my latest request as yet. Be sure you ask for something with an exact reference, like name and date or certificate number. They won't search a range of dates. -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Angela Gabbard Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:05 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Hi, Could you provide me with the e-mail address for the archives? I have been having trouble receiving a response this year to my queries. Thanks, Angela -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Wheary Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:46 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? I've been sending my requests via email, and have not sent an SASE as a result. Unfortunately, the 1940 certificate I need has to come from the Vital Records office rather than the Archives - and they'll make up for it! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:34 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Susan, Thank you very much for your help. I have prepared and am ready to send a letter to Mr. Nelson requesting the death certificate. However, before I do I am wondering if govt. funding covers the expense for them to copy it and mail it to me? Or should I at least include a SASE? What is customary? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Sue, Since the death did occur in Washington DC, I'd contact the archives to see if there's a death certificate for her - remember this would be December of 1879 if it's on the 1880 schedule. It won't cost you anything. The DC death certificates don't give parents, spouse, or the like, but they do give the residence of the deceased. The DC City directory would show who lived there, like maybe the household she was with in 1850 who may have moved to the district. At least you know she had that surname for at least 30 years. As an adult living in a household with a family of a different name, she might have been a relative of either husband or wife. Unless, of course, she was a hired servant. This sounds as bad as my Mary V. (Soper) Doyle; she's hiding out there somewhere, but I can't find her (yet) in 1880, 1900, 1910, or 1920. And I don't know yet that I've really found her in 1830. But I recently did get an obit so at least I know where she is now!!! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:00 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Susan, Yes I did, but I could not find her in 1860 or 1870. I found her in 1850 in Cumberland, VA, but she is the only one in the household with her surname. She is listed last in the household, older than the head's children, so I still have no clue how she fits in. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Sue, Have you checked the 1870 DC census for this person (then aged 61) to see where she fits in? If you don't find her, I'd try 1860 and 1850 as well; if she was born in DC & died there as well there's a good chance she was living there during some of those years. Also, if you get an exact date of death you can get the death certificate at no charge - if there is one - from the DC Archives. Maybe look for an obituary? Good hunting! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:53 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: [WashDC] How do I learn more? I found the information below online. Given the fact that this could be a married or a maiden name, can anyone suggest what direction to go with my research to find out more about this person and how she, or her spouse, connects to my line? (besides spending money for a death certificate.....I'm spending enough for the ones I know are my direct line!) U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index Surname: E. Reintzel Year: 1880 County: Washington CO State: DC Age: 71 Gender: F (Female) Month of Death: Dec State of Birth: DC ID#: MRT197_274342 Occupation: NONE LISTED Cause of Death: CANCER I would appreciate any help or suggestions. 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Hi, Could you provide me with the e-mail address for the archives? I have been having trouble receiving a response this year to my queries. Thanks, Angela -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Wheary Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:46 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? I've been sending my requests via email, and have not sent an SASE as a result. Unfortunately, the 1940 certificate I need has to come from the Vital Records office rather than the Archives - and they'll make up for it! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:34 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Susan, Thank you very much for your help. I have prepared and am ready to send a letter to Mr. Nelson requesting the death certificate. However, before I do I am wondering if govt. funding covers the expense for them to copy it and mail it to me? Or should I at least include a SASE? What is customary? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Sue, Since the death did occur in Washington DC, I'd contact the archives to see if there's a death certificate for her - remember this would be December of 1879 if it's on the 1880 schedule. It won't cost you anything. The DC death certificates don't give parents, spouse, or the like, but they do give the residence of the deceased. The DC City directory would show who lived there, like maybe the household she was with in 1850 who may have moved to the district. At least you know she had that surname for at least 30 years. As an adult living in a household with a family of a different name, she might have been a relative of either husband or wife. Unless, of course, she was a hired servant. This sounds as bad as my Mary V. (Soper) Doyle; she's hiding out there somewhere, but I can't find her (yet) in 1880, 1900, 1910, or 1920. And I don't know yet that I've really found her in 1830. But I recently did get an obit so at least I know where she is now!!! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:00 PM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Susan, Yes I did, but I could not find her in 1860 or 1870. I found her in 1850 in Cumberland, VA, but she is the only one in the household with her surname. She is listed last in the household, older than the head's children, so I still have no clue how she fits in. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [WashDC] How do I learn more? Sue, Have you checked the 1870 DC census for this person (then aged 61) to see where she fits in? If you don't find her, I'd try 1860 and 1850 as well; if she was born in DC & died there as well there's a good chance she was living there during some of those years. Also, if you get an exact date of death you can get the death certificate at no charge - if there is one - from the DC Archives. Maybe look for an obituary? Good hunting! Susan in Missouri -----Original Message----- From: washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:washingtondc-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Dotson Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:53 AM To: washingtondc@rootsweb.com Subject: [WashDC] How do I learn more? I found the information below online. Given the fact that this could be a married or a maiden name, can anyone suggest what direction to go with my research to find out more about this person and how she, or her spouse, connects to my line? (besides spending money for a death certificate.....I'm spending enough for the ones I know are my direct line!) U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index Surname: E. Reintzel Year: 1880 County: Washington CO State: DC Age: 71 Gender: F (Female) Month of Death: Dec State of Birth: DC ID#: MRT197_274342 Occupation: NONE LISTED Cause of Death: CANCER I would appreciate any help or suggestions. 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On 8/27/07, Susan Wheary <susanwheary@emypeople.net> wrote: > I've been sending my requests via email, and have not sent an SASE as a > result. Unfortunately, the 1940 certificate I need has to come from the > Vital Records office rather than the Archives - and they'll make up for > it! I've been really surprised, both in my thesis research and in my genealogical research, to find out just how prevalent having boarders was. Not only was it the standard housing for single working people living away from their extended families, it was also a respectable way for a person to make a living, especially widows, with or without children. Elizabeth Whitaker

Wouldn't it be nice if a lot of the large abondoned houses in DC were converted to boarding houses. Think of the affordablity of housing for so many.

if you are referring to the DC Archives, you will have better luck if you write a letter stating clearly what you are looking for. Their mailing address is: District of Columbia Office of Public Records DC Archives 1300 Naylor Court, NW Washington, DC 20001-4255 If they do not find what you are looking for, the return your letter to you with notes as to where else you might try. Mary My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

Back in the 40's and 50's that I personally know about, there were rooming and boarding houses all over Washington. For a time I lived at 1310 16th St NW right on Scott Circle. My husband to be lived just up the street at 1523 16th St. It was a boarding house full of young people that worked for the FBI with a couple of others that also worked for the government in other agencies. These places were old houses with hardwood floors, balconied bedrooms and ancient bathroons that had very large tubs and makeshift showers. Probably they had been family homes at one time - ah those were the days! My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC

DC used these places to house the minor criminals. But in other areas it was a place where they put the poor and they were hired out to work. Children and teens were apprenticed to learn a trade. They were modeled after the WorkHouses in England.

Where do I find the information online for sending for a Washington death certificate? Kathie Groll

I believe I have found a relative in the 1910 federal census. He's listed as an "inmate" in the "District Work House, Male". Can anyone tell me what a work house is? Is it a prison, or perhaps like a poor house? I can't seem to find out anything about it. Thank you. Patricia Rogers ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Vital Records 825 North Capitol Street Washington, DC 20002 Phone:(202)442-9009 Hours: 8:30 - 3:30 forms:http://www.ci.washington.dc.us My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

It was part of the District of Columbia Penal Institution located at Occoquan, VA. It closed sometime in the 1980's I believe. There was a women's division and the work house across from each other. There was also a prison located about two miles from it in Lorton, VA. That is totally gone and houses are being built there now. My God provides my every need according to His riches in glory. Amen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222