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Betty: I checked the book Anthony was speaking of and it is still available for viewing. It is listed by Range location which makes it a little more difficult to search. However, going through the interment index helps if the person is actually located there. I did not find Dr. John Patrick Gilroy listed in the interment index, which by the way, omits a number of persons who are actually buried there. The index is in the process of being updated and plans are being made to publish it to both print and internet in the near future. There is a Mollie Gilroy buried there on Feb 16, 1966 (Range 71, Site 381). The Range Book shows she is the only one buried in this location. I don't know if there's a connection with her and Dr. Gilroy. Bill Boswell Volunteer Genealogist Congressional Cemetery -----Original Message----- From: bglawson [mailto:bglawson@atlnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:18 AM To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Congressional Cemetery Dear Anthony (and List), You checked for Dr. John Patrick Gilroy for me at Congressional Cemetery some time ago and could find nothing there. He was shown in DC on the 1860 Census, died at the newly opened Providence Hospital in October of 1861 and supposedly was buried at Congressional Cemetery. He was from Charles County, Maryland, and was a contract physician with the Union Army. Is the information for the years 1861 and 1862 new materal? Betty GILROY Lawson bglawson@atlnet.com Atlanta, GA Anthony Long wrote: > > Dear Bill and list > I have been wanting to pass this on for years and time has slipped by. > Now that Bill is working as a part time Genealogist at Congressional > this could help him and some on the list. There is a book there named > Burial Register of United States Personnel in Congressional Cemetery. > The names of some cover the missing years June 1861 > threw 1862 and 1862 threw 1866. These years were missing in Washington > DC I guess because of the Civil War. > Many of the names in this Book are surnames from Fairfax Co Va > Alexandra Va and Charles Co Md.{ Union Personnel that is} > The Confederate names were from the old Capitol prison and from the > southern states not DC. > I have found some DC names in this book that was not listed any were > else. I hope this may help someone as I was going to list the names on > the list but there are to many. If you go there or Bill looks for you I > would give a donation as this is one of the best Cemetery's to do > research in. Thank you Bill. > Anthony Long > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

The new Congressional Cemetery website is now up and running. It contains many obituaries for persons buried there, death certificates from 1884 to 1886, history of the cemetery, and much more. The website address is: http://www.congressionalcemetery.org/index.html The new email address is: cong_cem@att.net. Have fun.

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Page 126 (probably Ketchum School) Departmental Arithmetic Feb. 1. 1924 - Feb. 18, 1924 I volunteered to take 7 A Comp. Miss Masson Gram. Miss Locwood Arith. Miss C.M.T.B. 7 A Baldwin, Russell Barry, W. David Bell, Garland Bond, Lewis T. Bray, Chas. H. Brashears, James H. Clark, Leonard J. Fletcher, Harold A. Francis, Earl H. Hawkins, John T. Jordan, Melvin M. Miller, Nathan Naylor, Clarence Pfaff, Karl J. Pfaff, Theo. P. Zirkle, David Cohen, Annette E. Cole, Mabel E. Diggs, Gertrude O. Dyer, Evelyn M. Fngitt, Anna E. Harrington, Cath. W. Herath, Magdalena M. Hicks, Mildred A. Howard, Gertrude C. King, M. Cath. Lawrence, Eliz. E. Liesch, Eliz. M. Martin, Louise M. Murphy, Evelyn E. Rankin, Wimfred C. Russell, Ethel E. Seaman, Pearl V. Steinmeier, Isabel F. Wedding, Grace Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Pages 124 - 125 (probably Ketchum School) Sept 17, 1923 - Jan 31, 1924 8 A Mine (Teachers) Arith. C.M.T. Brandt Comp. M.G. Masson Gram. M. L. Lockwood 8 A Bartos, Mildred M. Bell, Ruth M. E. (M. crossed thru) Blankenship, Etta M. Booth, Vivian T. Braun, Charlotte V. Deane, Mildred E. Havenner, Catherine P. Havenner, Mabel E. Hawkins, M. Barbara Inscoe, Vera M. Lawrence, Dorothy M. Lederer, Dorothy L. Mushake, Katherine G. Soper, Ethel Talbert, Marie E. Teates, Alice L. Thorne, Clyta (Ayta) M. Bartz, Mary Fitzsimmons, Myrtle Hazel, Evelyn Francis, Kenneth Herbert, Wm. Hering, Fredrick P. Martin, Chas. J. Myers, Robert S. Rohey, Geo. W. 8 B Baker, Grace Baldwin, Marion Booth, Mary Campbell, Helen Chase, Louise Deane, Alice Fastnaught, Bessie Lee, Ethel Peaper, Katherine Rankin, Esther Thomas, Bessie Traband, Emily Brazerol, Clarence DeMent, Elwood Hudson, Lee Maher, Ralph Tanbe, Theo. 7 A Ager, Geo. Baldwin, Russell Beall, Howard Blankenship, Wilbur Buckley, Elmer Clark, Lenard Coxen, Owen Davis, Arthur Donaldson, Wm. Easter, Lyman Finotti, Donald Francis, Earl Gousha, James Green, Franklin Jones, Lester Miller, Max Miller, Nathan Miller, Wilbur Pennella, Joseph Pitcher, Raymond Pyles, Willmore Ricker, Frank Wahl, Edwin McDonald, Frank Cousins, Maude Cox, Catherine Gibbons, Alice Gibbons, Helen Hicks, Eliz. Reilly, Eliz. Saidman, Rose Snyder, Lou Tolson, Anne Tucker, Lucile Sydnor, May 7 B Benhoff, Wm. Hartman, Clarence Thorne, Llyod Cadell, Marie Jameson, Mary Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Page 122 - 123 Feb. 1. 1923 - June 20, 1923 Ketcham School Departmental Arith. Mine - 8 B (Teachers) History Miss Graves Arth. C. M. T. B. Gram. M. L. Lockwood Comp. M. G. Masson (Students) 8 - B Brazerol, Clarence I. Buckley, Wm. Marvin Fastnaught, Robert E. Hall, Jack M. Harris, Francis Hudson, C. Lee King, Wm. J. Maher, Ralph J. McGrath, Chas. Taylor, Wm. Stanley Weitzel, Geo. D. Wenger, Fredrick J. Wester, Horace V. Bailey, Evelyn L. Beall, Dorothy I. Booth, Mary H. Carter, Rebecca L. Farren, Llewellyn M. Hammer, B. Violet Higgs, Florence E. Herbacher, Edna L. King, Evelyn M. Kuffler, Grace A. Poston, C. Marie Rock, Eva T. 8 A Butler, Earl Herbert, Wm. Martin, Chas. Myers, Robert Robey, Geo Baldwin, Marion Blankenship, Etta M. Booth, Vivian Campbell, Helen Chase, Louise Deane, Alice Farmer, Beulah Fastnaught, Bessie Hawkins, Barbara Hazel, Evelyn Hoyle, Helen Inscoe, Vera Lederer, Dorothy Linger, Dorothy Lee, Ethel Nash, Cornelia Peaper, Katherine Plitt, Willis Rankin, Esther Thomas, Bessie Traband, Emily Wollridge, Edna 7 B Greer, Allen Leapley, Edgar Purcell,Vernon Baker, Grace Bartos, Mildred Bell, Ruth Boblitz, Ruth Cassell, Annie Casseen, Ethel Catore, Lily Deane, Mildred Jones, Vangie Lawrence, Dorothy Mushake, Katherine Ried, Mary Robey (Rohey), Marjorie Soper, Ethel Teates, Alice Wester, Anna 7 A Benhoff, Wm. Blankenship, Wilbur Buckley, Elmer Donaldson, Wm. Finoth, Donald Gousha, James Hartman, Clarence Hayes, Emmett Hennings, Geo. Jones, Lester Pitcher, Raymond Pyles, Willmore Reinhardt, Walter Streitberger, Carl Thorne, Lloyd Kerry, Fredrick Cadell, Marie Gibbons, Alice Gibbons, Helen Hicks, Elizabeth Jameson, Mary Johnson, Margaret Morton, Evelyn Rock, Viola Sydnor, Mae Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Pages 120 - 121 Ketcham School Sept 18, 1922 - June 1923 Appointed Sept. 20, 1922 8 Grade Departmental - Arithmetic Mine (Clara Brandt) - 8 B Teachers M.E. Graves - Prin. C.M.T. Brandt 8 B M. L. Lockwood 8 A M. G. Masson 7 A-B Algebra - Miss Graves Arith.- C.M.T.B. Gram. - Miss Lockwood Comp - Miss Masson 8 B Baxter, Reuben R.(P.) DeMent, Elwood N. Buckley, Marvin W. Kimmerling, Whm. E. King, Wm. J. Melsrath, Chas. A. Rankin, Williard T. Ricker, Harold W. Snyder, Roger E. Taylor, Adam Wester, Horace Allen, Florence M. Connick, Naomi E. Davis, Ruby W. Cornette, Ruth B. Duvall, Dorothy D. Harland, Ordell P. (R.) Harmon, Jeanette Hilt, Esther Hoopes, Julia Kemper, Viola C. Myers, Marguerite Nolte, Martha E. Thorne, A. Blanche P. Walther, Pauline C. 7 A Allen Green Lester Jones Edgar Leapley Frank McDonald Vernon Purcell Walter Rhinehart Grace Baker Mildred Bartos Ruth Bell Margaret Blum Ruth Boblitz Annie Cassell Mildred Deane Dorothy Lawrence Evelyn Morton Katherine Mushake Mary Reed Marjorie Robey Alice Teates Marguerite Purl Geraldine Barwick Ethel Soper Anna Wester 7 B Earl Butler Robert Myers George Robey Etta M. Blankenship Vivian Booth Helen Campbell Ethel Casseen Lily Dattore Dorothy Davis Evelyn Hazel Helen Hoyle Vera Inscoe Vangie Jones Dorothy Lederer Marion McGill Katherine Peaper Emily Traband Esther Rankin 8 A Evelyn Bailey Marion Baldwn Dorothy Beall Mary Booth Rebecca Carter Louise Chase Alice Deane Beaulah Farmer Llewellyn Farran Violet Hammer Barbara Hawkins Edna Hubacher Evelyn King Grace Kuffler (Kuppler) Ethel Lee Dorothy Linger Cornelia Nash Willis Plitt Marie Posten Eva Rock Bessie Fastnaught Edna Woolridge Florence Higgs 8 A Clarence Brazerol Robert Fastnaught Jack Hall Frances Harris William Herbert Lee Hudson Ralph Maher Charles Martin Stanley Taylor Royce Triwolla George Weitzel Fredrick Wengert Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Pages 116 -117 ? (blank) Pages 118 - 119 Sept 20, 1915- June 21, 1916 Grade 7 A & B (teachers for entire school) Mr. H. M. Johnson Ebert 8 Brandt 7 Thompson 6 Connell 5-6 Stemile 5 Taylor 4 Condon 3-4 Green 3 White 3 Wharton 2 Crook 2 Hayse 1-2 Lacy 1 Wells Kg. (kindergarten) Robertson Kg. (kindergarten) (students) Elbert Cook Vernon Corder John Green Raymond Martin Elmer Miller Wiley Porter Dalphens Smoot Ralph Talbert Louis Oswald Milton Fadeley Norman Hayes William Hill Martin McDonald Frank Riley John Simmons Rhipip Stebbing James Williams Elmer Owens Lawrence Owens Frank Jones Theodore Hoart Laure Dennison Wilson Hoag Lester Howard Marion Moffett Geroge Schwinn Gordon Schwinn Willard Mentiges Estelle Brown Edith Burton Caroline Cleeves Lillie Corder Ethel Loveless Madeline Meyers Lottie (Lida) Moore Sarah Schneider Helen Selby Neale Sweeney Evelyn Wilson Edna Blaine Mattie Coughlan Elsie Cowan Grace Glueck Helen Jacobs Glady McNabbs Dora Pumphrey Anna Barkanda (my great aunt) Laura Barnes Helen Cook Thelma Dennison Elsie Marshall Helen Sanders Viola Tennyson Zelma Allen http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/TeachersJournal.html Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Pages 114-115 1909-1910 Grades 6-7 (teachers) Miss Ebert 8 Brandt 7 Thompson 6 Simpson 5 Lockwood 5 Caskey 4 Pyles 3 Beck 3 Taylor 2-3 Baurman 2 Green 1 Hutchins 1 White 1 Chas Dean John Dean Howell Dean Ed. EdNeale Louis Miller George Strobel Alvin Preil Cecil Hoag Augustus Tice Robert Cowan Leon Joyce Ed. Kidwell Trank Langley Shirley Wright Ed. Padgett Norman Beyer Ross Cook Justin Cox Chas. Eaton Ralph Fillius Frank Harlow John Hettenkeunner Harold Mattingly Ira McMillian Chas. McNamara Millard Nalley Joseph Parker Walter Newton Basil Somers August Bender Donald Davis Alvin Jeffers Aallen Simmons Lester Simpson Page 115 1909-1910 Emeline Bishop Rose Clark Sadie Flowers Ruth Guigon Barbara Hind Ruth Van Sise Amanda Wright Marie Cowan Alpha Gead -married Tippets April 24, 1911 Maude Kelley Elsie Haas Bertha Bender Neale Biggs Louise Burch Alice Dodge Virginia Fowler Josephine Guigon Ida Howard Theresa Hurgerford Iona Mullikin Mary Cook Elizaida Green Laura Juergens Irene Pee Ruth Smith Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

(note: When I finish transcribing and posting all the pages of the Teacher's Journal I will add all the names mentioned in the journal to my search engine for my webpages and you will be able to search for every mention of your ancestor, however that may be a few weeks from now) Page 113 My 22nd School Sept 1908-June 1909 6a Elmer Perrygo Wendell Walters Harry B. Sweeney Milton Fillius Paymond Pumphrey August Bender Donald Davis Philip McKenna Allen Simmons Frank Pearson James Webster Wilson Havenner Marian Cox Florence Torrey Elzaida Green Alice Sweeney Annie Keys Emma Schultz Geneva Foote Ruth Hettenkemmer Susie Dean - married Tabita Reinburg Mary Simmons Annie Haas 6b Hildred Dennison Christina Kelly - married Harry Cowan Ralph Reinhart ? Harry Butterfield Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

Page 112 6-7 Grade Sept 23, 1907 My 21st School Mr. Lowe 7-8 Miss Ebert 7-8 Miss Douglas 5 Miss Simpson 4 Miss Lockwood 3 Miss Baurman 2 Miss Plyes 1 Miss White 1 Miss Green 1 7a Nona Cox Thaddeus Devall Ruth Allen Albert Sweeney Edna Emmons Clara Thierbach Gladys Wright Ella Payne - died June 14, 1908 Edward Dunn 6a John Jnergens (Juergens) Eva Alvey Walter Fowler Mabel Weigert - married Chas. Barrett Eunice Fadeley (Fadelex) Leila Kidwell Harry Cowan Alice Hayes Charles Dennison June Cramer Minnie Kidwell Hildred Dennison Clarence McCormick Rose Goodwin John Green Elmer Willett Paull Miller Paul Green 6b Everett Gordon Maude Dean - married 1910 Harry Miller Blanche Langley Harry Butterfield Harry Gutridge George Edelin Gladys Owen (Umen) Christine Kelly - married Ralph Reinhart Lillian Dean Trisha Swallows Carden Nashville, Tennessee G-ma@home.com http://www.tcarden.com/tree/ensor/

This is copied from: Cactusflrw@aol.com; To: MDWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com 8th Grade Education? Remember when our grandparents, great-grandparents, and such stated that they only had an 8th grade education? Well check this out. Could any of us have passed the 8th grade in 1895? This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 in Salina, KS. USA. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smokey Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, KS and reprinted by the Salina Journal. 8th Grade Final Exam Salina, KS -1895 Grammar (Time, 1 hour) 1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters. 2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications. 3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph. 4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run. 5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case. 6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation. 7 -10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours) 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold? 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts./bushel, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare? 4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals? 5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per meter? 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. 9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods? 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt. U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided. 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe? 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607; 1620;1800;1849;1865 Orthography (Time, 1 hour) 1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic, orthography, etymology, syllabication? 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals? 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'. 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule. 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. 7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, sup 8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last. 9. Use the following correctly in sentences, cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication. Geography (Time, 1 hour) 1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas? 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? 4. Describe the mountains of North America. 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Heca, Yukno, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco. 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each. 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude? 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers. 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give the inclination of the earth. Gives the saying "she/he only had an 8th grade education" (when speaking of an early 20th century person) a whole new meaning. Hope you enjoyed it! Dottie Engemann Ormond Beach, FL

Hi, Ruth. I'm afraid you've entered a very difficult and frustrating area for researchers in the Old Methodist Burying Ground in Georgetown. I will copy this response to everyone on the list in case there are others who are interested in this topic. The Old Methodist Burying Ground was established in 1808 by the Montgomery Street Methodist Church (the predecessor of what is now known as Dumbarton United Methodist Church). At that time, about 2/3rds of the graves were set aside for white parishioners and their families; the other third for African-Americans. In 1813, the African-American members of the congregation separated from Montgomery Street and formed their own congregation, now known as Mount Zion United Methodist Church. In the 1840s, the Female Union Band Society purchased property adjacent to the Methodist cemetery. FUBS was composed mostly of members of Mount Zion. In 1849, Oak Hill Cemetery opened adjacent to the Methodist & FUBS cemeteries. White interments continued in the Methodist cemetery until after the Civil War, but more and more parishioners went into Oak Hill, and a number of white graves were disinterred and the remains moved, mostly to Oak Hill. In 1879, Dumbarton leased the Methodist burial ground to Mt. Zion for $1 per year plus upkeep of the property. From that time until interments ceased in 1950, the Methodist and FUBS properties were "merged" in the public mind, and the two graveyards jointly became known as the Mt. Zion Cemetery and all interments were of African-Americans. Between 1950 and the late 1970s, the property was pretty well abandoned. The two churches collaborated on a major cleanup and restoration effort in about 1976, and the property looks pretty good these days. Unfortunately, there are no records of the burials in the Methodist cemetery (I can't speak for the FUBS burials). I have done extensive research on this property and have documented as many burials as I can, but a complete recovery of the names is out of my reach, at least for the present. During the cleanups of the late 1970s, Paul Sluby set out to document what he saw on tombstones at that time. Unfortunately, many tombstones had already either been stolen or weathered beyond recognition before Paul got involved. There are also a number of errors in his transcriptions due to the poor condition of the tombstones by that time. I do have a copy of his book and I will do the lookup for you and respond to you, Ruth, privately about that. However, just because an ancestor does not appear in Paul's book does not mean they are not buried there. I wish I could offer a more positive outlook for recovering information about burials in that cemetery, but after a decade of research, I am not optimistic. For anyone who would like more information about the cemetery, I recommend two publications. I devoted a chapter in my book, Many Witnesses: A History of Dumbarton United Methodist Church 1772-1990, to the cemetery. I reported everything I was able to discover about the history of the cemetery in that chapter. If you'd like a copy, I can sell you one for $25 (including postage). Please email me privately. The other source on the cemetery is Pauline Gaskins Mitchell's article in a back issue of Records of the Columbia Historical Society. Anyone who wishes to check that article, please email me privately and I'll give you the full citation. I hope this is helpful. Jane Donovan

Researching JAMES HARBAN who married JANE SIMPSON in 1845 and lived in Howard County, MD. They moved to DC around 1885. Interested in hearing from descendants of any of their children: WILLIAM T. HARBAN, JAMES H. HARBAN, CHARLES R. HARBAN, WALTER S. HARBAN, LUIS LEE HARBAN. Walter S. Harban and Luis Lee Harban were both dentists in 1910. Any information appreciated. Linda Simpson Davidson

Dear List, Does anyone have a copy of Paul Sluby's book The Old Methodist Burying Ground, Georgetown, Washington, DC. I went to my local library to see about an inter-library loan and was told they don't do inter-library loans on genealogy books! Can't imagine what they have against us! I'm looking for my 3rd g-grandfather, John Hilton, who was originally buried at Holmead's Burial Ground in 1856. He is not in Sluby's book on Holmead. I thought he might have been moved to The Old Methodist Burying Ground as he lived in Georgetown and two of his granddaughters were married in Dumbarton Avenue United Methodist which established the church. Any ideas? I have checked Glenwood and Oak Hill and he doesn't appear in their records. Thanks Ruth Fleak Researching: Hilton, Rowzee, Braddock, Morsell, Smith, Cady, Turner, Rowe, Thompson, Cox in DC,MD,VA

In a message dated 8/23/01 7:02:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WashingtonDC-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Cedar Hill Cemetery, Suitland, Maryland >> << I guess it's not the place, it's the people you deal with. >> MY 2 CENTS -- Amen to that!!! On Aug 1st, I called long distance to Cedar Hill for information about the cause of death, funeral director, any family names, and grave location for a maternal great aunt buried there. Mr. Robert Anthony said he'd have to look it up and would call me back. He took my name and number but did not return my call. I called again on Aug 23. This time Elizabeth listened to my request and said "they don't keep those statistics." I asked if Cedar Hill didn't have cemetery cards. She retrieved the card at my request and provided the cause of death, funeral director and grave site information. She seemed stressed by my request and repeated the "not keeping those statistics" statement a few times. I still don't know what she was referring to. Anyway, I can't say it was a great interaction but I was successful in obtaining the grave location. Good luck to anyone who has to deal with them. Dottie Engemann Ormond Beach, FL

Oak Hill is not friendly to those who show up without having previously made an appointment. They are very busy and would appreciate some consideration of their time. Many researchers just show up and expect prompt help. If they are busy with a funeral they don't have the staff available to give anyone that help. Just be sure to call ahead and make an appointment. They are even nicer if you make a donation to the cemetery. (My one time $25 has gone a long way over the years to get me information and their newsletters.) They also have strict rules about no cameras on the grounds, which they say is due to the fact that many of the stones were expensively specially made and are not to be copied. Hours are 9 AM - 4:30 PM, Monday - Friday Closed National Holidays Sue Dotson Buzzybee@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Fleak" <rpfleak@bellsouth.net> To: <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] CEMETERY COMMENTS > Let me echo the praise given to the staff at Glenwood. I have visited twice > and was given full use of their card files and ledgers. The gentlemen > in the office were busy the entire time I was there but I was never made to > feel I was in the way or a nuisance. I arrived by taxi on my first visit and > one gentleman in the office offered to call me a cab when my visit was over! > > On my next visit to Washington, DC I want to visit Oak Hill. I looked up the > grave sites through the LDS microfilm and I'm hoping the office will at > least provide me with a map. I've heard they are not too friendly and not > open on weekends. Is this accurate? > > Ruth Parrish Fleak > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

Don Secor wrote: > A responder, Dottie, gave me a direction to go....so here goes! > Any one with access to DC Police records - Would U check policeman > rosters for this man...supposedly a DC policeman sometime after 1917. > Also anyone with access to Wonder Bread employee records back in the > early 1900s for this man. > Further, can anyone tell me what or where "Twining City" is in DC? > Don > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 http://www.washingtondc.gov/neigh_ciz/ward7.htm � -- from:D.L.M.FOX UPDATED JULY 29,2001 http://sites.netscape.net/INVESTIGATORFOX http://www.ancestry.com/main.htm?sourceid=00289336853522699155 �

A responder, Dottie, gave me a direction to go....so here goes! Any one with access to DC Police records - Would U check policeman rosters for this man...supposedly a DC policeman sometime after 1917. Also anyone with access to Wonder Bread employee records back in the early 1900s for this man. Further, can anyone tell me what or where "Twining City" is in DC? Don