Susan, The index of DC Deaths from 1916 to 1929 is on film # 1994621 at the Family History Center of the Mormons. Jack

"If you haven't already, you might want to check out their website at www.congressionalcemetery.org for obituaries. Bill" First of all I want to thank William/Bill Boswell for the information about the Congressional Cemetery site. While checking some of my surnames on it I found my great-great-great grandmother who I thought had lived and died in VA. The record not only informed me of her death but also the name of her widowed daughter's new husband which led to finding them all on the D.C. census. I will be contacting the D.C. Vital Records in hope that they have the death certificate from 1887. This leads me to a question for the list. Has anyone ever dealt with D.C. Vital Records in an attempt to get a death certificate based on the 10 year census span? I have discovered that my great grandfather is listed on the 1920 D.C. census but on the 1930 D.C. census his wife is listed as a widow. I honestly am not sure how to discover when in that 10 year span he died other than paying the Vital Records department to search for it - I'm not even sure if they offer such a service or what the cost would be. All the other death certificates that I have requested I have at least had an approximate year and paid $12.00 for the copy. I do know that the D.C. library will not search the newspaper microfilms for an obituary without a specific date of death - and I have no idea which cemetery in which he would have been buried. Any suggestions??? Thank you, Susan McIntyre Michigan

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Annie, My grandfather was on the DC Police force in the early 1900s. The Archieves has employment records for the police and will send you a copy. I ordered a set which included when he applied for employment up until he retired in 1932. It was a little expensive, $75.00, but well worth it because I did not know much about my grandparents. You can apply to the Archieves for an application. Eileen in South Carolina annie wrote: > Happy Fourth Everyone > > Just wondering if anyone knows about the DC Police - I have an ancestor, Alphonso Vermillion - his death certificate says that he was employed by the "Capital Police" - I've researched the "Capitol" police and that came up empty. I know for sure that his son, Howard, was a detective in DC. My thought is that there may be pictures. I know the precinct where his son worked - but is there a central place to contact? > > Thank You > > Annie Harris > DC Surnames = Vermillion, Hunter, Harrison > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Annie: I don't have any information on Alphonso, but did you know there are quite a few people with the name Vermillion buried at Congressional Cemetery? If you haven't already, you might want to check out their website at www.congressionalcemetery.org for obituaries. Bill -----Original Message----- From: annie [mailto:thatgrl@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:31 PM To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] DC Police Happy Fourth Everyone Just wondering if anyone knows about the DC Police - I have an ancestor, Alphonso Vermillion - his death certificate says that he was employed by the "Capital Police" - I've researched the "Capitol" police and that came up empty. I know for sure that his son, Howard, was a detective in DC. My thought is that there may be pictures. I know the precinct where his son worked - but is there a central place to contact? Thank You Annie Harris DC Surnames = Vermillion, Hunter, Harrison ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Happy Fourth Everyone Just wondering if anyone knows about the DC Police - I have an ancestor, Alphonso Vermillion - his death certificate says that he was employed by the "Capital Police" - I've researched the "Capitol" police and that came up empty. I know for sure that his son, Howard, was a detective in DC. My thought is that there may be pictures. I know the precinct where his son worked - but is there a central place to contact? Thank You Annie Harris DC Surnames = Vermillion, Hunter, Harrison

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Here is a link that offers information on obtaining Vital Records from D.C. http://vitalrec.com/dc.html I had recently requested two death certificates from them and when I had not received them after 2 months I contacted them to find out if there was a problem. The gentleman that I spoke to was very helpful - he was able to check and verify that their records showed that nothing had been sent and suggested that I send him a copy of my previous request and a copy of the money order that had been included (I had already verified that it had been cashed). Once they received the copies showing that I had a valid claim they pulled the records and I received them within 2 weeks. Dealing with the "divorce records" is another story... Good Luck, Susan McIntyre Carol Baldi wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know if I can send to the DC archives for a copy of a marriage license if I do not know the date of marriage? I can put it within a 2-3 year period of time in the early 1900s. > > Also, does anyone know the cost? > > Thank you, > > Carol > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Most of the earlier marriages are in Marriage Records Index by Pippenger & Provine.They start w/ 1858 thru 10/1885. I don't know if someone has done them after that?? The Superior Court at 500 Indiana Ave.NW-DC-- takes care of Marriage and Divorce Records but the people are not vary cooperative in getting records for you. They only accept money orders($10) rather than checks so there is a problem because you have to get a money order. I have been trying to get a Marriage record for my Grandfather for several years(still haven't received one yet)-they are interested in receiving the money orders but seemly are not interested in doing much research . Good luck. Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Baclem5656@aol.com> To: <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:56 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] DC Archives > In the recent discussion of marriage records someone mentioned the location > of the marriage records at the Archives. Is there any information as to > where other records can be found in the building. > > I'm interested in going to the DC Archives to research, but I have been > discouraged by the various discussions on the list as to the limited number > of employees/volunteers to assist you. If I could go with some idea of where > the information I might be looking for was to be found, it might be a more > rewarding trip. > > Barbara > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hello, Does anyone know if I can send to the DC archives for a copy of a marriage license if I do not know the date of marriage? I can put it within a 2-3 year period of time in the early 1900s. Also, does anyone know the cost? Thank you, Carol

My sister has placed a copy of my great grandparents marriage certificate on line at WWW.FAMILYTREEMAKER.com If anyone would like to see it . It is not the official document that you are speaking of as far as I can tell but it is signed by witnesses and the minister. It is too fancy to be produced by the town clerk. The certificate is for Lillian M.Taylor and Luther Kellam Fish. Incidently if anyone knows anything about Lillians parents Rebecca Mouldon and George W Taylor a clerk at the post office, Avenue J or K I would be very greatful. George died about 1919. Linda

In the recent discussion of marriage records someone mentioned the location of the marriage records at the Archives. Is there any information as to where other records can be found in the building. I'm interested in going to the DC Archives to research, but I have been discouraged by the various discussions on the list as to the limited number of employees/volunteers to assist you. If I could go with some idea of where the information I might be looking for was to be found, it might be a more rewarding trip. Barbara

I recently looked up the marriage license of my ggrandparents issued Nov. 1, 1870. The space in which the person who performed the marriage ceremony is supposed to fill in his name and affiliation was blank. This was also true of many other certificates on the film. Can anyone tell me why this is so. I can't believe that so many people obtained marriage licenses and then didn't have a ceremony. Or did they consider themselves married by obtaining the license? Thanks for any help with this. Charles _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

Can anyone enlighten me on the best way to approach searching for a DC marriage license? The approximate year of marriage was 1934 and I have both parties full names and birthdates. It is possible for me to physically visit the DC Archives, but I wanted to have a "battle plan" before going. Thanks in advance for any advice. - Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Harry Rudd [mailto:harry.rudd@mail.wdn.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:39 AM To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license I think the form was actually a two part form - top and bottom. The bottom part was the confirmation of the actual ceremony and date and was supposed to be sent back to the gov't office within so many days so that the records were complete. The books of marriage records at the DC archives have both the application and the completed form. Harry > My family has had the same discussion..."Did they NOT have a ceremony after > obtaining the license??" I think that we finally concluded that there must > have been two copies of the certificate--one kept on file & one given to the > espoused couple, with the member of the clergy who officiated signing ONLY > the copy in the couple's possession. A very few, very precise clergy > probably went back to the government office to sign that copy as well. > > Does anyone have an ancestor's copy of a DC marriage license to confirm if > there were indeed two copies?? > > Frank Dunnigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: charles holtzback <choltzb@hotmail.com> > To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:58 AM > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license > > > >I recently looked up the marriage license of my ggrandparents issued Nov. > 1, > >1870. The space in which the person who performed the marriage ceremony is > >supposed to fill in his name and affiliation was blank. This was also true > >of many other certificates on the film. Can anyone tell me why this is so. > I > >can't believe that so many people obtained marriage licenses and then > didn't > >have a ceremony. Or did they consider themselves married by obtaining the > >license? > >Thanks for any help with this. > > > >Charles > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 *********************************************************************** This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information. If you believe you have received the message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. ***********************************************************************

I think the form was actually a two part form - top and bottom. The bottom part was the confirmation of the actual ceremony and date and was supposed to be sent back to the gov't office within so many days so that the records were complete. The books of marriage records at the DC archives have both the application and the completed form. Harry > My family has had the same discussion..."Did they NOT have a ceremony after > obtaining the license??" I think that we finally concluded that there must > have been two copies of the certificate--one kept on file & one given to the > espoused couple, with the member of the clergy who officiated signing ONLY > the copy in the couple's possession. A very few, very precise clergy > probably went back to the government office to sign that copy as well. > > Does anyone have an ancestor's copy of a DC marriage license to confirm if > there were indeed two copies?? > > Frank Dunnigan > > -----Original Message----- > From: charles holtzback <choltzb@hotmail.com> > To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:58 AM > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license > > > >I recently looked up the marriage license of my ggrandparents issued Nov. > 1, > >1870. The space in which the person who performed the marriage ceremony is > >supposed to fill in his name and affiliation was blank. This was also true > >of many other certificates on the film. Can anyone tell me why this is so. > I > >can't believe that so many people obtained marriage licenses and then > didn't > >have a ceremony. Or did they consider themselves married by obtaining the > >license? > >Thanks for any help with this. > > > >Charles > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi, Nancy The marriage records are in bound volumes along the back wall. They are in chronological order w/an index to each volume in the front of the volume. Good luck. Frank Dunnigan -----Original Message----- From: Bice, Nancy <NABice@venable.com> To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license >Can anyone enlighten me on the best way to approach searching for a DC marriage license? The approximate year of marriage was 1934 and I have both parties full names and birthdates. It is possible for me to physically visit the DC Archives, but I wanted to have a "battle plan" before going. Thanks in advance for any advice. - Nancy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry Rudd [mailto:harry.rudd@mail.wdn.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:39 AM >To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license > > >I think the form was actually a two part form - top and bottom. The bottom part was the confirmation of the actual ceremony and date and >was supposed to be sent back to the gov't office within so many days so that the records were complete. The books of marriage records >at the DC archives have both the application and the completed form. > >Harry > >> My family has had the same discussion..."Did they NOT have a ceremony after >> obtaining the license??" I think that we finally concluded that there must >> have been two copies of the certificate--one kept on file & one given to the >> espoused couple, with the member of the clergy who officiated signing ONLY >> the copy in the couple's possession. A very few, very precise clergy >> probably went back to the government office to sign that copy as well. >> >> Does anyone have an ancestor's copy of a DC marriage license to confirm if >> there were indeed two copies?? >> >> Frank Dunnigan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: charles holtzback <choltzb@hotmail.com> >> To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:58 AM >> Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license >> >> >> >I recently looked up the marriage license of my ggrandparents issued Nov. >> 1, >> >1870. The space in which the person who performed the marriage ceremony is >> >supposed to fill in his name and affiliation was blank. This was also true >> >of many other certificates on the film. Can anyone tell me why this is so. >> I >> >can't believe that so many people obtained marriage licenses and then >> didn't >> >have a ceremony. Or did they consider themselves married by obtaining the >> >license? >> >Thanks for any help with this. >> > >> >Charles >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> go to: >> >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> >> > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >*********************************************************************** >This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or >privileged information. If you believe you have received >the message in error, please notify the sender by reply >transmission and delete the message without copying or >disclosing it. >*********************************************************************** > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

My family has had the same discussion..."Did they NOT have a ceremony after obtaining the license??" I think that we finally concluded that there must have been two copies of the certificate--one kept on file & one given to the espoused couple, with the member of the clergy who officiated signing ONLY the copy in the couple's possession. A very few, very precise clergy probably went back to the government office to sign that copy as well. Does anyone have an ancestor's copy of a DC marriage license to confirm if there were indeed two copies?? Frank Dunnigan -----Original Message----- From: charles holtzback <choltzb@hotmail.com> To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:58 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] marriage license >I recently looked up the marriage license of my ggrandparents issued Nov. 1, >1870. The space in which the person who performed the marriage ceremony is >supposed to fill in his name and affiliation was blank. This was also true >of many other certificates on the film. Can anyone tell me why this is so. I >can't believe that so many people obtained marriage licenses and then didn't >have a ceremony. Or did they consider themselves married by obtaining the >license? >Thanks for any help with this. > >Charles > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am interested in several families from the Tennallytown area of DC. My mothers birth certificate [1903] says Tennallytown, CD on it. Her maiden name was King. Her great grand father was Charles King born 1825, married 1st Amanda Kidwell. There is an Elias King on the 1850 census with a son Charles 26 in the household. I believe this could be Charles' father. The name of Elias' wife was Elizabeth. There is a marriage recorded in Montgomery Co. for an Elias King to an Elizabeth Thompson. 1819. Does anyone know anything about this couple? Margaret

I think its the site. Some of the type is small. Most of the online collections are in PDF format and the type is small. -----Original Message----- From: annie [mailto:thatgrl@attbi.com] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:50 PM To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] On line help I was able to find a great piece of history about my Great Grandmother's brother, Howard Milton Vermillion. Thank you William Boswell for posting the site about Congressional. Is it me - or is the print on that website way too small. I tried adjusting my screen - but I think it's the site. Other sites seem to work fine. Thanks again Annie Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Boswell" <whbos@att.net> To: <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] On line help > For starters, you might want to check to see if the person is buried at > Congressional Cemetery. It is the only cemetery website in D.C. with vast > resources on persons buried there. You can find them at > www.congressionalcemetery.org and select On-Line Collectons then select > Obituaries & Death Notices. You'd be surprised at how many ancestors you > might have buried at Congressional. Many I had been looking for are buried > there. > > If the person isn't buried there, you might want to email the D.C. Public > Library and see if they will look up the obituary for you. I'm not aware of > fees or this service at all since I always looked them up myself when I > lived in the D.C. area. > > Isn't the 1930 Census great? > > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa farrow-welker [mailto:tkfarrowwelker@msn.com] > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:07 PM > To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] On line help > > > Is anyone aware of on line death info for D.C? I have located a relative in > the 1930 census (age71) And do not know the best way to proceed. Any > advice is appreciated. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download > : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I was able to find a great piece of history about my Great Grandmother's brother, Howard Milton Vermillion. Thank you William Boswell for posting the site about Congressional. Is it me - or is the print on that website way too small. I tried adjusting my screen - but I think it's the site. Other sites seem to work fine. Thanks again Annie Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Boswell" <whbos@att.net> To: <WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] On line help > For starters, you might want to check to see if the person is buried at > Congressional Cemetery. It is the only cemetery website in D.C. with vast > resources on persons buried there. You can find them at > www.congressionalcemetery.org and select On-Line Collectons then select > Obituaries & Death Notices. You'd be surprised at how many ancestors you > might have buried at Congressional. Many I had been looking for are buried > there. > > If the person isn't buried there, you might want to email the D.C. Public > Library and see if they will look up the obituary for you. I'm not aware of > fees or this service at all since I always looked them up myself when I > lived in the D.C. area. > > Isn't the 1930 Census great? > > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa farrow-welker [mailto:tkfarrowwelker@msn.com] > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:07 PM > To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] On line help > > > Is anyone aware of on line death info for D.C? I have located a relative in > the 1930 census (age71) And do not know the best way to proceed. Any > advice is appreciated. Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download > : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >