Thanks all for the additional info on Marks marriages I didn't have. I will have to check some census data to confirm that some are actually the relatives in question. I feel a bit stupid missing the S. Kate Marks as being my Sarah C. Marks since I have a copy of that page of the book. Sometimes you can't see the forest because of all the trees in the way... Thanks for the genweb digital library address, I did not have that resource. Those were the 1853 addresses of my Andrew Marks and son Samuel A. H. Marks. I am really sorry there seems to be no connections with anyone on this list however. Chuck

Would anyone have info on Thomas H. ORTON & wife Anna (nee PENTON) who were married about 1848-49 in DC. A daughter, Minnie ORTON was born to them in DC in 1849. Thanks

I guess I should have worded that different, eh? Of course, the various Indian tribes were the original owners of the land and I thank you for bringing that to my attention!! I have a copy of the book by Bessie Gahn and it has been most helpful as she discusses both the Indian tribes and the Europeans. Thanks, Helen! Barb Price Researching: Burnes/Byrn/Gore/Hardy/Dowden/Allison/Phillips/More/Ashford/Neville/Orme/Loker /VanNess/Fleming/Brown/Fish/Ring/Hardin/Harding/Hoge/Hume/Holtzclaw/Hunsaker/H uber/Graham/Otterback/Fischback/Heimbach and many more....

I found the following listings in Dorothy Provine"s "District of Columbia Marriage Records 1870-1877". I furnished the first since you stated that Mary E. Marks marriage to ? Mann might have been a second marriage. The numbers following the names show the the volume and page of the Record of Marriages which are now located at the DC Archives. The L after the date of marriage indicates that only the license portion of the form was filled in, the marriage return filled in by the minister was not complete. Mann, Charles Addision Lee, Mary Elizabeth 30 June 1874 L 7:22 Todd, Edward Marks, S. Kate 3 June 1875 8:100

>any info on any of the marriages > time frame people > --------------- ---------------------------------------------- > early 1800s Andrew Marks - Julia A. ? > early 1800s Christiana Marks - ? Brown > 1848-1852 Daniel Simonds - Ann C. Marks ************************************************* > 1860-1880 Mary E. Marks - ? Mann (could be a second marriage) MANN, William D. [Col.] [6m] MARKS, Mary E. 07 JAN 1864 *6m= Trinity Meth. Church, Washington, D.C. by T.H.W. Monroe ****************************************************** > 1868-1876 Sarah C. Marks - ? Todd Todd, Edward Marks, S. Kate 3 Jun 1875 8:100 ******************************************************* Those are the ony two I could find. Hope this helps, Margy

Below are the DC area marriages I have not found any info on as of yet. If you have any info on any of the marriages or a connection to anyone listed, please contact me. time frame people --------------- ---------------------------------------------- early 1800s Andrew Marks - Julia A. ? early 1800s Christiana Marks - ? Brown 1848-1852 Daniel Simonds - Ann C. Marks 1860-1880 Mary E. Marks - ? Mann (could be a second marriage) 1868-1876 Sarah C. Marks - ? Todd Chuck (cwr4586@aol.com)

If you go to <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ussearch.htm> the USGenWeb Archives Project, from <www.USGenWeb.com>. Then choose DC, MD and VA and look for your surname. Below is one such items found there. Marks, Samuel, clerk Quartermaster's office, n side G s, btw 6 and 7 e. Marks, Andrew, blacksmith, s side E s, btw 6 and 7 e. Did you try Gendex? Good Luck, Helen > Below are the DC area marriages I have not found any info on as of yet. If > you have any info on any of the marriages or a connection to anyone listed, > please contact me. > > time frame people > --------------- ---------------------------------------------- > early 1800s Andrew Marks - Julia A. ? > early 1800s Christiana Marks - ? Brown > 1848-1852 Daniel Simonds - Ann C. Marks > 1860-1880 Mary E. Marks - ? Mann (could be a second marriage) > 1868-1876 Sarah C. Marks - ? Todd > > Chuck (cwr4586@aol.com) > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Here is one great source for books: <http://www.genealogybookshop.com/index.htm>. Do a search on <www.google.com> for other genealogical book source. Helen Eileen Gibson wrote: > Where can you get Gahn's booklet? > Eileen > > Helen West wrote: > > > The Original Land Owners of Washington DC, of course were the various > > Indian tribes. The first Europeans are listed in a wonderful little > > booklet Original Patentees of Land at Washington Prior to 1700, by > > Bessie M. Gahn. It was first published in 1936. In 1998, the booklet was > > reprinted by Clearfield Publishing. > > It list names, the first maps of DC, and in some cases Folder numbers > > in the Maryland State Archives. Virginia Archives have some information > > also. The price is modest for Gahn's booklet and I would urge anyone > > interested in DC area history, to purchase it. > > I will, of course, do look-ups. > > Helen > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Where can you get Gahn's booklet? Eileen Helen West wrote: > The Original Land Owners of Washington DC, of course were the various > Indian tribes. The first Europeans are listed in a wonderful little > booklet Original Patentees of Land at Washington Prior to 1700, by > Bessie M. Gahn. It was first published in 1936. In 1998, the booklet was > reprinted by Clearfield Publishing. > It list names, the first maps of DC, and in some cases Folder numbers > in the Maryland State Archives. Virginia Archives have some information > also. The price is modest for Gahn's booklet and I would urge anyone > interested in DC area history, to purchase it. > I will, of course, do look-ups. > Helen > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Contacted my son-in-law, who is a Brit and also worked at the Embassy in DC for many years, and received the following answer: The Embassy doesn't have records going back that far.  The only thing I can suggest is that they contact the Foreign Office in London who may have records going back that far in the archives.   Address is   Foreign and Commonwealth Office King Charles Street London  SW1 Hope this is of some help. Barbara  

The Original Land Owners of Washington DC, of course were the various Indian tribes. The first Europeans are listed in a wonderful little booklet Original Patentees of Land at Washington Prior to 1700, by Bessie M. Gahn. It was first published in 1936. In 1998, the booklet was reprinted by Clearfield Publishing. It list names, the first maps of DC, and in some cases Folder numbers in the Maryland State Archives. Virginia Archives have some information also. The price is modest for Gahn's booklet and I would urge anyone interested in DC area history, to purchase it. I will, of course, do look-ups. Helen

Here is a link I found on the WEB. <A HREF="http://www.weta.org/inside/press/index.php?n=0068">Click here: WETA Press Release: "SILVER SPRING: STORY OF AN AMERICAN SUBURB" EXAMINES COMMUNITY'S RICH PAST AND BRIGHT FUTURE</A> http://www.weta.org/inside/press/index.php?n=0068 "SILVER SPRING: STORY OF AN AMERICAN SUBURB" EXAMINES COMMUNITY'S RICH PAST AND BRIGHT FUTURE - From Mrs. K's Toll House to the Tastee Diner, Documentary Features Beloved Landmarks - > Hi Everyone: > > Got this information from my Aunt who sent information in. The > documentary "Silver Spring: Story of an American Suburb. It will be > shown Dec.8 at 7:00pm and Dec.11 at 8:30 pm. It will be shown on WETA > the PBS station in Md. > > Should be rather interesting. > > Take care, > Debi > > >

I just visited Steve Morse's homepage at http://home.pacbell.net/spmorse and see that he has added yet another genealogical tool to his one-step toolbox for us to use. This one searches the social security death index (SSDI) in one step. There are several other SSDI searches on the Internet so I was curious to see whether Steve's was any different. It turns out Steve's tool doesn't do the actual search but rather lets you select from a list of several search engines that are on the web. According to Steve's faq page, he did this because no one search engine supported all the search parameters. For example, some let you search by soundex but not by partial first name, and others allow just the opposite. With Steve's form you can use one search engine for the first search and then easily switch to another search engine for the next. Diane Jacobs New York

Debi, Will this be on Maryland Public Television (MPT), or just on WETA? Our PBS station in Salisbury is WCPB. Sue Dotson Buzzybee@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: steamdeb@cs.com To: WashingtonDC-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Film on Silver Spring Hi Everyone: Got this information from my Aunt who sent information in. The documentary "Silver Spring: Story of an American Suburb. It will be shown Dec.8 at 7:00pm and Dec.11 at 8:30 pm. It will be shown on WETA the PBS station in Md. Should be rather interesting. Take care, Debi ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Everyone: Got this information from my Aunt who sent information in. The documentary "Silver Spring: Story of an American Suburb. It will be shown Dec.8 at 7:00pm and Dec.11 at 8:30 pm. It will be shown on WETA the PBS station in Md. Should be rather interesting. Take care, Debi

Does the British Embassey have a web site where I can ask guestions about a employee back in the 1860's ? Bob Breuninger REB9772@aol.com

If you missed the 8am broadcast of this Minnesota Public Radio broadcast I hope that you will go to this link and listen to this informative, amazing and powerful broadcast regarding our countries poor people during the 1800's. Linda Crannell a/k/a "The Poorhouse Lady" has done a remarkable job of bringing this information to light genealogically and is interviewed along with Mary Broadwell another noted Genealogist from St. Paul, MN. The show will broadcast again this evening at 8pm via Minnesota Public Radio, but you can hear it now at http://news.mpr.org/programs/midday/listings/md20020729.shtml HOUR 2: (12 p.m.) Over the Hill to the Poor House Listen A new Mainstreet Radio documentary, Over the Hill to the Poor House examines the history of poor farms in Minnesota. We hear from people who worked there, relatives who trace their past to them and historians who are attempting to document them. The documentary is followed by an in studio discussion. Guest: Linda Crannell, who calls herself "The Poorhouse Lady." Mary Bakeman, a St. Paul genealogist. Related Links Over the Hill to the Poor House (MPR News) http://news.mpr.org/programs/midday/listings/md20020729.shtml Over the Hill to the Poor House July 29, 2002 By Dan Gunderson and Chris Julin, Minnesota Public Radio The American dream is freedom and financial security. But it's possible to lose everything. One day you have a job, a family, a house. Then there's an accident, an illness, a poor choice. One misfortune piles on another. One hundred years ago, if you lost your health, or your mind, you might have faced the poorhouse. It was a terrifying possibility - the slide from working, healthy person to the poorhouse, an anonymous death, and an unmarked grave. Thousands of people died in poorhouses, and today we park cars and grow corn on their graves. Poorhouses disappeared after World War II, but some people wonder how far we've come from a time when poor people were simply thrown away. History of the Poorfarm It was thought poorhouses would be a more efficient way of caring for the poor, thus reducing cost for local government. It was also anticipated that by forcing people to go to a less than pleasant place if they wanted public assistance, many poor could be discouraged from seeking help. Working at the Poorhouse The poorhouse is a mostly forgotten part of American history. But a few people still remember - especially those who worked in the poorhouses. Looking for Graves Many of the residents of Minnesota's poorhouses and poorfarms ended up in unmarked graves - in unmarked cemeteries that few people know about. Now some are trying to find and preserve those graves, to provide the dead the dignity they did not have in life. View photos of poorhouse cemeteries http://www.poorhousestory.com

Someone sent this to me because I had a StoneMason GGG-Uncle that worked on thge monument.You may find this interesting.M.Corridon NARA Records: 42.6.1 Records of the Officer in Charge of Construction Textual Records: Annual reports, 1878-87. Monthly reports, 1871- 88. Letters sent, 1871-88, with index. Letters received, 1875-88, with indexes and registers. Timebooks, 1871-88. Schedules of granite blocks and granite cutting and of other materials, 1871- 88. Miscellaneous fiscal and accounting records, 1873-88. Subject Access Terms: Alfred B. Mullett; Thomas Lincoln Casey. 42.13 RECORDS RELATING TO THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT 1833-1951 27 lin. ft. 42.13.1 Records of the Washington National Monument Society History: Organized, September 26, 1833, as a private association to build a monument to the memory of George Washington. Construction began, July 2, 1848, pursuant to a resolution of January 31, 1848 (9 Stat. 333), authorizing the Society to erect the Washington Monument on public grounds. After responsibility for construction was transferred to the Joint Commission for the Completion of the Washington Monument (SEE 42.13.2), 1876, the Society continued to solicit contributions and advised the Joint Commission. Textual Records: Proceedings, 1833-59, 1865-66, 1868, 1876-1934. Proceedings of the Board of Managers, 1834-58. Organizational and administrative records, 1833-87. Letters sent, 1858-83. Letters received, 1835-89, 1919-25. Letters received and other records concerning control of the Society and the monument by the "Know Nothing" Board of Managers, 1855-58. Letters received relating to membership, 1833-94, 1920-26, 1934-41; and employees, 1853-68. Correspondence, 1923-44. Records relating to design and construction, 1836-90; to repair and refacing, 1934-46; to the "Pope's Stone" and other donated memorial stones, 1849-1951; to contributions, gifts, and benefit performances, 1835-87; and to Congressional relations, 1836, 1860-80. Records of general and special agents Elisha Whittlesey, 1847-55; J.C. Ives, 1859-64; and Frederick L. Harvey, Sr., 1874-76. Records of the Building Committee, 1848-53; the Committee of Arrangements, 1848; and the Executive Committee for the centennial of the laying of the cornerstone, 1948. Correspondence and accounting records of the treasurer, 1834-92. Architectural and Engineering Plans (34 items): Washington Monument, 1836-ca. 1885. SEE ALSO 42.14. Photographic Prints (69 images): Society officers, ca. 1860-1900 (M, 7 images). The monument and its construction, 1879-1934, including some views of Washington, DC, n.d. (M, 62 images). SEE ALSO 42.15. Subject Access Terms: American Party; Great Falls Manufacturing Co.; Ladies Washington National Monument Society; Robert Mills. 42.13.2 Records of the Joint Commission for the Completion of the Washington Monument History: Established by an act of August 2, 1876 (19 Stat. 123), to direct and supervise completion of construction of the Washington Monument. Abolished by an act of October 2, 1888 (25 Stat. 553). Textual Records: Proceedings, 1876-88. Letters sent, 1876-88. Letters received, 1876-88, with a register. Building committee proceedings, 1879-84; and letters sent and received, 1879-88. Letters sent and received, schedules of marble and granite cutters and rubbers, and other records of the Engineer in Charge, 1876-92. Subject Access Terms: Thomas Lincoln Casey. 42.13.3 Records of the Joint Commission on the Dedication of the Monument History: Established by Joint Resolution 25 of May 13, 1884 (23 Stat. 272), to make arrangements for the dedication on February 21, 1885. Textual Records: Proceedings, 1884-85. Report of the commission, including texts of speeches and prayers given, 1885. 42.13.4 Records of the Engineer in Charge of the Monument History: An act of October 2, 1888 (25 Stat. 553), charged the Secretary of War with the custody, care, and protection of the monument. The Officer in Charge of Public Buildings and Grounds represented the Chief of Engineers as Engineer in Charge of the Monument. These responsibilities passed to the Director of Public Buildings and Public Parks of the National Capital and, in 1933, to the National Park Service. Textual Records: Diagrams of the movement of the plummet and related letters received, 1893-98. Readings of the plumb line, 1898-1921. Records of the custodian of the monument, including rough schedules for marble and granite and other records of construction, 1879-89; monthly reports of operations, 1888-1907; monthly schedules of visitors to the monument, 1888-1925; and records concerning the monument's maintenance, 1884-1922. 42.14 CARTOGRAPHIC RECORDS (GENERAL) 1797-1927 177 items Maps: Maps and building plans ("Numbered Map File"), 1797-1927, including those showing the City of Washington, Hamburgh, Carrollsburgh, and County of Washington outside the original City limits; Water Street, by Nicholas King, 1797; part of the City, by James Dermott, 1799; canal improvements near the Capitol and near the Washington Monument and White House; leasing of wharves; public reservations under control of the Office of Public Buildings and Public Grounds, 1894; Rock Creek Park; and the Treasury Building, old Department of State building, Old Jail, and Alexandria, DC (subsequently VA), courthouse. SEE Maps UNDER 42.2.2, 42.2.3, 42.3.3, and 42.3.5. SEE Architectural and Engineering Plans UNDER 42.2.5, 42.3.3, 42.3.4, 42.6.2, 42.12, and 42.13.1. 42.15 STILL PICTURES (GENERAL) SEE Photographic Prints UNDER 42.6.2, 42.7, and 42.13.1. SEE Photographic Prints and Negatives UNDER 42.12. SEE Photographic Prints and Glass Plate Negatives UNDER 42.3.3 and 42.3.4. SEE Glass Plate Negatives UNDER 42.3.1. SEE Lantern Slides UNDER 42.3.4. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Elizabeth Culhane <eculhane@rochester.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Washington Monument > Hi, > I was wondering if anyone on this list knows of a cornerstone on the Washington Monument (the original part). I understand that there is one and has names of the Building Committee listed. > > My great great great great uncle, Thomas Carbery, was the sixth mayor of DC and, I believe, he and and his brothers were on that committee. > > Would anyone know where I might find out this information? I was hoping to get a photo of it! I looked under the website for Washington Parks and didn't see any address to which to contact anyone. > Thanks, > Elizabeth Culhane > Fairport, New York > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, I was wondering if anyone on this list knows of a cornerstone on the Washington Monument (the original part). I understand that there is one and has names of the Building Committee listed. My great great great great uncle, Thomas Carbery, was the sixth mayor of DC and, I believe, he and and his brothers were on that committee. Would anyone know where I might find out this information? I was hoping to get a photo of it! I looked under the website for Washington Parks and didn't see any address to which to contact anyone. Thanks, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, New York

Hi, I know this is a big request, but I shall be unable to get down to DC anytime soon because of upcoming shoulder surgery. I have a Civil War Pension Record that I was hoping to copy. I have the application number, etc. Is anyone on this list going down that way and could possibly copy these for me? I shall be happy to pay for copying, etc. Thanks so very much! Best regards, Elizabeth Culhane Fairport, New York