Check NARA for a pension file and military record. These can be fascinating pieces of family history. One of mine was over 100 pages. You can go there in DC or e-mail for forms at NARA.gov. Aloha, Carol

I am trying to find out if a Mary E. (born c. 1847 in Maryland) and married to Francis Marion Donaldson (b. 1845 in Virginia), son of James W. (1819-1873) and Mary A. (Ball) Donaldson (1818-1897), was a Soper from Maryland. My Mary definitely lived in both DC and nearby Arlington, VA during her lifetime. On Mar 15, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Ann Chandler wrote: > I have a lot of Sopers ancestry, beginning in Prince Georges County; > some > migrated to the DC area. I would be happy to share what I have. Ann > in > Beaverton, Oregon [email protected] > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hello Sue Since our earlier correspondence, I have discovered that one of my collateral ancestors - Mary A Burger - died on 27 February 1932, and was buried at Glenwood cemetery. I notice that you have posted a couple of burial certificates from Glenwood on the web. I have two questions: 1. are those certificates available for search, or do you have to write to the cemetery? and 2. is it possible to find the names of other family members who are buried in the same grave? I would appreciate your advice about this. As always Philip Candy London *** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the NHSU WebShield Virus Scanner, but is not guaranteed free from viruses ***

If you go to google.com and type in Glenwood Cemetery, Washington, D.C. you can find their telephone number. They are extremely nice and very helpful. Just dealt with then last week over the phone. They accept contributions. Leta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Dotson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Burials at Glenwood Cemetery > Hi Philip, > > I went to Glenwood YEARS ago. The staff was extremely nice & helpful. > They let us have unlimited access to their files, burial books & records. > They made copies of anything that I wanted, and gave us a marked map to > help us locate the graves. The burials I have posted online are for my > own family members only. I have no other records, and I live 2-1/2 hrs > from the cemetery. > > I would suggest you contact them either by phone or mail to request what > you are looking for. > > Sue Dotson > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Phil Candy > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:27 PM > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Burials at Glenwood Cemetery > > > Hello Sue > > Since our earlier correspondence, I have discovered that one of my > collateral ancestors - Mary A Burger - died on 27 February 1932, and was > buried at Glenwood cemetery. > > I notice that you have posted a couple of burial certificates from > Glenwood on the web. I have two questions: > > 1. are those certificates available for search, or do you have to write > to the cemetery? and > 2. is it possible to find the names of other family members who are > buried in the same grave? > > I would appreciate your advice about this. > > As always > > Philip Candy > London > > > *** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are intended > only for the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this > e-mail and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately > by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. > > This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the NHSU WebShield Virus > Scanner, but is not guaranteed free from viruses *** > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Hi Philip, I went to Glenwood YEARS ago. The staff was extremely nice & helpful. They let us have unlimited access to their files, burial books & records. They made copies of anything that I wanted, and gave us a marked map to help us locate the graves. The burials I have posted online are for my own family members only. I have no other records, and I live 2-1/2 hrs from the cemetery. I would suggest you contact them either by phone or mail to request what you are looking for. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Candy To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:27 PM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Burials at Glenwood Cemetery Hello Sue Since our earlier correspondence, I have discovered that one of my collateral ancestors - Mary A Burger - died on 27 February 1932, and was buried at Glenwood cemetery. I notice that you have posted a couple of burial certificates from Glenwood on the web. I have two questions: 1. are those certificates available for search, or do you have to write to the cemetery? and 2. is it possible to find the names of other family members who are buried in the same grave? I would appreciate your advice about this. As always Philip Candy London *** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the NHSU WebShield Virus Scanner, but is not guaranteed free from viruses *** ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Do you have any information on a Nattie SOPER who was an artist? I have paintings that were done by her that came from my grandmother's home in Manassas, Va. I have never been able to find out anything about her. I assume Nattie was a nick-name. Anne Grandchildren are God's reward for not strangling your teenagers. -------Original Message------- From: Ann Chandler Date: 03/15/05 10:46:53 To: [email protected] Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Soper I have a lot of Sopers ancestry, beginning in Prince Georges County; some migrated to the DC area. I would be happy to share what I have. Ann in Beaverton, Oregon [email protected] ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I found a Military release paper on my husband Great Grandfather from what I can tell his name Edward O. Goodwin was entered into the Navy in 1865 and discharged 1866 he was 20 years old. I believe it said Fort Leon VA. , how could I maybe find out more? Appreciate any one help thanks so much................Cecile cecile/sis

Thanks Faye, for sharing the web page. Unfortunately my Amelia is not there, but the page may be helpful if I ever get any more information on her. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Faye To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Ball Families The following link is to Fauquier Co., Va and has info for two different families named Ball along with various other families. Hope this helps. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/faufam.htm Faye ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

The following link is to Fauquier Co., Va and has info for two different families named Ball along with various other families. Hope this helps. http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafauqui/faufam.htm Faye

I see you are related to the Balls. Any Betty Balls from Alexandria Va born approx 1840-50's and married into the English family? Brenda J Scott -----Original Message----- From: Susan Wheary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias Thanks for the information. My Ball family was predominantly in old Alexandria County, Virginia from about 1750 until fairly recently. Many of them spent at least part of their lives living in Washington. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Sue Dotson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias Go to www.google.com and enter ["Knights of Pythias" + "Washington, DC"] You will get numerous links regarding this organization in DC Btw, I see you are researching the surname Ball. I have been searching 13 years for the parents of my 3rd G-gmother, Amelia Ball. She was b. Abt. 1796 in Montgomery Co., MD and died Abt. 14 Mar 1850 in DC. She married Samuel Reintzel 25 Dec 1813 in DC. I would appreciate any help you could provide. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias Hi all, The obituary for my g-g-grandfather, James K. PROCTOR (d. 23 Oct 1874 at the age of 32, buried in Congressional Cemetery), indicates that he was with the Knights of Pythias and the Sons of Jonadab. Is there anywhere I can get information from these organizations about past members? Apparently the Knights of Pythias still exist, but I think the Sons of Jonadab may have been a temperance fraternity which probably doesn't. Susan Wheary Researching HELWIG, PROCTOR, SOPER, ROBINSON, BALL, CATHELL in Washington DC. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&ta rgetid=5429 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I have a lot of Sopers ancestry, beginning in Prince Georges County; some migrated to the DC area. I would be happy to share what I have. Ann in Beaverton, Oregon [email protected]

Somewhere in an ancestor's civil war pension packet there was a reference to Washington Sands. During the Civil War was there a military encampment there or near there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, Brenda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:43 AM Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] TB Hospital in Washington DC > Washington Sands is in Takoma Park, MD > > Brenda J Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:36 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] TB Hospital in Washington DC > > There used to be a TB hospital on Glenn Dale Road in Glenn Dale, Prince > > George's County, MD, which is not far from Washington, DC. I know it's > been > closed for many, many years but remember in being open in my lifetime. > I think > that people from Washington, DC, might have been sent there for > treatement. > My husband said he believes it was originally called Glenn Dale > Sanitarium > but the name was changed, possiblly to Washington Sanitarium. > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Did you try the Washington(DC) Historical Society? MLK library is full of information, but you do better if you live in the area and can actually go there and do the research on site. Of course, how many of us actually live in the area's our ancestors hailed from? Just a thought. Brenda J Scott -----Original Message----- From: Leta Sheaffer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Sibley Hospital Emaress Nova, Thank you - This seems to be an on going problem with research. People just don't care to know, it's only the ones who are serious about researching. Do you know if there would be a Family History Center in D.C. ? If MLK library doesn't know or have any information, then maybe an FHC might. Again, ya never know til you try. I never give up - you would be surprised at the places you would least expect to have information, actually do. Thank you for inquiring and having a nice chat with a very nice lady. Leta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emaress Nova" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] Sibley Hospital > Leta, > I had a very nice chat with a woman at the MLK > library in the genealogy section. She was most > helpful. > For the most part DC is a bucket of worms and no > one "dont know nuthin'" and what's more they dont > want to know anything. Everynow and then you do > find somebody who does care and does their best. > Good Luck!! > --- Leta Sheaffer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

Washington Sands is in Takoma Park, MD Brenda J Scott -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] TB Hospital in Washington DC There used to be a TB hospital on Glenn Dale Road in Glenn Dale, Prince George's County, MD, which is not far from Washington, DC. I know it's been closed for many, many years but remember in being open in my lifetime. I think that people from Washington, DC, might have been sent there for treatement. My husband said he believes it was originally called Glenn Dale Sanitarium but the name was changed, possiblly to Washington Sanitarium. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Soper is o old Maryland name. I have them in my ancestry. I'm sorry I don't have at the moment my records with me, but look on the MDGenWeb site and also while there look under the Montgomery county, Md site. Brenda J Scott -----Original Message----- From: Susan Wheary [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias The Soper I am looking for is something of an enigma. Mary Virgina Soper was a dressmaker in Washington about 1891. She's my g-grandmother. I have yet to find her on a census record, or anything else but a couple of city directory entries. I have heard that she had a son, but I have no information on him other than that he is supposed to have lived in Maryland. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Emaress Nova [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias My ex-son in law is a Soper. His father was from Warrenton, VA. --- Susan Wheary <[email protected]> wrote: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

Hi Susan, We have emailed before a long time ago about the Balls in Virginia. But what I am trying to find out now is if the Mary E. married to Francis Marion Donaldson (son of James W. and Mary A. (Ball) Donaldson was a Soper from Maryland. Does any of this connect to your Soper family by any chance. Carol On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:20 PM, Susan Wheary wrote: > The Soper I am looking for is something of an enigma. Mary Virgina > Soper was > a dressmaker in Washington about 1891. She's my g-grandmother. I have > yet to > find her on a census record, or anything else but a couple of city > directory > entries. I have heard that she had a son, but I have no information on > him > other than that he is supposed to have lived in Maryland. > > Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emaress Nova [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:10 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias > > > My ex-son in law is a Soper. His father was from > Warrenton, VA. > --- Susan Wheary <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Make Yahoo! your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

----- Original Message ----- From: Barton Hall To: Washington DC Sent: 01 March 2005 12:42 Subject: Anyone connected Looking for these names in DC, 1900's: Charles Mentges, John Keithley, Josiah Gray (1850-1920) his wife, Mary Jane Kidwell Gray and George and Mary Ann Kidwell of MD. J

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Thanks for the information. My Ball family was predominantly in old Alexandria County, Virginia from about 1750 until fairly recently. Many of them spent at least part of their lives living in Washington. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Sue Dotson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias Go to www.google.com and enter ["Knights of Pythias" + "Washington, DC"] You will get numerous links regarding this organization in DC Btw, I see you are researching the surname Ball. I have been searching 13 years for the parents of my 3rd G-gmother, Amelia Ball. She was b. Abt. 1796 in Montgomery Co., MD and died Abt. 14 Mar 1850 in DC. She married Samuel Reintzel 25 Dec 1813 in DC. I would appreciate any help you could provide. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Wheary To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias Hi all, The obituary for my g-g-grandfather, James K. PROCTOR (d. 23 Oct 1874 at the age of 32, buried in Congressional Cemetery), indicates that he was with the Knights of Pythias and the Sons of Jonadab. Is there anywhere I can get information from these organizations about past members? Apparently the Knights of Pythias still exist, but I think the Sons of Jonadab may have been a temperance fraternity which probably doesn't. Susan Wheary Researching HELWIG, PROCTOR, SOPER, ROBINSON, BALL, CATHELL in Washington DC. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

The Soper I am looking for is something of an enigma. Mary Virgina Soper was a dressmaker in Washington about 1891. She's my g-grandmother. I have yet to find her on a census record, or anything else but a couple of city directory entries. I have heard that she had a son, but I have no information on him other than that he is supposed to have lived in Maryland. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Emaress Nova [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WashingtonDC'' ] James Proctor/Knights of Pythias My ex-son in law is a Soper. His father was from Warrenton, VA. --- Susan Wheary <[email protected]> wrote: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx