CAROL, YES MARY WAS WHITE AND I'M SORRY THATS ALL I KNOW MARY CECILIA DONOVAN WAS BORN IN WASHINGTON D.C., WHEN SHE CAME OUT TO CALIFORNIA I DON'T KNOW BUT I KNOW SHE MARRIED MY GRANDFATHER IN SAN FRANCISCO IN 1886, HE CAME TO SAN FRANCISCO FROM PORTUGAL, I JUST THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE SOME BIRTH OF A MARY CECILIA DONOVAN I KNOW ITS A LONG SHOT BUT I'M TRYING, NO ONE LET MANY CLUES.......THANKS FOR ANY HELP. CECILE cecile/sis

1880 San Francisco, CA census lists a Mary Donovan, age 21, born DC, as daughter of Margaret Donovan, age 55, widowed, born in Ireland. Chuck

Assuming Donovan was her birth surname and not her married name - I found only two possibilities in the 1870 DC census, although the age is off: Mary (age 3), daughter of Johana (age 40) assume widowed other siblings: Daniel (age 14), John (age 7), Jerrie (age 5), James (age 1) Mary A. (age 14), daughter of Dennis (age 38) and Catherine (age 32) Donovan other siblings: James (age 16), Daniel (age 15) Assuming Donovan is her married name, there are 383 Marys who are possibilities born about 1860 that are still living in DC in 1870. Chuck

Maybe someone could help me with a look up, Mary Cecilia Donovan was born 1860 in Washington D.C., died 1936 Mill Valley CA. I'm wanting to find out the names of her parents maybe some one could be of some help. Appreciate it. She is my Great Great Grandmother and thats all I know. Thanks Cecile cecile/sis

[email protected] wrote: >How do I find out more about this Enrollment Act. > >[email protected] > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > I turned this up on a search engine. Is this what you want? http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USACWenrollment.htm Barbara Johnson

How do I find out more about this Enrollment Act. [email protected]

Hi, For those with Godfrey: Click the first link- the top left hand side. Early American Newspapers (1,200 titles) NewsBank *************************** National Intelligencer Issues: 1873 Dates: 10/31/1800 - 12/31/1812 Location: Washington D.C., District of Columbia Variant Titles a.. National intelligencer and Washington advertiser b.. National Intelligencer & Washington advertiser c.. National intelligencer, Washington advertiser d.. National intelligencer 1800 - 1809 (1406 issues) 1810 - 1819 (467 issues) ********************* They have only until 1812 online. It's still in Beta. They do have a lot of kinks, many won't convert to PDF. They have a box to change the image to pdf. A bit slow loading. but still :-), it's worth the wait to see those early DC newspapers. District of Columbia Federal Republican (538 issues) National Intelligencer (1873 issues) National Messenger (453 issues) Olio (59 issues) Washington Federalist (1123 issues) It also has newspapers from many other states. Margy

If any of you have done extensive lookups in the social security death index (SSDI), you'll know that there are several SSDI websites and each one has a different set of limitations. Several years ago Steve Morse made it easy for us by developing a single search form that could search any SSDI site that you specify. That way you could go back and forth between the different sites without having to reenter you data on a new form. Steve has now come up with a single search method that combines all the desirable features of the various sites. He did so by using the rootsweb site as his starting point and then wrote code to get rid of the following limitations in rootsweb: Rootsweb requires at least three characters for partial names Rootsweb does not allow you to search on a range of years Rootsweb does not allow you to search on age Rootsweb does not allow you to search on a foreign last residence Rootsweb does not allow you to specify day of month for death He calls his search method "RootsWeb Plus" and it is now the default choice on his SSDI search form. If you'd like to try it, go to Steve's site at http://www.stevemorse.org and select "Social Security Death Records" in his "Births and Deaths" section. Please direct any questions to Steve directly. His address is at the top of the site. - Diane Jacobs New Jersey

Did you know also that -- on the rootsweb site of SDDI you can post the information of a subject. Say you get an SS5 giving the information of parents etc. You will see on the right hand side where it says a post em just click on register and post. This would be very helpful if people would post the info they received off the SS5 a lot of people would be able to access it. Since photocopies of SS5's have risen from 7 to 27 dollars it would save a lot of money...Just a thought. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Jacobs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 10:03 PM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] RootsWebPlus - SSDI search using Steve Morse's website > > > If any of you have done extensive lookups in the social security death > index (SSDI), you'll know that there are several SSDI websites and each > one has a different set of limitations. Several years ago Steve Morse > made it easy for us by developing a single search form that could search > any SSDI site that you specify. That way you could go back and forth > between the different sites without having to reenter you data on a new > form. > > Steve has now come up with a single search method that combines all the > desirable features of the various sites. He did so by using the > rootsweb site as his starting point and then wrote code to get rid of > the following limitations in rootsweb: > > Rootsweb requires at least three characters for partial names > Rootsweb does not allow you to search on a range of years > Rootsweb does not allow you to search on age > Rootsweb does not allow you to search on a foreign last residence > Rootsweb does not allow you to specify day of month for death > > He calls his search method "RootsWeb Plus" and it is now the default > choice on his SSDI search form. If you'd like to try it, go to Steve's > site at http://www.stevemorse.org and select "Social Security Death > Records" > in his "Births and Deaths" section. > > Please direct any questions to Steve directly. His address is at the > top of the site. > > - Diane Jacobs > New Jersey > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Dear fellow listers I have rejoined the list, having found that John BURGER married Margaret F A Murphy, probably between 1863 and 1865. She died in March 1865, and he remarried the following year in New York. Can anyone point me to a Marriage License for J C S BURGER to M F A MURPHY in DC at that time? Many thanks for your help. Phil Candy London *** This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and are intended only for the addressee(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail and have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the NHSU WebShield Virus Scanner, but is not guaranteed free from viruses ***

I'm a volunteer at the Mont. co. Historical Soc. I will check our obit index for Robt. Buechling Sr. when I go in on Thurs. and hopefully get back to you. If he lived any length of time in Mont. Co, there is a good chance he is there. BJ Diggs

In addition to the death of Robert Buechling that I mentioned in my last posting (below), I was surprised to also find the death of his wife, Joyce K. [Reintzel] Buechling in the SSDI. She died 21 Jan 2003, just 6 weeks before her husband. Her last known residence was also Damascus, Montgomery Co., MD. If anyone can help me obtain her obituary as well, I would be very grateful. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Dotson Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:42 PM Subject: [DC-OBITS] Obituary Needed I am hoping to find an obituary for Robert Irving Buechling, Sr. who, according to the SSDI, died 07 Mar 2003. Also per the SSDI, his last known residence was Damascus, Montgomery Co., MD. I tried checking the online archives of the Washington Post but came up empty. I would appreciate any help anyone can offer. Sue Dotson [email protected]

I am hoping to find an obituary for Robert Irving Buechling, Sr. who, according to the SSDI, died 07 Mar 2003. Also per the SSDI, his last known residence was Damascus, Montgomery Co., MD. I tried checking the online archives of the Washington Post but came up empty. I would appreciate any help anyone can offer. Sue Dotson [email protected]

A member of the volunteer staff at St. Patrick's Church has graciously sent me the marriage register information for my George Viehmann and Jane French, married Oct. 10, 1854. While I didn't learn any parent information, the register did list 2 witnesses: Frederick Hecker and Margaret Haman (The H in their last names could be an N; the m in Haman could be Harnan, etc.). Does anyone have this Hecker or Haman in their research? In the event it helps anyone, other names on this page of the 1854 St. Patrick's marriage register are: --Sept. 20 or 26, Married-John Turner & Johanna Fitzgerald, witnesses-Michael Fitzgerald & Catharine Ryan. --Sept. 22, John ?Neanin? & Ann ?Crahen?, witnesses-Thomas Crahan & Mary ?Neanin?. --Sept. 30, Thomas Ward & Ann Kelly, witnesses-John Carroll & Ann McLean. --Oct. 1, Patrick Downes & Maria Ragan, witnesses-James Burke & Bridget Cleary. --Oct. 3, Patrick Cunningham & Ann Talbot, witnesses-Michael Nash & Mary McCarthy. --Oct. 10, Thomas McNamara & Mary Conners (best guess), witnesses-Patrick Brady & Julia Maack (?). --Oct. 10, Michael Maloney & Mary Flaherty, witnesses-Patrick Maloney & Mary Welsh. --Oct. 24, Daniel Murphy & Mary Connell, witnesses-John Brady & Ellen Fleming. Bonnie McDonald [email protected] Researching--DC: Bailey, Viehmann, French; VA: Cross, Burgess, Feaster, Curry

I'm a descendant of the Burnes family, Marcia Burnes Van Ness is the daughter of my 4th great uncle, David Burnes, and my cousins and I have been discussing her public funeral. She died in 1832 and was the only woman at the time to have a public funeral in DC. I'm wondering how many women have had public funerals in DC, is she the only one or were there others? Thanks! Barb Price Burnes/Van Ness/Orme/Loker/Hardy/Wight/Trueman Phillips/Wheeler/Allison/Moore/Dowden/Brown/Gore Ashford/Neville/Porter/Fish/Miller......

With Mary Rowse's enthusiastic support I'm posting this here for those interested in preserving historic DC. Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 03:35:24 EDT From: [email protected] Subject: Help Urgently Needed to Save Jesse Baltimore House Please help us save the historic, federally-owned Jesse Baltimore House at 5136 Sherier Place in the Palisades neighborhood. (See steps 1 - 3 below) Despite enormous Palisades community and city-wide support for saving the house and returning it to the private sector for ownership and restoration, the Department of Parks & Recreation (DPR) is pushing a plan, advocated by a handful of people, to demolish this 80-year old, structurally sound Sears "Fullerton" and replace it with grass. The city's 2006 tax assessment on this property is $785,000. The average house sale in the Palisades neighborhood is $900,000. Homes on Sherier Place routinely sell for well over one million dollars. And yet both the Department of Parks & Recreation and Councilmember Kathy Patterson, Chairman of the Committee on Education, Libraries & Recreation, want to tear down the Jesse Baltimore House rather than sell it to any one of the many people who wish to buy and restore it in place. DPR has given no good reason for wanting to tear down this valuable house or for refusing to accept the proceeds from its sale to help fund improvements at Palisades Park or at any other DPR site around the city. It's hard to believe there isn't a Recreation project somewhere in Washington that needs some extra money to become a reality. If you know of one, would you please tell Councilmember Patterson where it is? It is the height of fiscal irresponsibility for a city agency that doesn't have all the money it needs for projects, reject a sensible opportunity for obtaining additional funds. DPR has also refused to participate in good faith in the Section 106 process required by federal preservation law that says an agency seeking demolition of a historic property must first consider various options for saving it. (The Jesse Baltimore House has been deemed eligible for the National Register since it's a contributing structure to a potential Palisades Historic District.) Amazingly enough, Ward 3 Councilmember Kathy Patterson is supporting the Department's wasteful, irresponsible decision to destroy this building worth $785,000, and is herself ignoring over 750 of her Palisades constituents who have asking her to save the house and return it to private ownership. An additional 200 letters of support have been written by others throughout her ward, in the city and across the nation, asking that this 1925 Sears house built by plumber Jesse Baltimore be sold and restored to the historic streetscape of Sherier Place. It is very troubling to see Councilmember Patterson, who oversees our schools, libraries and recreation department, advocate for the destruction of a building worth $785,000, and whose sale proceeds could be redirected to the city's struggling libraries and schools. You can help us save the house by: 1) Attending a meeting tonight, Thursday, May 5th, at 7 p.m. at the Palisades Library, 4901 V Street, N.W. and voicing your support for returning the house to private ownership and redirecting the sale proceeds to worthy city library or recreation projects; 2) Calling Councilmember Kathy Patterson at (202) 724-8062 and Mayor Anthony Williams at (202) 727-6263 and telling them you don't want your tax dollars wasted on demolishing a historic house that could be returned to the city's tax rolls and whose sale proceeds could benefit a worthy, unfunded education, library or recreation project around the city. 3) Emailing Councilmember Patterson and Mayor Williams at: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) to let them know that Palisades residents have witnessed the loss of so much of their community's architectural heritage over the years and that you want the city to stop the unnecessary demolition of the Jesse Baltimore House because there is simply no good reason to tear down a structurally sound property assessed at $785,000, whose sale proceeds could be redirected back into a library, education or recreation project in another community. If you would like to help us fight this battle, please contact me at: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Many thanks, Mary Rowse Historic Washington Architecture, Inc. (202) 362-9279

Having worked in the copyright office many years ago, I am aware that a copyright must be assigned to a holder - or the one who has applied for that copyright - some really strange ones came in like the guy that applied for a copyright for the label to his bottle of atomic hot sauce - that has run out by now since that was back in the early 1950's. Seems to me that if the copyright has a date that has run out there should be problem. The Library of Congress keeps catalogs of everything - for foreign and domestic. If you have the name of a document - write to them asking if it truly is copyrighted and the date. Barring that, try your congressman - he should have a local telephone number in your telephone book. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I got this message on the Nebraska Roots mailing list. Thought maybe some of you might be interested..... ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:46 PM Subject: [NEBRRoots] Copyright Opinions Osiyo Folks, There is a growing concern on the regulations being placed to prevent the photocopying of published works which includes that which is related to family and genealogical information especially when the author has died or cannot be located. This work is being called "Orphan Works". This has no bearing on the Orphan Train or individuals without parents, but rather, data or information where the authors are difficult or impossible to locate. The U.S. Copyright Office is seeking opinions on how to proceed. This should be of interest to anyone who is interested in family history research and or publishing their own genealogy or family history. We are being encouraged to voice our opinion on the subject whatever that opinion is, as it may touch each of us, either because we may be the author or the individual trying to locate an author. Here is the web link for the Copyright Office: http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/ Wado, Bill List Admin/or Lister -=- ==== NEBRRoots Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe NEBRRoots-L <"mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe"> To Unsubscribe NEBRRoots-D (digest) <"mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe"> Subscribe to Nebraska Trivia & History: <"mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe">

Chuck, If you are researching a Duvall line, perhaps you could help me. I have an Alice DuVall b. Abt. 1866 VA. She is in the 1880 census listed as "daughter" for widowed Mary E. Cunnington. However, Mary and sp. George Cunnington are in the 1870 census with just one child, a son Lucian Beach age 9 (from Mary's first marriage.) Alice, who would have been abt. 4, is not listed with them. Also, Mary's maiden name was Swann. She married first to Louis Beach who d. 1869 (when Alice would have been 2 or 3); 2nd to George Cunnington who d. bef. 1880, and third to James M. Laughlin who she md. between 1882 - 1885. So although Alice is listed in 1880 as Mary's daughter, I don't believe she was Mary's natural-born daughter. Therefore, I am interested in knowing more about Alice Duvall, who her parents were, and how Mary ended up with her in the household. I do know that Alice Duvall married J . Walter Turvy 23 Sep 1888. The marriage is listed in the Beach Family Bible that I have. I would appreciate any help you could offer. Sue Dotson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:24 PM Subject: [WashingtonDC'' ] Marriage query I am looking for a marriage between 1830-1836 for a Wm. T. Duvall to an Elizabeth. I am also looking for a marriage for a Henry Scott near 1810. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Chuck ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Pippenger, Wesley, District of Columbia Marriage Licenses, Book 1, 1811-1858. P. 181 Duvall, William T. Bowen, Elizabeth T. June 25, 1833 There are many Duvalls in this volume. There are four Henry Scotts listed; the earliest is 1818. For a marriage about 1811, you should check the Maryland archives. Charlotte Mattern