Good morning list-DUH-I should have mentioned that Shirley lives over by Spokane and does lots of geneology-thats why I sent my request to this list-I thought maybe some of you might have had dealings with her. Thanks to all of you who have responded-when she gets home from the hosp and they get her office moved downstairs(she would be able to get up the stairs but not down with the halo) and get her computer set up again I will forward your messages. Pamela in WI