Listers, I have created this list and am sending it to all locations that I know the Leavell's lived. If you have Leavell in your family please join the list so we can share information. Thank you. Leavell-L@rootsweb.com To join Leavell-L-request@rootsweb.com or for the digest Leavell-D-request@rootsweb.com Janice C. Buker 1361 Chapman Rd. Castle Rock, WA 98611 jcbuker@newoutriders.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mackay Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CCC.2ACE/2964 Message Board Post: My great great grandfather passed away in Seattle, WA, around January, 1907. I believe three of his sons may have lived in the Seattle area at the time of his death. Their names were Charles Bruce, James, and Alexander MacKay. I would like to find relatives, or any information relating to thid family. Thank you for your help, Diane

Folks, you need to click on the URL to respond to the original post. It was placed on a message board, then gatewayed to the list. If you answer on the list, the original poster won't see it. shirley :) RBestrom@Earthlink.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2963.1 > >Message Board Post: > > > >>Searching for Sherry L. Hammons, born April 9. 1943, Grant >>Co., Or. Daughter of Harlan and Edna Williams Hammons. >>Sherry adopted out in 1952, Wenatchee, Wa. >>Adoptive parents not known. Older brothers, Larry and Jerry >>remained with their mother. >> >> > >I did some searches, but without any success. I'm sure you have the spelling of the last name correct, but I also looked for Hammonds and Hammon. I don't know if you're family or not, or if you have done any of the following or not, but I'd suggest: > Identify the family members of both parents. It appears Sherry was born in Oregon. I found a Harlan Blane Hammons, age 30 at death in a cemetery in Harney County, OR. I don't know if this is him or not. But, if his family is unknown, Harlan's obituary should be checked to find his family members and if any were in Wenatchee. Or, if any of his family may know the circumstances of the adoption. I'm sure Larry and Jerry have been asked detailed questions, or are part of the search effort. Was Edna in Wenatchee at the time? If so, why? And, did she live with family? Is it possible she knew the family adopting? There is a Q. Hammons residing in Wenatchee today, is this a possible relative? If the adoption was set up by the court, are the records frozen or can someone obtain them? If Edna and family were living in Oregon, how did a family in Wenatchee obtain the adoption. Is there any indication that Edna was in contact with Sherry over the years? Christmas c! a! > rds, etc. Is one of Edna's old address books still available to search? Did Larry or Jerry ever have contact with her over the years? If the adopted family remained in Wenatchee, then school books could be reviewed for any Sherry's of the right age. If 9 in 1952, she would have been graduating from high school circa 1961. Then through county records identify who she married and make contacts. Someone residing in Wenatchee could check the school books and county recorder documents. Anyway, good luck. > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 1-28-2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hammons/Williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2963.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for help and advice. Harlan B. Hammons, buried Burns, Or. is indeed the right one.Couple were divorced and Edna had moved to Wenatchee, WA., by the time of his death. Thanks again. TJ

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2963.1 Message Board Post: > Searching for Sherry L. Hammons, born April 9. 1943, Grant > Co., Or. Daughter of Harlan and Edna Williams Hammons. > Sherry adopted out in 1952, Wenatchee, Wa. > Adoptive parents not known. Older brothers, Larry and Jerry > remained with their mother. I did some searches, but without any success. I'm sure you have the spelling of the last name correct, but I also looked for Hammonds and Hammon. I don't know if you're family or not, or if you have done any of the following or not, but I'd suggest: Identify the family members of both parents. It appears Sherry was born in Oregon. I found a Harlan Blane Hammons, age 30 at death in a cemetery in Harney County, OR. I don't know if this is him or not. But, if his family is unknown, Harlan's obituary should be checked to find his family members and if any were in Wenatchee. Or, if any of his family may know the circumstances of the adoption. I'm sure Larry and Jerry have been asked detailed questions, or are part of the search effort. Was Edna in Wenatchee at the time? If so, why? And, did she live with family? Is it possible she knew the family adopting? There is a Q. Hammons residing in Wenatchee today, is this a possible relative? If the adoption was set up by the court, are the records frozen or can someone obtain them? If Edna and family were living in Oregon, how did a family in Wenatchee obtain the adoption. Is there any indication that Edna was in contact with Sherry over the years? Christmas ca! rds, etc. Is one of Edna's old address books still available to search? Did Larry or Jerry ever have contact with her over the years? If the adopted family remained in Wenatchee, then school books could be reviewed for any Sherry's of the right age. If 9 in 1952, she would have been graduating from high school circa 1961. Then through county records identify who she married and make contacts. Someone residing in Wenatchee could check the school books and county recorder documents. Anyway, good luck.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hammons/Williams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2963 Message Board Post: Searching for info. on Sherry L. Hammons, born April 9. 1943, Grant Co., Or. Daughter of Harlan and Edna Williams Hammons. Sherry adopted out in 1952, Wenatchee, Wa. Adoptive parents not known. Older brothers, Larry and Jerry remained with their mother. ANY info. would be most appreciated......Thank You, TJ

I will help in researching the Skittrall family. I am going to the Seattle Public LIb next Saturday I will look in telephone books etc Please help in filling the missing info Frances Evelyn George (mother and father ? brother and sisters ?) b m d spouse ? 1st name Skittrall b d children ? who are these Frances Skittrall (mother and father ? brothers and sisters ?) b Sept 30,1890 where m d May 1966 Snohomish Co died in Zip Code 98038 Lynnwood WA spouse Frances Katherine Kjeruff (Scandanivan?) b d children ? on each name birth date and where marriage date and where death date and where name of mother and father name of brothers and sisters name of children name of cemetery and where trace these families on 1790 1800 1810 1820 1830 1840 1850 1860 1870 1880 1890 1900 1910 1920 1930 census anyone have access to ancestry,com and find these families? thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle acbowne1@yahoo.com jaboop@comcast.net wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2946.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That is just it, I am trying to find a connection to any Skitrrall. My Father was Edward Harold Skittrall, married Frances Kathryn Kjerulf. His mother was Frances Evelyn George. She married a Skittrall and Had my dad (Edward) and his sister (Floss), but I only knew Gramma, apparently grampa died or left the family early. Dad never knew his father. I do have dates of death and birth for gramma and dad. I am stuck. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2946.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for you great input, I appreciate it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ostrander, Lathrop, Green Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2946.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: I have found birth records to be a lot more useful than death certificates for finding parents' names and data. The validity of death certificate information depends on whether the informant knows anything or not. Often they don't especially if the person is very old. You are more likely to get better information on a birth record, although those can be fudged if the parents are so inclined. The validity of the data on the SSN application does depend on what that person used for proof. It at least gives you a place to look for the birth record, also parents' names and other data. It fixes the person in a place and time since you get the date of the application as well as the person's residence at that time.

I wonder if you know this. A new birth certificate is issued to the new adoptive parents. BUT; The child or baby's name is the only thing changed as well as the new parents name is on it. ALL the other information such as birth date, time, place, town, etc. remain the same as the original birth certificate. So that does give you some info in case you don't know it. Sometimes, not always, you can check a newspaper for births in the area in same towns from same hospital and may get something that matches. That is if the mother retains the baby after birth and or the parents are still married. Also then you can take the names suspected you find and check the City Directories in the town and also the surrounding area as may not been a hosp. in the smaller town they lived in. There are many more things you can do but each case can be different so a searcher or helper needs to know all pertinent facts to know where and what should be the easiest things to do first and in order. So even tho you were b in Seattle, Wa. your mother or parents could have lived in any of the suburbs surrounding there as same with other's. I have helped many find their lost person from many ways, adoption ; moved, disappearance, remarried etc. willma@sprynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <rtoler45@hotmail.com> To: <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:45 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Baby Girl Born 11-05-53 in Seattle Washington Looking for Father > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.msn.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/CCC.2ACE/2962 > > Message Board Post: > > I was born to Dolores Sanders, maiden name Ottolino at the King County Hospital. Looking for my father, (unknown) not for any financial gain, only curiosity. I have red hair, freckles and green eyes. The red hair had to come from my fathers side. My father would have had to know my mother Dolores in February of 1953. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you. > >

I also have my first spouce who had an afair with another married woman. This was around Easter time in 1953. Then new years day she had another boy. ( her marriage had gotten her 2 boys, 1 with black hair like his father and other red hair like WHO. Then along came the 3rd. a son blonging to my spouce b New years day, and first in the County in Ore. 1954. I saw him several times and last when he was about 4 yrs old. Spitten image of my first spouce. He has a half sister, our dau. b 1947. She don't even want ro meet him or know who he is and he lives in the next lttle town from her all his life and is now 50 years old. I haven't the nerve to contact him and tell him yet but sure want to. I have known this for a number of years as well. willma@sprynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Bestrom" <rbestrom@earthlink.net> To: <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON-L] Re: Sanders > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rtoler45@hotmail.com> > > > ...but I do know my mother, Dolores Sanders and am looking for my father > whom I was told, has or had red hair. I know nothing about him. My mothers > maiden name was Ottolino but was Sanders when I was born. So her full > maiden name is Dolores Josephine Ottolino. My birthdate is ... ... ... born > in King County Hospital, Seattle Washington. > > I have a list of all men that had red hair visiting or living in Seattle in > 1952...no, that won't help. > > Genealogy begins at home. If your mother is still living, ASK HER FIRST. > If not, does she have any living siblings, parents, aunts/uncles, cousins, > someone in the family still alive? Does she have any dear old friends, such > as high school or college friends that may have information. Have you tried > to obtain your birth certificate? Ask anyone/everyone in the family or her > friends. If there is a legal freeze on it being released, you can take it > to court to have it released. Your children and you need to know of any > family medical history on his side. > > Second, check records. If they lived together in 1952, 53, etc, there may > be a record of them living in a residence in Seattle in the Polk City > Directories. These Directories are not phone books but listings of persons > residing at an address. Have you tried to obtain a birth announcement in > the newspaper? They would identify that a baby girl born to Mr. Xx and Mrs. > X. Your mothers name went from Ottolino to Sanders. Was this mystery > person the Sanders, or was she later married to Sanders? In your childhood, > who was she living with? Did your mother ever complain that someone wasn't > paying child support? Did your mother ever make comments on your father? > > So, first, start at home, then obtain records and write down all facts > learned, verified or not. Sometimes a verified fact is untrue and a > suspected lie is the truth. > > Historically, the Korean War was going on, your father could have been home > on leave from the Army, or was stationed in Washington from some other far > US home. It could have been a long term romance with marriage and then > divorce; or just a fling; or worse-a criminal act. I'm sure you're aware of > the possibilities. Your father may not want anything to do with you or even > acknowledge you. Which may be the case if he had known of you and hadn't > made contact. Or, he may not even know of your existence. Curiosity is > understandable, medical needs are realistic; but do you REALLY want to know. > It could be more painful than satisfaction of curiosity. I, and my > siblings, have learned recently that we may have an unknown sister. She > may or may not have any knowledge of her paternity. We do not wish to > attempt to find her, as it may devastate her life. Sometimes, it's better > to let the unknowns remain. > > Ron Bestrom > > > > >

Boy, and HOW Right you are Ron; Many newbe's don't seem to understand , you have to have a starting point with a name dates and places. Then check censuses, then go on. Just putting a surname doesn't get it. So many surnames are so common now and so plentiful in ant number of nationalities as well. I just had the first name of my Grt GRt Grandmother, Mahala and her spouse name Wm. Rooks. and their dau. Millie, my grandmother and a state. So I went to the census. Got my start. Thanks for the many helpers on Computer as I made a message and posted it on Missouri site. I had looked for several years by mail and not founds her but did get some letters which I couldn't connect. Maxine willma@sprynet.com. ----- Original Message ----- From: <RBestrom@Earthlink.net> To: <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 5:37 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Re: NELSON, CANTON > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/150.575.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Come on People. If you are searching for a family named Nelson, Canton, Blitz, etc. etc. etc. You have GOT to give a starting point. You HAVE to have someone that has a date of birth, a place, time, etc. Otherwise you will never get an answer. I could give you a list of 5,000 Nelson's in Washington with births from early 1800's through almost today. > > Genealogy starts at home. Start with family, what they know. Local records, then go from there. Do research in online county/state records. Go to the local county auditor. > > Start from a point, not a shotgun approach. > Ron Bestrom > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/150.575.1 Message Board Post: Come on People. If you are searching for a family named Nelson, Canton, Blitz, etc. etc. etc. You have GOT to give a starting point. You HAVE to have someone that has a date of birth, a place, time, etc. Otherwise you will never get an answer. I could give you a list of 5,000 Nelson's in Washington with births from early 1800's through almost today. Genealogy starts at home. Start with family, what they know. Local records, then go from there. Do research in online county/state records. Go to the local county auditor. Start from a point, not a shotgun approach. Ron Bestrom

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Trusty/ Blitz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/150.575 Message Board Post: Also Looking for Harry Blitz

----- Original Message ----- From: <rtoler45@hotmail.com> > I was born to Dolores Sanders, See my answer in "Re:Sanders", this same message board. Ron Bestrom

----- Original Message ----- From: <rtoler45@hotmail.com> > ...but I do know my mother, Dolores Sanders and am looking for my father whom I was told, has or had red hair. I know nothing about him. My mothers maiden name was Ottolino but was Sanders when I was born. So her full maiden name is Dolores Josephine Ottolino. My birthdate is ... ... ... born in King County Hospital, Seattle Washington. I have a list of all men that had red hair visiting or living in Seattle in 1952...no, that won't help. Genealogy begins at home. If your mother is still living, ASK HER FIRST. If not, does she have any living siblings, parents, aunts/uncles, cousins, someone in the family still alive? Does she have any dear old friends, such as high school or college friends that may have information. Have you tried to obtain your birth certificate? Ask anyone/everyone in the family or her friends. If there is a legal freeze on it being released, you can take it to court to have it released. Your children and you need to know of any family medical history on his side. Second, check records. If they lived together in 1952, 53, etc, there may be a record of them living in a residence in Seattle in the Polk City Directories. These Directories are not phone books but listings of persons residing at an address. Have you tried to obtain a birth announcement in the newspaper? They would identify that a baby girl born to Mr. Xx and Mrs. X. Your mothers name went from Ottolino to Sanders. Was this mystery person the Sanders, or was she later married to Sanders? In your childhood, who was she living with? Did your mother ever complain that someone wasn't paying child support? Did your mother ever make comments on your father? So, first, start at home, then obtain records and write down all facts learned, verified or not. Sometimes a verified fact is untrue and a suspected lie is the truth. Historically, the Korean War was going on, your father could have been home on leave from the Army, or was stationed in Washington from some other far US home. It could have been a long term romance with marriage and then divorce; or just a fling; or worse-a criminal act. I'm sure you're aware of the possibilities. Your father may not want anything to do with you or even acknowledge you. Which may be the case if he had known of you and hadn't made contact. Or, he may not even know of your existence. Curiosity is understandable, medical needs are realistic; but do you REALLY want to know. It could be more painful than satisfaction of curiosity. I, and my siblings, have learned recently that we may have an unknown sister. She may or may not have any knowledge of her paternity. We do not wish to attempt to find her, as it may devastate her life. Sometimes, it's better to let the unknowns remain. Ron Bestrom

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ostrander, Green, Lathrop Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2946.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: For $27 you can get a photocopy of his original application for his Social Security number since you have the number. It's $29 if you don't have the number. That application gives birth information, including parents' information and his birthplace. There is a form you can access for this purpose on line. You go to the Rootsweb SSDI site at http://www.ssdi//genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Look your guy up, then go to the SS-5 letter after his name. That's the form. You could write your own letter using that form if you prefer. For census, I have a subscription to the Godfrey Memorial Library in CT. They have the whole census from Heritage Quest on line, plus a lot of other resources. They specialize in, but are not limited to, New England. It costs $35 a year for their subscription that gives unlimited access to all the census images. Very helpful. They are at http://www.godfrey.com/ They are good to deal with as well.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.msn.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/CCC.2ACE/2962 Message Board Post: I was born to Dolores Sanders, maiden name Ottolino at the King County Hospital. Looking for my father, (unknown) not for any financial gain, only curiosity. I have red hair, freckles and green eyes. The red hair had to come from my fathers side. My father would have had to know my mother Dolores in February of 1953. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.

Hi there, Mary Lou here. I grew up in Duvall, Washington......my husband did as well. I have been reading your emails and when I read you mention Duvall, I went to ask my husband if he heard the Skitrall....he did! I will be typing up an article from the DUVALL CITIZEN newspaper clipping he happens to have. He is quite the Historian when it comes to Duvall and the railroad! His Grandmother was Nellie (Thayer) Miller who came to Duvall in 1902, I believe. She was telling Allen, my hubby, about this fire at their house. It was the worst fire disaster in the town. I will send this, and then hand type the article, as written from the Clipping from 23 July 1915. Mary Lou jaboop@comcast.net wrote: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CCC.2ACE/2946.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I do know when dad was born and died (b-1/1 1919, d- 4/29/1978) , I also have his social security number. I do not have his actual birth certificate, but can get a death cert. Do you think we can trace from that? I was told that either his dad or his grandfather ran away from home because it was a house full of women. But this is just a story. I know that they lived in Duval Washington for a while. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.msn.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5541/CCC.2ACE/2381.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi there. Sorry it took me 2 years to reply. I am not quite sure if I wrote my story clear enough but I do know my mother, Dolores Sanders and am looking for my father whom I was told, has or had red hair. I know nothing about him. My mothers maiden name was Ottolino but was Sanders when I was born. So her full maiden name is Dolores Josephine Ottolino. I tried looking for him when I was younger but had no luck. My children are now interested so I am trying to do what I can for them. My birthdate is 11-05-53, born in King County Hospital, Seattle Washington. Hope to hear form you.