See below RE GAST Search Social Security Death Index lists people who have died, under whose social security number a claim has been paid upon their death, i.e.: Grandpa Joe died in 1960, but had not heirs who could or should file a claim for any social security death (or other) benefits. So, he wouldn't be listed in the SS Death Index. But, Grandpa Jack died in 1962, and he had a widow, and two dependant children at the time of his death, and they all filed claims for SS benefits under his social security number. What you see in the SS Death Index are names of people under whose SS number benefits were made, and you will note that it generally shows the zip code to which the last benefit payment was made. That index had nothing to do with whether or not that person had a SS number, but if benefits were made after their death. Feel free to correct me if I have mis-represented how this index works, but I believe this explanation to be accurate, and hope it is helpful. Susan Searching for Bain/Bayne, Bennett, Bullock, Bussert, Evans, Helms, Hensley, Jones, Leinart, Loschen, Mason, Miller, Murry/Murray,Sadler/Saddler, Seiber, Shane, and Trauernicht. -----Original Message----- From: Linda McDowell <limcd@pacbell.net> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 01, 1998 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [WASHINGTON-L] GAST Search >The only way I know to get someones Social Security number if you can't ask >them is the Social Security Death Index. It only lists people who have died. > >Linda McDowell > >Debi Lightfoot wrote: > >> I am trying to locate an aunt of mine whose name is Meta Irma (Kriefall) >> GAST. Last known address was in Seattle, WA in 1969. I am not able to >> even locate a SS No. Is there anybody that could help with this >> request? Thanks. :-) > > > >

The only way I know to get someones Social Security number if you can't ask them is the Social Security Death Index. It only lists people who have died. Linda McDowell Debi Lightfoot wrote: > I am trying to locate an aunt of mine whose name is Meta Irma (Kriefall) > GAST. Last known address was in Seattle, WA in 1969. I am not able to > even locate a SS No. Is there anybody that could help with this > request? Thanks. :-)

I am trying to locate an aunt of mine whose name is Meta Irma (Kriefall) GAST. Last known address was in Seattle, WA in 1969. I am not able to even locate a SS No. Is there anybody that could help with this request? Thanks. :-)

Hello From Canada, Looking for information for my DUNCAN family connection. Robert John and Lavina DUNCAN came from Ontario, Canada and may have lived in Hamilton and Sedro Woolley areas. Another town/village they may have lived is Acme. Their first four children were born in Washington. ============================================== The Family of Robert John and Lavina Hattie (KOEPP) DUNCAN 1. Robert John DUNCAN, (b. Ontario, Canada) ....+ Lavina Hattie KOEPP, (b. Germany) ........2. Mary Elizabeth DUNCAN, b. 16-JUL-1899 in Washington. ........2. Frances Viola DUNCAN, b. 2-MAY-1901 in Washington. Frances Viola DUNCAN, d. 15-FEB-1902 in Washington. ........2. Lavina May DUNCAN, b. 26-MAR-1904 in Washington. ........2. Robert John DUNCAN, b. 13-JUN-1905 in Washington. ================================================ Robert John DUNCAN may have worked in the logging business. If you know of this family please drop me a line. Thank you. Dan

George Atkinson bn. 1897 Dunn Co., Wi., d. 1975 Elma, Grays Harbor Co., Wa m. #1 ? Vance, #2 Nellie Louise Nickel, May 13 1935 in Elma. He owned the Past Time Tavern and Barber Shop in the late 30's and early 40's. Played ametuer golf and gave lessons at Oaksridge Golf Course almost to the time of his death. Any info on this man would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Barbara

I hesitate to say this, but I do have reasonable access to the Washington state index and the certificates up to about 1950. I will do look ups if you send name, date, and location (county or city) or as much as you have. If you only have a name it takes a lot longer than a name and date. I go to the location about twice a month and will go again this Monday, Aug 24. So get info to me by Sunday 4:00pm and I will do what I can. After that I will announce any other visit I plan to make. If you send me info inbetween, you MUST be patient as my schedule changes quickly. You may send periodic reminders, just don't hold your breath. I do what I can. Please DO NOT make any major announcements beyond this list. I do have another life and try to do other genealogy also. P.S. The library where I do my research charges $.25 per photocopy, so keep this in mind if you ask for cert. copies. Otherwise, I transcribe the information. P.P.S. The indexes start in 1907 and are filmed more or less by decade. The more recent years are on microfische, I think. I haven't used these, but will if requested. I will not photocopy the index pages because most of the copies are bad to awful. So do not request all listing of a surname except under very dire situations discussed with me. Sorry that Washington state does not have these online yet, but there is work being done in that direction for sometime in the future. Mostly after we get the 1910 Census done. Keep in mind that obits are another story. I have limited access to some of the state newspapers, but no index, so must have place and time and name. Also keep in mind that not everyone has an obit for several reasons. For more recent years, meaning 2-4 years, I have had good luck using the Seattle Times index online. Some day soon, I'll put the links on the WaGenWeb page. I have also done searches on DIALOG that has indexes for 4 major in-state newspapers: Seattle, Tacoma, Spokane, I can't remember the 4th, but it may just be the 2 papers in Seattle. I recently searched for a lady, who had not lived in Washington all of her life; could not find her obit in the Seattle Times, but the DIALOG search brought her up in a list of people who had outstanding checks from the State. If you are patient and tolerent, I will do what I can for a pretty please and thank you. Later, Celia Tomlin Washington-L listowner

-----Original Message----- From: selmag@pacbell.net <selmag@pacbell.net> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 1:28 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] DEATH CERTIFICATES >Celia >Just what dates do the death films cover?? When I was in WA I called Olympia and >they said I couldn't check death records. >What films are available and what years do they cover?? >Selma Grant Hello again all, I am aware of the Washington State Death Index that is available on microfilm, and I believe, although the years may be off some, that it covers years 1909 through 1962 (roughly). I have viewed the film myself in the Spokane Public Library. I have seen the deaths listed for my great-grandfather in 1911, and my grandfather in 1957. It lists the name of person, date of death, age at death, place of death (county, I think), and death certificate number. Hope this helps clear up some questions you have on this. It's not a death record, but it is an index, covering the entire state. Susan

Another clipping from the Spokesman-Review probably 1921, before October. ENGAGEMENT IS ANNOUNCED Miss Evelyn McLaughlin to Become Bride of William J. Bayne (sic Boyle) in October Announcement of the betrothal of Miss Evelyn MCLAUGHLIN, daughter of Mrs. Thomas MCLAUGHIN, E320 Nora Avenue, to William J. BOYLE was made at an informal tea given at tahe MCLAUGHLIN home yesterday afternoon. Miss MCLAUGHLIN is a graduate of the Holy Names Academy. Mr. BOYLE is a former resident of Philadelphia. He is at present employed by the Zellerbach Paper Company. During the war he served overseas with the 146th field artilerry. The wedding will take place in October. (snip) In the receiving line with Miss McLAUGHLIN was her mother, Mrs. Thomas MCLAUGHLIN, and her sister, Miss Cora MCLAUGHLIN. Miss Loretta A. BRADLEY and Miss Irene MCLAUGHLIN presided at the urns. The bride-elect was gowned in a pretty model of blue canton crepe, combined with steel beads. Mrs. MCLaughlin wore a dark brown crepe de chine gown with a brown overdrape. Invited guests at the function were: Mesdames R.E. Tenny J.K. Finley R Parson CE Hartigan E Anderson Lyal Rymarkzick Joe Wittman TL Pitcher Robert Howard Virgal Hass M Shinkle James Leonard Thomas Flynn JO Vomaske JJ Schiffner Joes Conyard Herbert Olson Charles Zahn Dan O'Leary Pat Coffey William Anderson John Hughes AE Halfpop Mae Bohe John Faulner Elgan Schmitt WE Huson E Clyde Miller Frank Shea Owen Flynn Thomas McLaughlin Misses Loretta Bradlely Gertrude Boyle Anna McCathy Ethel Hannan Kate Rafferty Mary Boyle Florence Wiedeman Lea Hartigan Mae Donelly Marie Bradley Gladys Hedican Mae Schiffner Virginia Shields Lily Beck Cloyd Duval Ester Wiedeman Gertrude Nelson Aileen Goldlen Margaret Flynn Katherine Lynch Frances Larkin Grace Hartig?? Cora McLaughlin Maude Kelly Edna Riley Ann Foley Mary Osbun Mollie Leonard Ruby Johnson Saide Nordeen Lucille Downs Mary Buckley Neil Carter Adelaide Burke Mildred Renner Edith Vomaske Mabel Martin Rose McLaughlin Ethel Wiedeman Georgia Barrett Mary Bresnahan Ann Lynch Marie Stack Mary Shields Irene McLaughlin Grayce McLaughlin

The Washington State Death Index goes to at least 1989--I found my husband's biological grandfather on there and he died in 1989. It lists name, social security number (when they had one), gender, death date, age at death and death certificate number. There are two location codes, which I *think* indicate place of residence and place of death. I believe that the place codes are more specific than giving just county, because I notice on the list I copied, I have annotated the place codes with specific cities--and some of the entries were for people I never researched any farther than the death index look-up, so I don't think I got the place names from anywhere else. Melinda Montgomery > >Hello again all, > > I am aware of the Washington State Death Index that is available on >microfilm, and I believe, although the years may be off some, that it covers >years 1909 through 1962 (roughly). I have viewed the film myself in the >Spokane Public Library. I have seen the deaths listed for my >great-grandfather in 1911, and my grandfather in 1957. It lists the name of >person, date of death, age at death, place of death (county, I think), and >death certificate number. Hope this helps clear up some questions you have >on this. It's not a death record, but it is an index, covering the entire >state. > >Susan > >

Celia Just what dates do the death films cover?? When I was in WA I called Olympia and they said I couldn't check death records. What films are available and what years do they cover?? Selma Grant

-----Original Message----- From: tendick <tendick@efn.org> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 5:03 AM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Death Records >Hi, > I am new to this list. Does anyone know how I can find out when someone >died? My great grandmother Eliza Jane Bates (maiden Rhodes) .......<snipped> She >must have died in Vancouver. I am unfamiliar with how things work in WA. >Oregon's archive is online, but what about WA's? >Thank you for your help. > >Aldean Tendick >tendick@efn.org > Aldean and all, The Washington State Death Index covering that time period is available on microfilm. It will list date of death, location, and usually death certificate number. Your local library may have this, in neighboring Oregon, or perhaps a Family History Center can obtain it for you. If not, I wonder if it is possible to get a copy of the film on interlibrary loan from the Washington State Archives. Hope this helps. Good luck. Susan >

Hi, I am new to this list. Does anyone know how I can find out when someone died? My great grandmother Eliza Jane Bates (maiden Rhodes) moved to Vancouver to live with her daughter Louisa Fisk or Fish when my great grandfather Samuel Bates died in Grass Valley, OR. He died about 1924. She must have died in Vancouver. I am unfamiliar with how things work in WA. Oregon's archive is online, but what about WA's? Thank you for your help. Aldean Tendick tendick@efn.org

Both Seattle and Spokane have BIG libraries.......and both are online. Unless someone on this list lives in those areas the best bet would be to contact both libraries and ask if they will look up an OBIT for you. You hopefully have the date of the deaths. I actually phoned the main Library in Oakland, CA and the librarian there.......told me to give her a week or so.......and she would look for an obit for me.......darned if she didnt' find one and she sent it to me. I sent her $5.00 for copying and mailing and her time....although she didn't ask for anything. xxxxxxxxooooo Louise King La Jolla, CA In a message dated 8/21/98 4:24:29 AM, LSLII@aol.com wrote: >Could someone please lead me to the correct location to find out if there is >a way of finding an Obituary for the Seattle and Spokane areas. > Researching Tibbits, and Cornwell in Washington > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > Sue Lawson

Aldean...........I believe...but am not sure.....that WA State has a DEATH INDEX and if that is the case maybe someone here has access to it. If they do.......will they please let us all know. We have a death index here in CA and it is extremely helpful for finding someone.....One of the gals on our NORCAL (NO. California) mailing lists goes to the CA State Library in Sacramento every Monday......and looks up things for us. Isn't that NICE? I would assume that one of the big libraries in WA.......would have that list....it's not current here in CA.....but it goes back about 7 years. xxxxxxxxo Louise King La Jolla, CA In a message dated 8/21/98 4:03:53 AM, tendick@efn.org wrote: >Hi, > > I am new to this list. Does anyone know how I can find out when someone > >died? My great grandmother Eliza Jane Bates (maiden Rhodes) moved to > >Vancouver to live with her daughter Louisa Fisk or Fish when my great > >grandfather Samuel Bates died in Grass Valley, OR. He died about 1924. She > >must have died in Vancouver. I am unfamiliar with how things work in WA. > >Oregon's archive is online, but what about WA's? > >Thank you for your help. > > > >Aldean Tendick > >tendick@efn.org

Could someone please lead me to the correct location to find out if there is a way of finding an Obituary for the Seattle and Spokane areas. Researching Tibbits, and Cornwell in Washington Any help will be greatly appreciated. Sue Lawson

Portions of articles from Spokane Spokesman-Review circa 1925 on the backs of clippings: ....widow of the bandit, William E. WRIGHT, slain in a gun battle at Mobile after he stole $13,000 from a New Orleans bank and killed a policeman while escaping, yesterday made application at the local office of the United States veteran's bureau for the soldier's bonus she said was due her dead husband. Mrs. WRIGHT was released from the parish prison last Friday on $1000 bond on a charge of having part of the stolen money in her possession. The young widow's trial was called early last month, but on motion of District Attorney MARR for a change of venue was continued. ************* FATHERS IN CHARGE OF ENTERTAINMENT The fathers of the Emerson school parent-teacher association will have charge of the program to be given the following meeting.... W.A. KENT will lecture and illustrate the methods of drawing pictures for the children at home as a part of the general program...... ********** ......Bee DOYLE, owner of the farm, six miles from Cave City on which the entrance to Sand Cave is located, today objected to the proposed plan to dynamite the cavern after the body of Floyd COLLINS is recovered. CARMICHAEL had advised dynamiting the hole to avert a similiar tragedy. he contended that the place was so dangerous that it should be destroyed to prevent other adventurers from suffering a similar fate of death through exhaustion, starvation and thirst after being caught underground. DOYLE, who said he had received several good offers for Sand cave, objected to the dynamiting plan. he said that if the officials were going to do anything they should put the dirt back into the hole. The COLLINS shaft and lateral tunnel were dug by volunteer workers who are anxious to return to their homes as soon as COLLINS' body has been brought to the surface or efforts to recover the body are abandoned and he is buried there. There is little likelihood of the shaft and tunnel being filled up. It would takes weeks of labor to do it. ************

Will check death certs this weekend. Celia Tomlin

Does anyone have access to the Washington State Death Certificate film ?? I'm sure the films are available in the Olympia Public Library and also a number of LDS Family History centers in Washington State. I would like to get the information that is on the record for William T. Wilson, he died in Yakima in June of 1909. The Death record index reads as follows, Wilson, William T. M40 Yakima 6-1-09 certificate #187 Thanks in advance, Brad

I am trying to get a death certificate for Henry Robert Merchant who died on 5/21/1954 and his wife Lillian Merchant who died 11/20/1953. Both are buried on Clarkston Cemetery in Asotin County. If not the certificates at least the certificate numbers. Jill M. Cordone POINTer# 3791 Researching: Cordone / Martino / Falconi / Mecurio / Cimelli McLean / McKay / Hubbard / Clemans / Merchant

Another undated clipping from the Spokane Spokesman Review about 1925. Clipping also includes individual pictures of Mr. And Mrs. Doerr. I have a few more photographs of these people, even though they are not related to me. "Two Score Years of Happiness" Mr. And Mrs. Doerr Celebrate Fortieth Anniversary―Here 27 Years Mr. And Mrs. Rudolph Doerr, Jefferson apartments, celebrated their 40th wedding anniversary Sunday at the home of the son-in-law and daughter, Mr. And Mrs. E.A. Egge. Mr. And Mrs. Doerr, who have been residents of Spokane for 27 years, were married February 15, 1885 at New York city and went to Germany, their native country, on a honeymoon. "The joys of married life far out-balance the troubles in lthis everyday span of life," said Mr. Doerr, who was one of the pioneer electrical contractors in Spokane."I want to work as long as I’m able, for there is mischief sometimes for idle hands, but this is not so pronounced in those who have passed the 60-year mark as it is among younger people." Mrs. Doerr is shown holding a granddaughter, Betty Jane Egge, age 1 year, whose birthday is also February 15.