You go to the web site, enter a search. No Charge. I believe they say they have abits going back to 1960's on some of the names. It takes a long while to get them all in there. Also, these are for the names that had appeared in the Tacoma Newspaper. Michelle

Washington may require you to state what relationship who are you are with in regards to the deceased but I know I have gotten them without stating that. Also, in case some of you didn't know -- Tacoma Public Library has a database of obits online that you can order. They claim you need to be a resident of Washington for it to be free and outside of Washington I believe it is $3. I know one month it was free either way and then when I checked the next month they wanted to charge $3. [The obits I got weren't even for my family as it turned out :-( ] -- I just looked, it is now up to $5 per records.. sheeeeeeesh!!! What I did is put my name on it and sent it to my Aunts address (who lives in Washington) and she forwarded it to me. Considering we are doing this research together it is just the same as if I sent her to order it. [you didn't hear that from me.. lol] Check it out. http://www.tpl.lib.wa.us/nwr/obitscgi.htm Michelle

It would be nice to be able to order the entire database. Do they charge for a search or just if they find it? How far to the records go back? Donna "Michelle A. Day" wrote: > Also, in case some of you didn't know -- Tacoma Public Library has a > database of obits online that you can order. They claim you need to be > a resident of Washington for it to be free and outside of Washington I > believe it is $3. I know one month it was free either way and then when > I checked the next month they wanted to charge $3. [The obits I got > weren't even for my family as it turned out :-( ] -- I just looked, it > is now up to $5 per records.. sheeeeeeesh!!!

BOWKER--I have a large data base of Bowker material which I would like to add to , and share with others.Do you know of anyone who might be interested? Send me a few names and dates . All replies will be acknowledged. Gordon Bowker

Doug, Vital Statistics are public records, sort of. These records are held in Olympia, WA, the capitol of the state. I would refer you to a web site that explains how to request these records in any state in the U.S. Go to http://vitalrec.com/ It is my understanding that you will need to state your relationship to the person for whom you are requesting records, so perhaps you may need to be more specific as to if you are really related to these deceased persons or not. If you have not visited the Washington State GenWeb site, perhaps you'd like to try that, too. You may find help there. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/ Hope this helps! Susan in Spokane Searching for Bain/Bayne, Bennett, Bullock, Bussert, Evans, Helms, Hensley, Jones, Leinart, Loschen, Mason, Miller, Murry/Murray,Sadler/Saddler, Seiber, Shane, and Trauernicht. -----Original Message----- From: Doug Horner <dhorner@onlink.net> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 5:21 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Frissell > > Can anyone explain to me how and where vital statistics are kept. I would >like to know if there are restrictions on accessibility to these records >for privacy. I have four possible relatives who died between 1974 and and >1996. I suspect that these records would be considered private. > > Also can anyone advise me concerning the major newspapers in Washington. I >would like to write them concerning obituaries. > > I am interested in information on the following : > > Edna Frissell died 15 March 1989 > > Howard Frissell died April 1974 > > John Frissell died 29 March 1990 > > William Frissell died 31 Jan 1996 > >Doug Horner > doughorner@canada.com > >

Can anyone explain to me how and where vital statistics are kept. I would like to know if there are restrictions on accessibility to these records for privacy. I have four possible relatives who died between 1974 and and 1996. I suspect that these records would be considered private. Also can anyone advise me concerning the major newspapers in Washington. I would like to write them concerning obituaries. I am interested in information on the following : Edna Frissell died 15 March 1989 Howard Frissell died April 1974 John Frissell died 29 March 1990 William Frissell died 31 Jan 1996 Doug Horner doughorner@canada.com

Hello Doug Horner, You might try http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm in your search. quite a few cemeteries are posted there by county. Lots more to be posted. I am around the Spokane area; let me know if I can be of further help. Merry Christmas Bud

In a message dated 12/16/98 4:28:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, WASHINGTON-D- request@rootsweb.com writes: > Also where I could > get a listing of all cemeteries in Washington State. Hello, Just wanted to let people know that I have been compiling Clark County, WA and Portland, OR (these cities are right next to each other) contact information for Cemeteries, funeral homes, and genealogical contacts.... If anyone has one that I am missing, I would be so very grateful for any info you wish to contribute... It would benefit many folks attempting to research WA/OR from afar :-) Thank you for your time. Pat Cemetery listing page at: http://members.aol.com/gninnah/cemetery.html .

I am attempting to track down several relatives who immigrated to Washington State from Alberta, Canada sometime around the end of WW1. Our family seems to have lost track of them. I am writing a family history study on the Frissell family. Since no family member can give me any leads, I decided that I could check cemetery transcriptions. What I need to know is whether or not the cemeteries in Washington State have been transcribed. Also where I could get a listing of all cemeteries in Washington State. Could anyone give me any advice on trying to track down these individuals? I live in Ontario, Canada. William John FRISSELL born Feb 23, 1877 Severn Bridge Ontario, Canada Charles Richard FRISSELL born May 4, 1889 Severn Bridge Ontario, Canada Doug Horner doughorner@canada.com

In a message dated 12/15/98 3:07:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, dhorner@onlink.net writes: << I am attempting to track down several relatives who immigrated to Washington State from Alberta, Canada sometime around the end of WW1. Our family seems to have lost track of them. I am writing a family history study on the Frissell family. Since no family member can give me any leads, I decided that I could check cemetery transcriptions. What I need to know is whether or not the cemeteries in Washington State have been transcribed. Also where I could get a listing of all cemeteries in Washington State. Could anyone give me any advice on trying to track down these individuals? I live in Ontario, Canada. William John FRISSELL born Feb 23, 1877 Severn Bridge Ontario, Canada Charles Richard FRISSELL born May 4, 1889 Severn Bridge Ontario, Canada Doug Horner doughorner@canada.com >> Doug, Here is the results of a search of the SSDI at Ancestry.com: Name Born Died Residence Last Benefit SSN Issued CHARLES FRISSELL 19 Nov 1912 1 Mar 1992 (No Location Given) (No Location Given) 539-07-1599 Washington (before 1951) EDNA FRISSELL 25 Jun 1897 15 Mar 1989 98368 (Port Townsend, Jefferson, WA) (No Location Given) 536-52-7087 Washington (1966) HERBERT FRISSELL 1 Nov 1896 Sep 1977 98103 (Seattle, King, WA) (No Location Given) 535-44-7272 Washington (1962) HOWARD FRISSELL 30 Dec 1903 Apr 1974 99203 (Spokane, Spokane, WA) (No Location Given) 533-01-5997 Washington (Before 1951) JOHN FRISSELL 9 Dec 1919 29 Mar 1990 (No Location Given) (No Location Given) 531-16-9404 Washington (Before 1951) WILLIAM FRISSELL 11 Nov 1909 31 Jan 1996 99156 (Newport, Pend Oreille, WA) (No Location Given) 536-05-5105 Washington (Before 1951) You might try the Washington Tombstone Project at http://www.usgenweb.com/~cemetery/washing.html and the Washington State Cemetery Association at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs Hope this helps! Cheryl Hawley

Hi fellow rooters, I am in need of the following obits. I am willing to pay for costs of copying. Georgia Randall d. March 7, 1996 Raymond, Pacific, Washington Donald Crosby d. Oct. 16, 1972 Edith Lillian Crosby d. Aug. 10, 1947 Edmonds, Snohominsh, Washington Nelson Tyra Crosby d. Jun 28, 1940 Alderwood Mannor, Snohominsh, Washington Jean Bale d. Aug. 1, 1989 South Bend, Pacific, Washington John Bale d. June 1, 1997 South Bend, Pacific, Washington Kyle in TN

Looking for help locating a Dingledine Family, that of Simon Sebastian Dingledine b Jul. 25 1856 Ohio d after 1917 had at least one daughter that by 1917 was living in Alaska Have found a Lawrence Dingledine b 1901 d 1966 in Seattle, are that could be a son or grandson . If someone has access to 1880, 1900 census I would appreciate a look up. This is all I have to go on. I am open to suggestions. -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada Derek.Dingledine@sympatico.ca Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

You have a point to a point. When a person is asking about the current value of an estate, they are not usually talking about cash only. Most estates are assets that are not cash. If you look at the value of property that is a good example of how much inflation has caused the price of housing to go up. Houses you could by in 1950 for $5000 are now selling for 30,000 to 50,000 dollars. A house that sold for 17,500 in 1969 is now selling for at least three to six times that amount. Land prices have gone the same way. I would like to know where you can live like a king in AZ. I live here and it is not cheap! Our cost of living in Sacramento was much lower than in Mesa. And wages are generally lower here with NO labors to protect employees unless it is a large company. Julie > -----Original Message----- > From: RUBYdakoda@aol.com [mailto:RUBYdakoda@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 6:26 AM > To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [WASHINGTON-L] Value of estate > > > Okay......now that you went to that site.....which I also > did.......I think > something is wrong!!!!!! Last year I went there....put in > a figure of > $2,000,000 (two million).....in the year 1895. And last > year the figure came > out at about $1,230! Now.......I think that's more like it. > INFLATION..........is what it's about. Think about it. > IF you had $20,000........didn't do anything with it but > stuck it under your > bed......what would it be worth today? It would still be only > $20,000..........but inflation eats away what you can buy with it. > Soooooooo....that figure of $181,664.80 that you got from the > internet.......means .......that today........you would need > $181,664.80 to buy goods and services......that $20,00 > would have bought in > 1920!!!!!!!! > We had a big to do on NORCAL mailing list with this same > question. And we all > agreed that any amount ......ie: in the early days would diminish > tremendously in buying power. NOT go UP! > The worth of ANY amount of money is what it will buy in goods and > services.......at any certain time period......and where > you happen to live. > Now go to this URL: > http://pathfinder.com/money/bestplaces/ > It's call Best Places to Live in America. > You type in the town you live in.......and your salary!!!! > Then type in another town where you would like to live and > put in the same > salary figure. > I did this for La Jolla CA where I live.....then I typed > in Seattle where my > cousin lives. I think it turned out that I could live > almost twice as well in > Seattle as I could in La Jolla for the SAME amount of > money!!!!! That's like > saying.....hey....I make $20,000 a year and I can't afford > to live in La > Jolla. BUT in Seattle or Ohio, or Ariz........I can live > like a KING for that > money.! > Food for thought......... > xxxxxxoooo > Louise King > La Jolla, CA (average house sells for $690,000 as we speak) !! > Seattle.....about $360,000 > > In a message dated 12/7/98 20:42:20, celitoml@kcls.org wrote: > > >The site at: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ > >is quick and dirty. > >ie. $20000 in 1920 is equal to about #181664.80 or so in 1997 > >Celia > >P.S. There are other calculators > >

Julie......I was thinking more in terms of living in Ariz.....compared to La Jolla.........and I have no idea what the cost of living is in Sacramento.........Go to the URL I posted ........and check out Mesa Ariz....with Sacrament. Might be interesting. xxxxxxxoo Louise In a message dated 12/8/98 07:16:43, earthwrks@uswest.net wrote: >I would like to know where you can live like a king in AZ. I live here > >and it is not cheap! Our cost of living in Sacramento was much lower > >than in Mesa. And wages are generally lower here with NO labors to > >protect employees unless it is a large company. > > > >Julie

Okay......now that you went to that site.....which I also did.......I think something is wrong!!!!!! Last year I went there....put in a figure of $2,000,000 (two million).....in the year 1895. And last year the figure came out at about $1,230! Now.......I think that's more like it. INFLATION..........is what it's about. Think about it. IF you had $20,000........didn't do anything with it but stuck it under your bed......what would it be worth today? It would still be only $20,000..........but inflation eats away what you can buy with it. Soooooooo....that figure of $181,664.80 that you got from the internet.......means .......that today........you would need $181,664.80 to buy goods and services......that $20,00 would have bought in 1920!!!!!!!! We had a big to do on NORCAL mailing list with this same question. And we all agreed that any amount ......ie: in the early days would diminish tremendously in buying power. NOT go UP! The worth of ANY amount of money is what it will buy in goods and services.......at any certain time period......and where you happen to live. Now go to this URL: http://pathfinder.com/money/bestplaces/ It's call Best Places to Live in America. You type in the town you live in.......and your salary!!!! Then type in another town where you would like to live and put in the same salary figure. I did this for La Jolla CA where I live.....then I typed in Seattle where my cousin lives. I think it turned out that I could live almost twice as well in Seattle as I could in La Jolla for the SAME amount of money!!!!! That's like saying.....hey....I make $20,000 a year and I can't afford to live in La Jolla. BUT in Seattle or Ohio, or Ariz........I can live like a KING for that money.! Food for thought......... xxxxxxoooo Louise King La Jolla, CA (average house sells for $690,000 as we speak) !! Seattle.....about $360,000 In a message dated 12/7/98 20:42:20, celitoml@kcls.org wrote: >The site at: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ >is quick and dirty. >ie. $20000 in 1920 is equal to about #181664.80 or so in 1997 >Celia >P.S. There are other calculators

The site at: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/ is quick and dirty. ie. $20000 in 1920 is equal to about #181664.80 or so in 1997 Celia P.S. There are other calculators.

To Bev and others, There is a book often found in your public library called: The value of a dollar : prices and incomes in the United States... by Derks, Scott. This will give a rough estimate to convert to today's money. But I agree with Susan's husband, it depends. Another book to look for is : Almanacs of American Life: Modern America 1914-1945 by Ross Gregory, which will also help. These both list prices for a variety of items, food, gas, power, etc. Celia Tomlin

I am researching my greatgrandmother Lillian Clemans Merchant. She was born March 09, 1875 in Blanca, Arkansas. She settled in Clarkston, Asotin Co., Washington with her parents William and Isobel Clemans. William and Isobel were founders of Asotin County. They should be easy to research but it is not. Lillian is also hard to track although she had a full and public life. She was the superintendent of schools in Washington State. I don't know exactly where. Her husband Henry Robert Merchant, Sr. was also very famous in the community but records have been hard to come by. I do know that there is a Museum that the Merchants paid for and my ggrandfather started Merchant Funeral homes in Clarkston. If anyone has any way of finding any records on the following let me know: William Clemans Merchant b June 02, 1910 d July 19, 1970 Clarkston, WA Lillian Clemans Merchant b March 09, 1875 Blanca, AR d November 20, 1953 Clarkston, WA Henry Robert Merchant b January 11, 1875 Marinette, WI d May 26, 1954 Clarkston, WA William J. Clemans b possibly in Georgia moved to Clarkston but left for AZ at some point Isobel Clemans b possibly in Arkansas moved to Clarkston but left for AZ at some point Thank you, Jill M. Cordone

Hi: I am new to the Washington list. I am attempting to find ANY information about the following: Joshua Jesse Wright (He went by Jesse J. Wright), born 20 Oct 1877, Port Austin, Huron Co, MI; d. Lynwood, Snohomish Co., WA; buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Seattle, WA. He was the son of Jesse C. Wright & Eliza J. Provorse (I have their ancestors). He lived at 1010 N.E. 89th Street, and owned a laundry. The only known child was: Don Wright (listed on the death certificate) ANY information as to Jesse Wright's wife, children, etc would be greatly appreciated. He was my great uncle, and I would like to be able to fill out his line. Thank you, Lynton C. Stewart lstewart@pacbell.net

-----Original Message----- From: Bev Crump <Ebby@Greatnorthern.net> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 2:27 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Value of estate >When my great grandfather died in 1927, his estate was worth just under >$20,000.00. Does anyone have any idea of what that value might be in >today's dollars? > > Bev and all, I thought your question about the value of the 1927 estate in today's dollars was very interesting. I asked my husband's spin on this (no, he's not an economist or banker, but the answer is a good one to keep in mind), and here's his thought: "That depends entirely on how the assets were distributed. Real estate in North Dakota has not increased as fast as downtown Seattle, for example. Funds invested in a bank would have increased with interest that would average about 1.5% over the years, compounded annually. Stocks would be worth whatever they are worth ... if the estate consisted of stock in Ford Motors the estate would be worth a bunch more than if it was based on stocks in a bankrupt bank that didn't survive the depression." Lots of stuff to consider when answering your interesting question! Susan Searching for Bain/Bayne, Bennett, Bullock, Bussert, Evans, Helms, Hensley, Jones, Leinart, Loschen, Mason, Miller, Murry/Murray,Sadler/Saddler, Seiber, Shane, and Trauernicht. -----Original Message----- From: Bev Crump <Ebby@Greatnorthern.net> To: WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com <WASHINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, December 06, 1998 2:27 PM Subject: [WASHINGTON-L] Value of estate >When my great grandfather died in 1927, his estate was worth just under >$20,000.00. Does anyone have any idea of what that value might be in >today's dollars? > >