I read John Maltby's email from 12/17/00 with interest. Did all of New York have an 1825 census? Was it all listed in the December 1998 issue of "Tree Talks? I would be very interested in Oneida County, and specifically in Luther and Martin Washburn, father and son. I did note that John wrote of a Luther Washburn with 5 males and 2 females in Kingsbury of Washington County, but don't think he is on my line. If John would be so kind as to check for the listings in Oneida County for me I would be extremely greatful. Diane Rice in Michigan