John, Thank you for the transcript of the Solomon Washburn Will. In a message dated 7/15/00 1:39:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jamaltby@creative.net writes: << 4. Reuben Washburn, born ca. 1783, (calculated from his age in the 1850 census), baptized in East Bridgewater on 26 Sept. 1784, was living in Troy, VT, when his father wrote his will in 1825, but was back living with his son, Lewis Washburn, in North Bridgewater, MA, by the 1850 census. I don't know the name of his wife. >> I would suspect that Reuben was not "Living" with his son, but rather visiting. Solomon Washburn himself said that the Reuben of Troy, VT was his son. Reuben Washburn is still residing in Troy, VT in 1840, but what is more, Reuben is a resident of Troy, VT in 1851 when he writes to the pension board requesting Bounty Land to which he may be entitled, based on the act of 28 Sep 1850. It is unlikely that he left Troy, VT only to return there, what is more is wife is still living in 1850 and would have been with him. Reuben Washburn did not live long enough to claim a pension on his 1812 service, but his widow did. She provides the missing information on who Reuben married and where they went. Abstract of the War of 1812 widow's pension for widow Olive Washburn on the military service of her deceased husband Reuben Washburn as found in the pension, service and bounty land files at the National Archives, Washington, D.C. Reuben Washburn as a resident of Troy, VT in 1851 obtained an 80 acre warrant based from the act of 28 Sep 1850 on his service in the 2d Regiment of Vermont Militia under Captain Mason and Colonel Fifield. He sold the land and in 1855 He applied for further land based on the act of 3 Mar 1855 at which time he was a resident of Trumbull County, Ohio. I would suspect he used part of the land he had gotten in 1851 to move to Ohio, and sold a portion, and a few years later applied further land. Reuben Washburn died 25 May 1861 in Bristol, Trumbull Co., Ohio In 1871 the passage of the pension act for the War of 1812 went through Congress. Reuben's widow Olive was still living and applied for the pension, and she brought forth the family Bible to prove her marriage and it said Reuben Washburn married Olive GRANT 5 Dec 1812 Troy, Orleans Co., VT The family Bible states that Reuben Died 25 JUNE 1861 a month later than the other records in the file state. As witnesses in 1872 Urial Atwood, age 22 and William Atwood age 18 both residents of Plymouth Co., MA state that they were at the OH funeral in 1861 [They are probably grandsons] By the time the widow Olive Washburn applies for the pension in 1871 she is 83 years old and has moved back to North Bridgewater, MA Probably to be near family. I would suspect that The Reuben Washburn seen in the 1850 census of MA is either a different Reuben, or it is this Reuben, VISITING not LIVING with a child. Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

I believe that most of us are aware of how dangerous the internet can be if we let our guard down to such things as identify theft or even stalking. For those of you who are members of the Washburn-L list that have chosen to follow the path to create a Washburn Family Association...may I suggest the following method of communication...just an idea, of course. What I did using my Outlook Express Book was to create a "Washburn" listing using the names & E-Mail addresses of those interested members....this bypasses sending information directly to the "L" listing. I am sure that most E-Mail systems have the same capabilities and this will eliminate the sharing of personal information to the entire board. Lyn C. -----Original Message----- From: Woodside <woodside@Bicnet.net> To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com <WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: Personal Security Caution! > > >Dear Washburn List > >I have noticed a number of people giving out their home addresses on the Washburn List recently. Be very careful to whom you give such information. Making personal information readily available to the public in a forum such as this does carry some risk. Just look up your own name in the Rootsweb Archives (or almost any search engine that brings you back to Rootsweb) and you'll see how easy it is for total strangers - not necessarily even people who subscribe to a genealogical list - to find out where you live once you have posted that information. > >Be VERY careful to whom you do give this information- you do not know people you meet on the internet....no matter how nice they may seem. Be certain before you give such information that you don't mind ANYONE in a public forum knowing all about you. Genealogy has become a universal hobby. It may surprise you to learn that there are a significant number of prison inmates working on family history: they have the time and the access! (According to several Society Historians' accounts, it is even not uncommon for inmates to apply for membership to heritage societies.) Unable to go to research facilities, they do most of their work through the vast resources of the internet. The dark side of this is that it has become a significant new source of theft - numbers of convicts have been caught networking with crooks on the outside to share and abuse the personal data they glean in this manner. > >There has been an enormous increase in identity theft lately. Once a thief has your mother's maiden name and your address he or she can easily become you long enough to empty your accounts and destroy your credit. You won't know about it until it's too late. It can take years to reverse the damage. > >And we are also cautioned about ever sending a personal check to someone whom you don't know. Along with your personal information, the account numbers printed on your checks may enable a thief to make a withdrawal of funds from your account well beyond the check amount. It does not pay to take chances. > >Just a friendly word of caution. The internet has opened a LOT of doors - good and bad. Don't let a bad experience be YOUR teacher! > >Barbara Dudley Washburn-Lienhard >Woodside@Bicnet.net

To List, I totally agree with this.... we all need to be more careful! Sandra

Dear Washburn List I have noticed a number of people giving out their home addresses on the Washburn List recently. Be very careful to whom you give such information. Making personal information readily available to the public in a forum such as this does carry some risk. Just look up your own name in the Rootsweb Archives (or almost any search engine that brings you back to Rootsweb) and you'll see how easy it is for total strangers - not necessarily even people who subscribe to a genealogical list - to find out where you live once you have posted that information. Be VERY careful to whom you do give this information- you do not know people you meet on the internet....no matter how nice they may seem. Be certain before you give such information that you don't mind ANYONE in a public forum knowing all about you. Genealogy has become a universal hobby. It may surprise you to learn that there are a significant number of prison inmates working on family history: they have the time and the access! (According to several Society Historians' accounts, it is even not uncommon for inmates to apply for membership to heritage societies.) Unable to go to research facilities, they do most of their work through the vast resources of the internet. The dark side of this is that it has become a significant new source of theft - numbers of convicts have been caught networking with crooks on the outside to share and abuse the personal data they glean in this manner. There has been an enormous increase in identity theft lately. Once a thief has your mother's maiden name and your address he or she can easily become you long enough to empty your accounts and destroy your credit. You won't know about it until it's too late. It can take years to reverse the damage. And we are also cautioned about ever sending a personal check to someone whom you don't know. Along with your personal information, the account numbers printed on your checks may enable a thief to make a withdrawal of funds from your account well beyond the check amount. It does not pay to take chances. Just a friendly word of caution. The internet has opened a LOT of doors - good and bad. Don't let a bad experience be YOUR teacher! Barbara Dudley Washburn-Lienhard Woodside@Bicnet.net

If data was missing it was probably my fault...I'm not too swift yet, computer-wise. My address is Joanne Benne 10570 Baker Rd. Platte City, MO 64079 cjbenne1@aol.com

I can't believe I did that. First thing, right off the bat -- and I looked it over half a dozen times. Isaac was born 1712, not 1721. Hi Cousins, I posted these to the Family_Bibles list a few weeks ago and thought perhaps they might be of interest to some of you as well. This Bible belonged to my 4ggrf and is in the possession of the family. It relates to a line of Washburns descending from William of Long Island, John, John, John, and now Isaac of Westchester Co., NY It was published in England in 1753 and the information was apparently in Isaac's own hand as he speaks in the first person. Later entries are in other hands, perhaps at the time of the events. The Bible is in poor condition, being obviously well-used. WASHBOURN-WASHBURN-WORSHBOURN BIBLE _(illegible)_ of Isaac Washbourn and his wife Mehetebel, their issue male and female. I was Born my the 26th Day of December - 1712 my Wife as above I suppofe was Born in the year 1715 Our Daughter Hannah was Born the 5th of November 1740 Our Daughter martha was Born 16th of October - 1742 Our Daughter mary was Born the 24th of December 1744 Our Daughter Charrity was Born the 11th day of may - 1747 Our Daughter Libbe was Born the first Day of october - 1750 Our Son Isaac was Born the 7th day of april - 1752 Our Son Jacob was Born and Diseased the 17th of November -1762 our Son zephaniah was Bornyd 10th Day of october - 1759 my Wife Diseased the laft Day of february - 1760 (I note Jacob's date of 1762 is as stated but obviously incorrect. I wonder if he meant 1756?) ----------------------------------------- my Second wife hannah wafhbourn was Born November the 9th 1724 we was married July 20th 1760 our Daughter mehitebel was born December ye 6th 1762 my Second wife hannah Diseased July in the year 1768 ---------------------------------------- my third wife mary washbourn was Born auguft the 18th 1733 we was married July in the year 1770 our Son Jacob was Born the 12th Day of april - 1771 ---------------------------------------- John worshbourn son of Isaac Worshbourn was born May 26th and diseased 1773 Rubin Worshbourn son of Do was Bourn June 12th 1775 Richard Worshbourn was Born the 9th Day of December in the year 1779 _(illegible)___ Worshbourn was Born 30th May the year 1780 Jefse Mabry son of Simon Mabry was Born September 17th 1774 Isaac Worshbourn was born April 7th 1752 Sally Worshbourn was born November 12th 1762 we was married september - 1781 my son John was born march 22th - 1784 my son Zephaniah was born october 10th - 1785 my son Richard was born January 26th - 1787 my son Benjamine was born november 18th - 1788 my son Isaac Jun. was born september 20th - 1790 my son James was born august the 23 - 1792 my Daughter hannah was born July 27th - 1794 my Daughter Mary september 3th - 1796 my son samuel was born march 13th - 1798 and diseasd that August 15th my Daughter sary was born December 31th - 1800 my son Joshua was born July 20th 1802 my son zephaniah died march 25th 1813 Isaac Washburn Died Sept 14th - 1829 Sarah Washburn Died April 20th 1839 Our Son Samuel Died August 15th 1798 Our Son Zephaniah Died March 25th 1813 our Daughter Sarah Died August 16th 1821 Our Daughter Mary Died September 18th 1842 * * * It might be helpful to researchers to know some of the surnames that married into this family: Gedney - Moore - Scott - Ryel - Purdy - Yates - Wager - Francisco - Lovejoy - Fisher - Ketchum - Read - Gage - Dains - Arthur - Fake - King Isaac b. 1752 and his family eventually settled in Ontario Co., NY. Some of his children went to MI. This Bible is that of my 2ggrfather, youngest child of Isaac Washburn, Jr. as listed in the Washburn Bible posted above. He lived in Gorham Twp., Ontario Co., NY in a community known as Crystal Beach along the east side of Canandaigua Lake. The original Bible is in possession of a descendant of his second marriage and the information has been duly hand-copied and verified as follows. Parenthetical notations are mine. Joshua Washburn Born Jul 20, 1802 Died April 1, 1880 Christina Washburn Born March 20, 1806 Died May 31, 1844 (w/o Joshua. Their Children were all born in Gorham Twp., Ontario Co., NY) Norman Washburn born March 26, 1827 (d. ca. 1900; md. Caroline Fisher) Marshall S. Washburn born March 27, 1830 Died June 24, 1849 (drowned saving siblings) Marvin G. Washburn born Nov. 18, 1834 Died April 23, 1924 (md. Philinda Fake) Richard C. Washburn born May 25, 1837 Died May 7, 1844 Mary E. Washburn born June 2, 1843 Died Aug. 26, 1884 (md. William Christian Fisher, brother of Caroline) (Children of 2nd marriage to Phebe Ketcham:) Edwin J. Washburn (twin) born Oct. 1, 1846 (unmar.) Died Mar _?_ 1930 Edward J. Washburn (twin) born Oct. 1, 1846 (unmar.) Died Nov. 16, 1921 (He was an invalid) Sarah C. Washburn born July 13, 1848 Died April -?- 1908 (in Penn Yan - she md. __ Lewis) Alida E. Washburn born Jan. 9, 1850 (md. __ Lewis, also) Charles W. Washburn (twin) born March 8, 1852 Died Nov. -?- 1925 (md. Alice____) William C. Washburn (twin) born March 8, 1852 (md. Eleanor ___) Died May 28, 1924 Joshua K. Washburn born Jan. 18, 1854 Died Oct. 7, 1943 (md. Mary A. Smith) Marsil (Marshall) Washburn born Aug. 14, 1858 Died Oct. -?- 1858 Phebe Washburn died March 18, 1902 (second wife of Joshua) Philetus W. Porter d. June 22, 1923 (child of Phebe by m1 - b. 1839) (Joshua was s/o Isaac and Sarah (Purdy) Washburn from Dutchess Co., NY Christina was d/o Ephraim and Cornelia (Francisco) Wager from Rensselaer Co., NY Phebe was d/o Joseph and Ollie (VanNess) Ketcham from Rensselaer Co., NY Caroline and William C. Fisher were children of Christian and Candace (Case) Fisher from Rensselaer Co. All families later of Ontario Co.) To aid researchers, some surnames that married into this family were: Wager, Ketcham, Fisher, Case, Fake, Lewis, Smith. Hope this helps someone further their line. If you make a connection, I'd love for you to tell me about it. Lyn

Hi Cousins, I posted these to the Family_Bibles list a few weeks ago and thought perhaps they might be of interest to some of you as well. This Bible belonged to my 4ggrf and is in the possession of the family. It relates to a line of Washburns descending from William of Long Island, John, John, John, and now Isaac of Westchester Co., NY It was published in England in 1753 and the information was apparently in Isaac's own hand as he speaks in the first person. Later entries are in other hands, perhaps at the time of the events. The Bible is in poor condition, being obviously well-used. WASHBOURN-WASHBURN-WORSHBOURN BIBLE _(illegible)_ of Isaac Washbourn and his wife Mehetebel, their issue male and female. I was Born my the 26th Day of December - 1721 my Wife as above I suppofe was Born in the year 1715 Our Daughter Hannah was Born the 5th of November 1740 Our Daughter martha was Born 16th of October - 1742 Our Daughter mary was Born the 24th of December 1744 Our Daughter Charrity was Born the 11th day of may - 1747 Our Daughter Libbe was Born the first Day of october - 1750 Our Son Isaac was Born the 7th day of april - 1752 Our Son Jacob was Born and Diseased the 17th of November -1762 our Son zephaniah was Bornyd 10th Day of october - 1759 my Wife Diseased the laft Day of february - 1760 (I note Jacob's date of 1762 is as stated but obviously incorrect. I wonder if he meant 1756?) ----------------------------------------- my Second wife hannah wafhbourn was Born November the 9th 1724 we was married July 20th 1760 our Daughter mehitebel was born December ye 6th 1762 my Second wife hannah Diseased July in the year 1768 ---------------------------------------- my third wife mary washbourn was Born auguft the 18th 1733 we was married July in the year 1770 our Son Jacob was Born the 12th Day of april - 1771 ---------------------------------------- John worshbourn son of Isaac Worshbourn was born May 26th and diseased 1773 Rubin Worshbourn son of Do was Bourn June 12th 1775 Richard Worshbourn was Born the 9th Day of December in the year 1779 _(illegible)___ Worshbourn was Born 30th May the year 1780 Jefse Mabry son of Simon Mabry was Born September 17th 1774 Isaac Worshbourn was born April 7th 1752 Sally Worshbourn was born November 12th 1762 we was married september - 1781 my son John was born march 22th - 1784 my son Zephaniah was born october 10th - 1785 my son Richard was born January 26th - 1787 my son Benjamine was born november 18th - 1788 my son Isaac Jun. was born september 20th - 1790 my son James was born august the 23 - 1792 my Daughter hannah was born July 27th - 1794 my Daughter Mary september 3th - 1796 my son samuel was born march 13th - 1798 and diseasd that August 15th my Daughter sary was born December 31th - 1800 my son Joshua was born July 20th 1802 my son zephaniah died march 25th 1813 Isaac Washburn Died Sept 14th - 1829 Sarah Washburn Died April 20th 1839 Our Son Samuel Died August 15th 1798 Our Son Zephaniah Died March 25th 1813 our Daughter Sarah Died August 16th 1821 Our Daughter Mary Died September 18th 1842 * * * It might be helpful to researchers to know some of the surnames that married into this family: Gedney - Moore - Scott - Ryel - Purdy - Yates - Wager - Francisco - Lovejoy - Fisher - Ketchum - Read - Gage - Dains - Arthur - Fake - King Isaac b. 1752 and his family eventually settled in Ontario Co., NY. Some of his children went to MI. This Bible is that of my 2ggrfather, youngest child of Isaac Washburn, Jr. as listed in the Washburn Bible posted above. He lived in Gorham Twp., Ontario Co., NY in a community known as Crystal Beach along the east side of Canandaigua Lake. The original Bible is in possession of a descendant of his second marriage and the information has been duly hand-copied and verified as follows. Parenthetical notations are mine. Joshua Washburn Born Jul 20, 1802 Died April 1, 1880 Christina Washburn Born March 20, 1806 Died May 31, 1844 (w/o Joshua. Their Children were all born in Gorham Twp., Ontario Co., NY) Norman Washburn born March 26, 1827 (d. ca. 1900; md. Caroline Fisher) Marshall S. Washburn born March 27, 1830 Died June 24, 1849 (drowned saving siblings) Marvin G. Washburn born Nov. 18, 1834 Died April 23, 1924 (md. Philinda Fake) Richard C. Washburn born May 25, 1837 Died May 7, 1844 Mary E. Washburn born June 2, 1843 Died Aug. 26, 1884 (md. William Christian Fisher, brother of Caroline) (Children of 2nd marriage to Phebe Ketcham:) Edwin J. Washburn (twin) born Oct. 1, 1846 (unmar.) Died Mar _?_ 1930 Edward J. Washburn (twin) born Oct. 1, 1846 (unmar.) Died Nov. 16, 1921 (He was an invalid) Sarah C. Washburn born July 13, 1848 Died April -?- 1908 (in Penn Yan - she md. __ Lewis) Alida E. Washburn born Jan. 9, 1850 (md. __ Lewis, also) Charles W. Washburn (twin) born March 8, 1852 Died Nov. -?- 1925 (md. Alice____) William C. Washburn (twin) born March 8, 1852 (md. Eleanor ___) Died May 28, 1924 Joshua K. Washburn born Jan. 18, 1854 Died Oct. 7, 1943 (md. Mary A. Smith) Marsil (Marshall) Washburn born Aug. 14, 1858 Died Oct. -?- 1858 Phebe Washburn died March 18, 1902 (second wife of Joshua) Philetus W. Porter d. June 22, 1923 (child of Phebe by m1 - b. 1839) (Joshua was s/o Isaac and Sarah (Purdy) Washburn from Dutchess Co., NY Christina was d/o Ephraim and Cornelia (Francisco) Wager from Rensselaer Co., NY Phebe was d/o Joseph and Ollie (VanNess) Ketcham from Rensselaer Co., NY Caroline and William C. Fisher were children of Christian and Candace (Case) Fisher from Rensselaer Co. All families later of Ontario Co.) To aid researchers, some surnames that married into this family were: Wager, Ketcham, Fisher, Case, Fake, Lewis, Smith. Hope this helps someone further their line. If you make a connection, I'd love for you to tell me about it. Lyn

Linda M. Fitzmeyer 13969 Shipwreck Circle North Jacksonville, Florida 32224-1121 904-223-4345

In a message dated 6/23/2000 6:23:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, MChambe486@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: Washburn of Washington County NY Date: 6/23/2000 6:23:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: MChambe486@aol.com Reply-to: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com Hello Jean, Thank you for responding to my entry about the WASHBURN line that I am researching. I have had an amazing amount of replies. I believe that Consider WHITE & Sarah W. lived in Troy before moving to Greenwich NY. They were members of the Old Baptist Ch there and he was involved in the Freemasons in Troy and in Cheshire MA. I have a record that shows that he was a Founding Pioneer of the Freemason Lodge in Cheshire in 1794, as was Asa BIGELOW, his brother-in-law. Asa marr Abigail WASHBURN. ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <.WASHBURN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-st06.mail.aol.com (rly-st06.mail.aol.com [172.31.34.5]) by air-yd04.mail.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:23:00 -0400 Received: from rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.33]) by rly-st06.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA23464; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-yc01.mx.aol.com (v74.17) with ESMTP; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:08:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id e5ND7ew05702; Fri, 23 Jun 2000 06:07:40 -0700 Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 06:07:40 -0700 X-Original-Sender: MChambe486@aol.com Fri Jun 23 06:07:39 2000 From: MChambe486@aol.com Message-ID: <90.615886d.2684baef@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:06:55 EDT Subject: Re: Washburn of Washington County NY Old-To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <.Qw8mnD.A.9YB.bE2U5@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <.WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1365 X-Loop: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WASHBURN-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Thank you for your kind response. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Would you have more information on the Bigelow family? Thank you, Jean Sanders

Upon closer inspection, I see that Benjamin, son of Jonathan Washburn was a claimant for a land grant as a result of his father having served in King Philip's War. Thus, I'm sure that it was indeed Jonathan, son of John and Margery the served. I would still like to know if anyone has any information on Jonathan's service during the war. Harry Merrihew mactavishll@mediaone.net

In the lastest of the postings for men who served in King Philip's War are listed Jonathan Washburn and son Benjamin. According to my information, Jonathan, son of John and Margery was born abt. 1654 and his son would not have been old enough to serve. Was is John (husband of Margery) and his son Benjamin that really served? Does anyone have any information about the involvement of the Washburns in King Philip's War? Harry Merrihew mactavishll@mediaone.net

Hi Alice. At 12:38 PM 7/16/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Thanks John. Do you know if any of the neighbors also went to Hebron, Maine? I do not know. > Have you run across the will of Elijah CASWELL (father of Sylvia CASWELL, >Manassah's wife)? Just a thought. Again thanks for the info. >Alice Gordon > If Elijah Caswell died in Plymouth Co., MA, he apparently did not leave an estate that was probated. He is not listed in the Plymouth County Probate Index. If he died in Bristol County after 1762 then perhaps you should look there. I have not. I have Peter Rounds' Bristol County Probate Abstracts, Vol. 1 & 2, and do not see Elijah Caswell listed there. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net

Thanks, Susan. This is great information that is not readily available to most researchers. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net At 04:42 PM 7/15/2000 EDT, you wrote: >This is an example of how vital record indexes may lead you astray. I don't >at present have the solution to the puzzle, but it may serve as guidance for >those stuck on female lines. It is the reason you do not stop collecting >information just because you think you have the answer. > >The Vermont Vital record index pre 1871 lists: > >Heman Washburn married Almeda Bliss 14 Aug 1825 Shelburn, VT >Heman Washburn died 7 Apr 1848 age 53 > >No children were found in the Vermont Vital record index >It would seem very straightford that Heman married a BLISS search the BLISS >lines for someone with a daughter named Almeda > >In the National Archives Washington, D.C. is a file called RG 15 Bounty land >Warrant applications from it comes the following. Unfortunately you need to >go to Washington, D.C. to view it, it is impossible to photocopy. It is >sealed with an old fashioned seal over 130 years old. To break the seal is >to destroy the integrity of the document. It is a long bifolded paper with >slits made in the top and a ribbon put through them. The ribbons are crossed >over the front and a seal glues them down. >You can look inside but can only photo copy the front and back and the bottom >portions of the inside edge. > >31 Jul 1855 Medina Co., OH >Almeda E. Norton of Harrisville, Medina Co., OH mother of Eldridge Washburn, >deceased soldier of 3rd Reg. U.S. Infantry, Mexican War >Almeda claims she is the mother of Eldrige Washburn >Eldridge Washburn died 4 Jun 1851 Fort Leavensworth [Kansas] and left no >widow, child or father living >She submits the family record & affidavit of Augusta M. Alford & Sarah E. >Smith. She drew the back pay of Eldridge Washburn on 7 Jan 1851 under the >name of Almeda E. Washburn but has since remarried She is applying for >bounty land under the act of 1855 > >Copy of Family record >Heman Washburn was born 1792 >Almeda E. Chase was born in 1802 >Amerilla M. Washburn born in 1825 >Eldridge Washburn born in 1828 > Marriages >Heman Washburn & Almeda E. CHASE was married August 14th 1825 >Amerilla M. Washburn was married to Elon G. Shepherd May 1st 1851 >Mrs Almeda E. Washburn was married to Joseph Norton August 29th 1855 > >Deaths >Heman Washburn diied April 5th 1847 >Eldridge Washburn died June 14th 1851 > > >So was Almeda a BLISS or was she a CHASE? > >I would suspect that she was a CHASE, when writing up the family record she >probably though of her maiden name. Chances are good she is the widow of a >BLISS. The only way to solve the puzzle is to tract down the families of >BLISS and CHASE and test the theory. > >So don't stop lookng when you find the name in a vital record index. > >Susan Bingler >Fairfax, VA > >

Thanks John. Do you know if any of the neighbors also went to Hebron, Maine? Have you run across the will of Elijah CASWELL (father of Sylvia CASWELL, Manassah's wife)? Just a thought. Again thanks for the info. Alice Gordon

I have a Frank Washburn in my family. A property deed says name Franklin and wife is Mary. I know for sure he was born in Holyoke, Mass. abt.1856. I know that this dosen't fit the time or place you mentioned but it is one blind alley you won't go down. Been there done that ! GRRRR. Happy Hunting Estelle Washburn Landry

Alice, I know that several people on the list are searching for the parents of Manassah, and I have also been keeping an eye out for him. I have not placed him yet. He was not a son of Ephraim Washburn and Mary Polden/Polland, as first thought. The division of the estate of Ephraim Washburn pretty clearly identifies all his children. Japheth was one of them, but Manassah was not. In the 1790 census Manassah was still living in Middleborough, MA. The closest Washburn family was that of Thomas Washburn, a few houses away. Other close neighbors were Samuel Benson, David Vaughn Jr., Isaac Benson, Ezra Harris, John Holmes, Church Holmes and Jacob Shaw. If he were adopted or illegitimate chances are his name would have appeared in court records and it would have probably been noticed by now, but that is still a possibility. Illegitimacy cases sometimes did not name the child, so we're left wondering. I found no deeds where Manassah sold land in Middleborough before his move up to Maine, which was disappointing, but there is a possibility that a deed of someone else will give a clue as to the father of Manassah. I have not found it yet. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net At 11:54 AM 7/15/2000 EDT, you wrote: >Hi John, >Many thanks for all your excellent scholarship on the WASHBURN lines. Do you >suppose that Manassah WASHBURN could have been from this family? Anne >Raymond and I have been looking but not found his parents anywhere. We think >his father was named Ephraim but only because his first son was so named. >Could he have been adopted or an illegitimate son -- what would be the proof >in such a situation? Any thoughts? > >Again many thanks for all your fine work. >Alice Gordon > > John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net

Hello list, I have been assuming that I am of Washburn descent, but I am wondering if anyone could help me document my line. My Washburn line (not documented): Lemuel LEACH m. Rebecca WASHBURN Oct. 12, 1767 in Bridgewater, MA. Barnabus LEACH, born abt. 1783, MA m. Anna ??? Elisha Washburn LEACH, born 1806, Wendell MA, m. Elvira RIFLE in Wisconsin bef. 1858. Can anyone offer proof of these people. I am relying on poor documentation and would love to prove this line once and for all. I have sent to Wisconsin for records of Elisha and Elvira's children. I am waiting for those records. Thanks for your help, Lori Huntley

This is an example of how vital record indexes may lead you astray. I don't at present have the solution to the puzzle, but it may serve as guidance for those stuck on female lines. It is the reason you do not stop collecting information just because you think you have the answer. The Vermont Vital record index pre 1871 lists: Heman Washburn married Almeda Bliss 14 Aug 1825 Shelburn, VT Heman Washburn died 7 Apr 1848 age 53 No children were found in the Vermont Vital record index It would seem very straightford that Heman married a BLISS search the BLISS lines for someone with a daughter named Almeda In the National Archives Washington, D.C. is a file called RG 15 Bounty land Warrant applications from it comes the following. Unfortunately you need to go to Washington, D.C. to view it, it is impossible to photocopy. It is sealed with an old fashioned seal over 130 years old. To break the seal is to destroy the integrity of the document. It is a long bifolded paper with slits made in the top and a ribbon put through them. The ribbons are crossed over the front and a seal glues them down. You can look inside but can only photo copy the front and back and the bottom portions of the inside edge. 31 Jul 1855 Medina Co., OH Almeda E. Norton of Harrisville, Medina Co., OH mother of Eldridge Washburn, deceased soldier of 3rd Reg. U.S. Infantry, Mexican War Almeda claims she is the mother of Eldrige Washburn Eldridge Washburn died 4 Jun 1851 Fort Leavensworth [Kansas] and left no widow, child or father living She submits the family record & affidavit of Augusta M. Alford & Sarah E. Smith. She drew the back pay of Eldridge Washburn on 7 Jan 1851 under the name of Almeda E. Washburn but has since remarried She is applying for bounty land under the act of 1855 Copy of Family record Heman Washburn was born 1792 Almeda E. Chase was born in 1802 Amerilla M. Washburn born in 1825 Eldridge Washburn born in 1828 Marriages Heman Washburn & Almeda E. CHASE was married August 14th 1825 Amerilla M. Washburn was married to Elon G. Shepherd May 1st 1851 Mrs Almeda E. Washburn was married to Joseph Norton August 29th 1855 Deaths Heman Washburn diied April 5th 1847 Eldridge Washburn died June 14th 1851 So was Almeda a BLISS or was she a CHASE? I would suspect that she was a CHASE, when writing up the family record she probably though of her maiden name. Chances are good she is the widow of a BLISS. The only way to solve the puzzle is to tract down the families of BLISS and CHASE and test the theory. So don't stop lookng when you find the name in a vital record index. Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

Thank You Valerie

> I have not been able to determine the parents of William, and any help in > this regard would be much appreciated. According to Brenton Washburne's book the line from William goes back like this: Solomon Washburn (b. 1777 in Duxbury MA; d. 4/18/1848 in Duxbury MA) m. Hannah Winsor (b. 5/20/1785 in Duxbury MA) on 1/31/1805 in Duxbury MA. John Washburn (b. 5/8/1730 in Plymouth MA; d. 1812) m. Lydia Prince (b. 1735; d. 5/12/1782) on 4/10/1755 John Washburn (b. 4/19/1699 in Plymouth MA; d. 5/22/1768 in Plymouth MA) m. Abigail Johnson (d. 9/24/1782 in Plymouth MA) on 5/28/1727. John Washburn (b. 1671; d. 6/27/1750 in Kingson MA) m. Lydia Billington (d. 9/22/1716) in 1698. Philip Washburn (b. 1624 in Bengeworth, England; d. c. 1701) m Elizabeth Irish. Bill Betts Center Cross, Virginia