Hi Bill, Once again I hit the jackpot with you Bill. You helped me with James' parents last summer. I can't thank you enough for your help. Marc Chambers In a cold Virinia Beach

Some of the information on the Isaiah Washburn line is as follows Virgil S. White Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pensions [This is an abstract of the pension files at the National Archives - I also have a copy of the portion of the file] Isaiah Washburn born 1754 Middleborough, MA and lived there at enlistment soldier applied 7 May 1822 Bradford Co., PA resided in Windham Township and died there 6 Jan 1840 leaving children who in 1852 were Isaiah, Silas, Abiel Washburn - who was aged 64 in 1849 & Sally (Washburn) Hotchkiss From the VItal Records of Middleborough Published record vol. 1 p. 143 which is a transcript of p. 74 of the original records Isaiah Washburn son of Ruben Washburn by Betty his wife was born November 27th 1754 p. 144 Isaiah Washburn & Priscilla Wood were married 20 Jul 1775 Middleborough, MA [Priscilla was the daughter of Silas & Priscilla (Cobb) Wood As to the parents of Isaiah Washburn - Bridgewater vital records Ruben Washburn married Betty Dilley 11 May 1749 Bridgewater, MA Isaiah & Priscilla Washburn had 11 children tree Talks vol. 25 no. 1 March 1985 p. 39 [Cortland Co. p. 120 lists the administration of Isaiah Washburn's son Reuben [1777-1823] it also gives a list of all of Isaiah's children and gives some further information on Isaiah & Priscilla Abiel was in Homer, Corland Co., NY in the 1820 census having married between 1810-1820 there are 3 children in the family all under the age of 10 years - 2 boys and 1 girl. The process of hunting down ancestors in a process of collecting the trail they left behind - and so you get all vital records census records probate records land records military records obituaries cemetery records etc. Not only for your direct line but for their siblings. So my question to you would be where does the name Julia Ann Stewart as the wife of Reuben Washburn come from and how do you know they were married on 30 Dec 1838 - I would be interested in your source. Do you have a Bibile Record? Can I make the assumption that Francis Edwin Washburn is your direct relation? Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

> the children. Also, I know James was in Monroe County Wisconsin in the 1850's > with at least one other brother, but I don't know their names. Thanks for the > help. I can help you with this part of your question. According to Brenton's book, James had the following siblings: John Albert b. 1814 in Litchfield NY; d. 1893 Sarah Lurency b. 1817 Lyman Gardner b. 1820 in Jefferson County NY; d. 1859 in Wabasha County MN Dwight Bethuel b. 1821 in NY Joel Gilbert b. 1830; d. in Mannsville NY Isaac b. 1832 in NY My Washburns were also in Monroe County WI--having arrived from Vermont in the late 1840's--but apparently we come from different branches of the family. Hope this helps. Bill Betts Center Cross, Virginia

Thank you for the information. I have forwarded it to my sister in law, who has the records of my parents' research. The Washburn line is a collateral line of John Whaley. His daughter Laura Jane Whaley was my great grandmother and Florence Alberta Whaley who married Francis E. Washburn 18 Oct 1874, was her younger sister. There were three children of the marriage, Julia Ann Washburn b. 11 Aug 1878, Eva Lenore b. 20 Mar 1881 and Francis Earl b. 21 Nov 1889. I have lost track of this branch of the family, but perhaps I may recontact them thru the Whaley list. Again thanks for the information. Leslie Quist > Some of the information on the Isaiah Washburn line is as follows > > Virgil S. White Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pensions > [This is an abstract of the pension files at the National Archives - I also > have a copy of the portion of the file] > > Isaiah Washburn born 1754 Middleborough, MA and lived there at enlistment > soldier applied 7 May 1822 Bradford Co., PA resided in Windham Township and > died there 6 Jan 1840 leaving children who in 1852 were Isaiah, Silas, Abiel > Washburn - who was aged 64 in 1849 & Sally (Washburn) Hotchkiss > > >From the VItal Records of Middleborough > Published record vol. 1 p. 143 which is a transcript of p. 74 of the > original records > > Isaiah Washburn son of Ruben Washburn by Betty his wife was born November > 27th 1754 > > p. 144 Isaiah Washburn & Priscilla Wood were married 20 Jul 1775 > Middleborough, MA [Priscilla was the daughter of Silas & Priscilla (Cobb) Wood > > As to the parents of Isaiah Washburn - Bridgewater vital records > Ruben Washburn married Betty Dilley 11 May 1749 Bridgewater, MA > > Isaiah & Priscilla Washburn had 11 children > > tree Talks vol. 25 no. 1 March 1985 p. 39 [Cortland Co. p. 120 lists the > administration of Isaiah Washburn's son Reuben [1777-1823] it also gives a > list of all of Isaiah's children and gives some further information on Isaiah > & Priscilla > > Abiel was in Homer, Corland Co., NY in the 1820 census having married between > 1810-1820 there are 3 children in the family all under the age of 10 years - > 2 boys and 1 girl. > > The process of hunting down ancestors in a process of collecting the trail > they left behind - and so you get all > vital records > census records > probate records > land records > military records > obituaries > cemetery records > etc. > Not only for your direct line but for their siblings. > > So my question to you would be where does the name Julia Ann Stewart as the > wife of Reuben Washburn come from and how do you know they were married on 30 > Dec 1838 - I would be interested in your source. Do you have a Bibile > Record? > > Can I make the assumption that Francis Edwin Washburn is your direct relation? > > Susan Bingler > Fairfax, VA

It would be better to use primary source information for the answers you are looking for and here it is: Abstracts of the Primary Source information you are seeking can be found in "Tree Talks" Tree Talks vol. 29 no. 1 March 1989 p. 51 [Jefferson County p. 95] Book A. of Wills, on file in the Surogatre's Office, Watertown. Abstracted and contributed by Harriett M. Hall WASHBURN Bethuel Washburn of town of Ellisburgh, Jefferson Co. Bequeath to my son Albert sum of $161 To my daughter Sarah $55 To my son Gardner $136 to my son Swite[?] $136 to my son James $89 to my son Joel $89 All rest of estate to my beloved wife whom I appont Executrix and likewise James Gifford Jr., Executor. Dated 11 Feb 1831 Witnesses: Ephraim Potter, Eben Brown, Jr., Elias Howe. p. 24 Tree Talks vol. 30 No. 1 March 1990 p. 49 [Jefferson County p. 99] ADDITION: WASHBURN, Bethuel. An abstract of his will was printed in Tree Talks Volume 29 Number 1 p. 55 Jefferson County page 95 March 1989 The third line in the abstract refers to "my son Swite [?] $136"; this should be "my son Dwight $136" Bethel Washburn, whose middle name was Dwight, is the greatgrandfather of the contributor of this information, Mrs Keith W. Egan. Guardian book A. found in the Surrogates Court, Watertown. Abstracted and contributed by Elizabeth L. and Helen B. McDonald Washburn - Estate of Bethuel Washburn. Petition of James Gifford, Jr., in behalf of Gardner Washburn, Dwight Washburn, and James Washburn, minors under age of 14 yrs., and Albert Washburn and Sarah Washburn, minors above 14 yrs., residents of Jefferson County. Notice given to relatives in Jefferson County. James Gifford appinted guardian. Bond of $600 and $400 filed 23 Dec 1831 pp. 59, 60 Tree Talks vol. 32 no. 3 September 1992 (Jefferson Co., p. 109) Guardian Book A. abstracted and contributed by Elizabeth L. and Hellen B. McDonald. WASHBURN Petition of Elisha Allen to appoint Ebenezer Brown guardian of Dwight and James Washburn until 14 Bond $100 24 May 1834 Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

> I have no information on the marriage of a Reuben Washburn to a Julia Ann > Stewart, however other pieces of information in this record fit together too > well for the following not to be the likely lineage of Reuben. > > What caught my eye was the Francis Edwin Washburn b. 1848 in PA , son of > Reuben > > >From the Revolutionary War Pension Record of ISAIAH WASHBURN born 1754 in > Middleborough, MA > > Letter of inquiry > > Pawnee County Mutual Insurance Co. > Pawnee City, Nebraska > January 14, 1914 > E.C. Tieman - acting Commissioner, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C. > > Dear Sir: - Some of our family are interested in matters of the Daughters of > the American Revolution and we wish for the facts - record of Isaiah Washburn > who enlisted in Massachusets - Middleborough - Capt. Wood Said Isaiah > Washburn was born at Middleborough, Mass 1754, and died at Windham, Bradford > Co., PA in 1840. He had a son, Abiel Washburn, which was my grandfather, my > father's name being Reuben S. Wshburn. > Please give us the military record of Isaiah Washburn in the American > Revolution and oblige. > And if you will grant the favor, we wish for the millitary record of Isaiah > Washburn, son of Abiel in the Civil War > signed > > F.E. Washburn > > Lineage listed in a letter like this is not PRIMARY source documentation. > However, It must be more than coincidence the the inquiry written by Leslie > Quist has a Francis Edwin Washburn dying in 1919 Pawnee Co., NE, which is > the same location that this letter comes from. I would strongly suspect that > the F.E. Washburn of the letter and the Francis Edwin Washburn of the E-mail > inquiry are the same man. > > I think it can be safely assumed that the F.E. Washburn who wrote the letter > would probably be correct in naming his father as Reuben S. Washburn and his > grandfather as Abiel Washburn, Such relationships are usually known to a > person.The Revolutionary War Pension of Isaiah has several documents > submitted by the son Abiel Washburn > > Among the statements of Abiel Washburn was that his father Isaiah Washburn > died at Windham, Bradford Co., PA on 5 Jan 1840 > > Isaiah had resided for a time in the town of Cortland, NY, I can give > further information and documentation for the lineage if anyone is interested > > Susan Bingler > Fairfax, VA Yes! I am indeed interested in this line. Please send me any information you may have on them, especially the sources. I would like to find the final connection to prove that this Reuben is the same one. I would guess that the marriage is the connecting link. Leslie Quist

Hi All, Last summer someone on the list was kind enough to help me out on my gg grandfather James A. Washburn's parents, Bethuel Washburn and Eunice Gifford. I believe his parents were listed in Brent Washburn's book. Can anybody who has the book tell me if any brother's or sisters of James are listed. Bethuel and Eunice died in Mannsville, NY in 1831 and 1832, when James was 4. I'd be interested if anyone else is down from this family if they know who raised the children. Also, I know James was in Monroe County Wisconsin in the 1850's with at least one other brother, but I don't know their names. Thanks for the help. Marc Chambers

I have no information on the marriage of a Reuben Washburn to a Julia Ann Stewart, however other pieces of information in this record fit together too well for the following not to be the likely lineage of Reuben. What caught my eye was the Francis Edwin Washburn b. 1848 in PA , son of Reuben From the Revolutionary War Pension Record of ISAIAH WASHBURN born 1754 in Middleborough, MA Letter of inquiry Pawnee County Mutual Insurance Co. Pawnee City, Nebraska January 14, 1914 E.C. Tieman - acting Commissioner, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C. Dear Sir: - Some of our family are interested in matters of the Daughters of the American Revolution and we wish for the facts - record of Isaiah Washburn who enlisted in Massachusets - Middleborough - Capt. Wood Said Isaiah Washburn was born at Middleborough, Mass 1754, and died at Windham, Bradford Co., PA in 1840. He had a son, Abiel Washburn, which was my grandfather, my father's name being Reuben S. Wshburn. Please give us the military record of Isaiah Washburn in the American Revolution and oblige. And if you will grant the favor, we wish for the millitary record of Isaiah Washburn, son of Abiel in the Civil War signed F.E. Washburn Lineage listed in a letter like this is not PRIMARY source documentation. However, It must be more than coincidence the the inquiry written by Leslie Quist has a Francis Edwin Washburn dying in 1919 Pawnee Co., NE, which is the same location that this letter comes from. I would strongly suspect that the F.E. Washburn of the letter and the Francis Edwin Washburn of the E-mail inquiry are the same man. I think it can be safely assumed that the F.E. Washburn who wrote the letter would probably be correct in naming his father as Reuben S. Washburn and his grandfather as Abiel Washburn, Such relationships are usually known to a person.The Revolutionary War Pension of Isaiah has several documents submitted by the son Abiel Washburn Among the statements of Abiel Washburn was that his father Isaiah Washburn died at Windham, Bradford Co., PA on 5 Jan 1840 Isaiah had resided for a time in the town of Cortland, NY, I can give further information and documentation for the lineage if anyone is interested Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

Hello all: I am late in responding to this, but I'm sure you'll forgive me if you're searching for this information. CNYGS has published several NY census records and they are available from the following address: Central New York Genealogical Society Box 104 Colvin Station Syracuse, NY 13205 Prices are quoted from 1999 (can't find the 2000 census), but I'm pretty sure they haven't changed. Prices include postage and handling. 1825: Cortland Co $12 Lewis Co $12 Schoharie Co $12 Tioga Co $12 Town of Otsego $12 Washington Co $17 Yates Co $12 They have many other publications available as well as the quarterly newsletter which you get with membership. The fourth quarter is always a census abstract. I've been a member for the last couple years, so do have the newsletters back that far and a few from previous years. Nancy Ward Syracuse, NY, USA nance@dreamscape.com ---------- >From: John Maltby <jamaltby@creative.net> >To: WASHBURN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: 1825 NY census >Date: Mon, Dec 18, 2000, 11:05 PM > > Hi Diane. > I don't think all of the 1825 New York State census survives, but I don't > know which ones are in existence. The only county I have is Washington > County, in the "Tree Talks" magazine, which is published by the Central New > York Genealogical Society. You might check your library to see if they > carry this publication. The CNYGS may have abstracted other counties' > censuses in other issues. Or you could write to the Oneida County > Historical Association and ask them what state censuses they have from > Oneida County. > > John A. Maltby > Redwood City, CA > jamaltby@creative.net >

Hi, Leslie, I'm interested in this because there were two Reubens born in Westchester Co., NY. One settled in Dutchess Co., NY and had several children. This one was my great...uncle. The only known child is John. My Reuben's mother was Mary and he married a Martha and had a brother James. The other Reuben remained in Westchester and he may be your connection. His mother was Freelove and he married a Hannah. Siblings were: Joseph, Mary, James, Henry, William, Abijah, John, Absalom, Benjamin. He had a son, Reuben, b. ca. 1815 - d. 1886; md. 1850 Samantha Powell (this was possibly a second marriage). Siblings were Joshua, Ezra, Edward, Mary, Robert, Isaiah, Eliza, Benjamin, John, Hannah. Lyn > I am looking for more information about Reuben Washburn who married > Julia Ann Stewart about 1839 in McKean Co, PA Reuben was born about > 1815 and Julia Ann Stewart about 1817. We think they were both born in > NY, no proof. > Their children are > Mary Washburn b. 1840 McKean Co, PA > James Washburn b. 1842 McKean Co, PA > Henry Washburn b. 1844 McKean Co, PA > Francis Edwin Washburn b. 13 Apr 1848 McKean Co, PA, d. 22 Apr 1919 > Pawnee Co, NE m. 18 Oct 1874 Pawnee Co., NE > Leonard Washburn b. 1849 McKean Co, PA > > Does anyone have any more information about this family and their > ancestors? > Leslie Quist >

I am looking for more information about Reuben Washburn who married Julia Ann Stewart about 1839 in McKean Co, PA Reuben was born about 1815 and Julia Ann Stewart about 1817. We think they were both born in NY, no proof. Their children are Mary Washburn b. 1840 McKean Co, PA James Washburn b. 1842 McKean Co, PA Henry Washburn b. 1844 McKean Co, PA Francis Edwin Washburn b. 13 Apr 1848 McKean Co, PA, d. 22 Apr 1919 Pawnee Co, NE m. 18 Oct 1874 Pawnee Co., NE Leonard Washburn b. 1849 McKean Co, PA Does anyone have any more information about this family and their ancestors? Leslie Quist

The vital records of the town of Lenox, Berkshire Co., MA, have never been published in book form. Those with ancestry in Lenox must use the microfiche copy of the town records published by the Holbrook Institute, available at some libraries, which is awkward and hard on the eyes. Jacob Washburn and his wife, Phebe Northrup, were early settlers of Lenox, and left a number of descendants in Lenox in the 19th century, and I have tried to abstract all the vital records of their family from Lenox that I could find, which I am posting to the mail list. In addition, you'll fiind the marriages for Jacob's sons Ira and Thomas G. in the vital records of neighboring Lee, MA, which have been published. (Notice, below, that birth records for daughter Mary and son Miles Washburn were not recorded with the rest of the children, and although there are lots of marriages, there is a gap in the birth records in Lenox from the beginning of the 19th century to about 1844, so most of Jacob and Phebe's grandchildren's births were not recorded. To make up for this, some of the church records from Lenox have been microfilmed by the LDS Church, and are available on microfilm through their Family History Centers.) Jacob was the son of Miles(5) and Sarah (Lyon) Washburn, Ebenezer(4) Washburn, Joseph(3) Washburn, John(2) Washburn, John(1) Washburn. Lenox, Massachusetts, Vital Records From Holbrook Microfiche #M37 L58 From the First Volume of Lenox Town Records: Births Page 448 Samuel Washburn, son of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 7 Nov. 1786 Ira Washburn, son of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 14 Sept. 1788 Sophia Washburn, daughter of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 28 Sept. 1790 Laura Washburn, daughter of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 12 July 1792 Amos Washburn, son of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 23 April 1794 Thomas Gates Washburn, son of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 25 June 1796 Olive Washburn, daughter of Jacob Washburn & Phebe his wife was born 1 May 1798 Marriages and Intentions Page 356 Jacob Washburn and Phebe Northrup, both of Lenox, were married 12 April 1786 by William Walker, Esq. Page 365 Samuel Washburn and Betsey Porter were married 10 Nov. 1808 by Samuel Shepard. Page 367 Mr. Amos S. Washburn and Miss Roxana Peck, both of Lenox, were married 3 Sept. 1816 by Caleb Hyde, Justice of the Peace. Page 368 John Sedgewick and Olive Washburn, all of Lenox, were married 23 May 1819 by Samuel Shepard, Pastor of the Chh Lenox. Page 370 Ira Nash of Sandy Hill, N.Y., and Mary Washburn of Lenox were married 5 Jan. 1825 by Saml Shepard, Pastor of the Church in Lenox. Page 371 Miles Washburn and Emily Hatch were married 20 Oct. 1829 by Samuel Shepard. Page 372 Amos S. Washburn and Amanda Mattoon, both of Lenox, were maried 14 Sept. 1830 by Samuel Shepard. George Sabin of Gt. Barrington and Sophia Washburn of Lenox were married 15 Sept. 1831 by Samuel Shepard. Page 472 Marriage intentions of Ira Nash of Sandy Hill (N.Y.) and Mary Washburn of Lenox were recorded 28 Dec. 1824. Page 474 Marriage intentions of Miles Washburn and Emily Hatch of Lenox were recorded 16 Aug. 1829. Page 475 Marriage intentions of Amos S. Washburn and Amanda Mattoon, both of Lenox, were recorded 29 Aug. 1830. Page 476 Marriage intentions of George Sabin and Sophiah Washburn of Lenox were recorded 21 Aug. 1831. Marriage intentions of William Northrup and Emily Washburn, both of Lenox, were recorded 4 Mar. 1832. From the Miscellaneous Volume of Town Records Marriages and Intentions Page 10 William Northrup and Emily Washburn were married 25 Jan. 1832. Page 12 Frederick Washburn and Harriet Sears, both of Leonx, were married 12 Dec. 1859. Page 56 Marriage intentions of Mr. Franklen Washburn and Miss Lydia A. Le Barron, both of Lenox, were recorded 25 Sept. 1842. Page 58 Franklin Washburn and Lydia Ann Le Barron, both of Lenox, were married 13 Oct. 1842. Page 63 Marriage intentions of Dea. Thomas Blossom of Brighton, New York and Laura Washburn of Lenox were recorded 24 June 1843. Page 80 Marriage intentions of Benjamin F. Bartlett and Abbie Hewett, both of Lenox, were recorded 8 Jan. 1855. Page 83 Marriage intentions of John H. Mattoon and Martha L. Washburn, both of Lenox, were recorded 15 Nov. 1855. Page 114 Marriage intentions of George F. Washburn of Lenox and Emma Eliza Graves of Lee were recorded on 6 Dec. 1869. Page 115 Marriage intentions of John Henry Manning of Pittsfield and Grace Le Barron Washburn of Lenox were recorded 1 June 1870. Page 116 Marriage intentions of John Nicholson of Fall River and Phebe S. Washburn of Lenox were recorded 9 Sept. 1870. Page 177 Marriage intentions of Charles E. Tucker of Lenox and Hattie M. Washburn of Lenox were recorded 22 Sept. 1883. Page 188 Marriage intentions of Henry James Washburn of Lenox and Ellen Louise Bartlett of Lenox were recorded 11 July 1887. Page 194 Marriage intentions of Frederick Washburn and Maria M. Howland, both of Lenox, were recorded 10 Juy 1889. From Volume 1 of the Lenox Vital Records Births (recorded across on 2 pages) Pages 3-4 Amos S. Washburn, male, born 16 Mar. 1844 in Lenox, to Sidney & Harriet A. Washburn, of Lenox, a blacksmith. Pages 5-6 George H. Washburn, male, born 24 July 1844 in Lenox, to Frederick & Harriet Washburn, of Lenox, a blacksmith. Pages 7-8 William E. Sabin, male, born 10 April 1845 in Lenox, to George & Sophia Sabin, of Lenox, a manufacturer. Pages 9-10 Fanny P. Washburn, female, born 17 July 1845 in Lenox, to Wm & Elizabeth Washburn, of Lenox, a cabinet maker. Pages 19-20 Grace Le B. Washburn, female, born 5 Sept. 1847 in Lenox, to Franklin & Lydia Washburn, of Lenox, a blacksmith. Pages 38-39 ______ Washburn, male, born 22 Sept. 1853 in Lenox, to Sydney & Harriet Washburn, of Lenox, a farmer. Marriages (recorded across 2 pages) Pages 49-50 Dea. Thomas Blossom, aged 55, male, widower, of Brighton, NY, and Laura Washburn, age 50, female, single, of Lenox, were married 24 July 1843 in Lenox. Deaths (recorded across 2 pages) Pages 69-70 Amos S. Washburn, married, aged 56 years, 9 months, 19 days, blacksmith, died 12 Feb. 1851 in Lenox of consumption, parents Jacob & Phebe Washburn. Pages 73-74 Emma Washburn, single, aged 15 years, 10 months, 7 days, died 24 Aug. 1854 in Lenox of typhus fever, parents Wm & Eliz. Washburn. From Volume 2 of the Lenox Vital Records Births Page 4 Roxana M. Washburn, female, born 1 May 1857 in Lenox to Charles & Frances, of Lenox, a farmer. Page 11 Robert Washburn, male, born 9 July 1860 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angelina O., of Lenox, a farmer. Page 14 Henry J. Washburn, male, born 7 Oct. 1862 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angeline, of Lenox, a farmer. Page 25 Sidney Washburn, male, born 29 Oct. 1868 in Lenox to Stanley & Sarah, of Lenox, a laborer. (no name) Washburn, female, born 1 Feb. 1868 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angelina, of Lenox, a farmer. Page 33 Oliver Washburn, male, born 1 March 1873 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angeline O. (Judd), of Lenox, a farmer. Page 38 (no name) Washburn, female, born 19 Jan. 1875 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angeline, of Lenox, a farmer. Page 40 Amos S. Washburn, male, born 13 Mar. 1876 in Lenox to Stanley A. & Sarah E., of Lenox, a laborer. Page 44 Anna Washburn, female, born 23 July 1878 in Lenox to Daniel & Eliza, of Lenox, a laborer, father born in Switzerland, mother born in Saxony. Page 46 John Raymond Washburn, male, born 14 Dec. 1879 in Lenox to Edwin M. & Angeline O. (Judd), of Lenox, a farmer. Page 48 Charlotte I. Washburn, female, born 2 March 1880 in Lenox to Daniel & Lizzie, of Lenox, a laborer, father born in Germany, mother born in Saxony. Page 64 Isabella Washburn, female, born 19 Dec. 1888 in Lenox to Wm & Isabella, a clerk, father born in Elizabethport, NY, mother born in Lee. Page 72 Charles S. Washburn, male, born 20 Mar. 1890 in Lenox to William & Isabella, father born N.Y., mother born N.J. Marriages Page 1 Benj. F. Bartlett, age 28, of Lenox, farmer, born Washington, son of Wm Bartlett, and Abbie Hewett, age 20, of Lenox, born Lee, daughter of Rufus Hewett, were married 9 Jan. 1855 in Lenox. John H. Mattoon of Lenox, a farmer, son of John & Phebe Mattoon, and Martha L. Washburn, of Lenox, daughter of Ira & Olive Washburn, were married 15 Nov. 1855 in Lenox. Albert H. Northrup, age 22, of Lenox, carpenter, born Lenox, son of Wm & Emily Northrup, and Mariel J. Plummer, age 21, of Lenox, born Richmond, daughter of John & Jerusha D. Plummer, were married 29 Nov. 1855. Page 15 Geo. F. Washburn, age 25, of Lenox, a merchant, son of Fredk. & Harriet Washburn, and Emma E. Graves, age 24, of Lee, daughter of Seth D. & Ada Graves, were married 8 Dec. 1869 in Lenox, both first marriages. Page 16 John Henry Manning, age 23, of Pittsfield, druggist, born Ellington, CT, son of John Henry & Mary Sophia Manning, and Grace Le Barron Washburn, age 22, of Lenox, born Lenox, daughter of Franklin & Ann Washburn, were married 1 June 1870 in Lenox, both first marriages. John Nicholson, age 35, of Fall River, machine printer, born Scotland, son of George & Janette, and Phebe S. Washburn, age 29, of Lenox, born Lenox, daughter of William J. & Elizabeth, were married 9 Sept. 1870 in Lenox, his third marriage, her first marriage. Page 31 Charles Edward Tucker, age 25, of Lenox, farmer, born Richmond, son of Timothy & Elizabeth Tucker, and Hattie M. Washburn, age 18, of Lenox, born New Jersey, daughter of Charles Washburn, were married 26 Sept. 1883 in Lenox, both first marriages. Page 36 Henry James Washburn, age 24, of Lenox, farmer, born Lenox, son of Edwin M. & Angeline C., and Ellen Louise Bartlett, age 26, of Lenox, school teacher, born Lenox, daughter of Benjamin F. & Abbie H., were married 20 July 1887 in Lenox, both first marriages. Page 40 Frederick Washburn, age 73, of Lenox, farmer, born Lenox, son of Samuel & Elizabeth, and Maria M. Howland, age 55, of New Lenox, daughter of Levi & Nancy Butler, were married 9 July 1889 in Lenox, his second marriage, her third marriage. Deaths Page 6 Betsey Washburn, aged 71, female, married, born Colbrook [CT?], parents of Jas & Jerusha Porter, died 29 Nov. 1860 in Lenox, of apoplexy. Page 7 Frances M. Washburn, aged 25, female, married, house keeper, born Stockbridge, parents Geo. H. & Cynthia Cutting, died 9 Oct. 1861 in Lenox, of typhus fever. Page 16 Phebe N. Washburn, aged 100 years, 9 days, female, born Salisbury, CT, parents Samuel Northrup & Phebe, died 28 Feb. 1867 in Lenox, of old age. Page 18 Sidney E. Washburn, aged 15 years, 5 months, 15 days, male, single, farmer, parents Sidney & Harriet Washburn, died 6 Nov. 1869 in Lenox, of pneumonia. Page 19 Miss M. Le Baron, aged 65 years, 4 months, 7 days, female, single, parents Isaac & Lydia Le Baron, died 16 Dec. 1870 in Lenox. Page 21 Mrs. C. H. Washburn, aged 35, female, married, born White House, N.J., parents Joseph & Julia, died 17 June 1871 in Lenox, of a fever. Page 36 Samuel Washburn, aged 93, male, widower, farmer, parents Jacob & Phebe N. Washburn, died 20 May 1880 in Lenox, of old age. Amanda Washburn, aged 82, female, widow, parents John & Prudence Mattoon, died 24 May 1880 in Lenox, of pneumonia and old age. Page 40 Miles Washburn, aged 78 years, 11 months, 16 days, male, married, farmer, parents Jacob & Phebe W., died 14 May 1883 in Lenox, of old age. Page 42 Lydia A. Washburn, aged 70, female, married, born Sheffield, parents Le Baron, died on 10 Jan. 1883 in Lenox, of cancer. Page 50 Emily Washburn, aged 84 years, 7 months, female, widow, born Coventry, CT, parents Hatch, died 10 Aug. 1887 in Lenox, of old age. Page 51 Franklin Washburn, aged 73 years, 8 months, 3 days, male, widower, farmer, parents Samuel & Betsy, died 22 July 1888 in Pittsfield, of neuralign. Harriet S. Washburn, aged 68 years, 11 months, 25 days, female, married, parents Luther & Anna Sears, died 1 Aug. 1888 in Lenox, of dysentery. Page 55 Harriet A. Washburn, aged 71 years, 4 months, female, married, born CT, parents Harris & ___ Miner, died 6 Feb. 1890 in Lenox dale, of pulmonary ad[?]. That's as far as I got. Have a Merry Christmas. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net

Thanks John, Lyn, and Susan. I appreciate your help. I will pursue the 1835 NY state census and will write back if successful. I am confident that someday, I will get a lead that will be the proof I need. Thanks again. Diane Rice in Michigan

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12D631B92F0E0B8140DD0EC6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently received this information from the Whaley Mailing List about Florence Alberta Whaley and her husband Francis E. Washburn. Does anyone know which Washburn line this would be. Does anyone have any info on this family? Leslie Quist --------------12D631B92F0E0B8140DD0EC6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-POP3-Rcpt: mamakitty@mail Return-Path: <WHALEY-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by mail.nwinfo.net (8.10.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eBJHDpC06879 for <mamakitty@ewa.net>; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:13:51 -0800 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eBJH9HI09490; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:09:17 -0800 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:09:17 -0800 X-Original-Sender: RLNSD@aol.com Tue Dec 19 09:09:17 2000 From: RLNSD@aol.com Message-ID: <8e.ea91751.2770f00a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:08:26 EST Old-To: whaley-l@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Subject: [WSP] Florence E. Whaley and Francis E. Washburn Resent-Message-ID: <hToL9D.A.DUC.9Y5P6@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2550 X-Loop: WHALEY-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: WHALEY-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 >From Jackie Weeden: In digest 167, Leslie Quist was asking for info on Francis E. Washburn who married Florence A. Whaley of Pawnee City, NE. From an unpublished manuscript on the Portman family which I found at the Michigan State Library in Lansing is the following information: Florence Alberta Whaley born Mar. 31, 1856 in Kalamazoo Co. MI., d Oct. 22, 1927, m Francis E. Washburn Oct. 18, 1874. Francis was b Apr. 13, 1848 in Eldred, PA and d Apr. 22, 1918 in Pawnee City, NE. He was of the line of Washburns who came to the United States on the Mayflower. --------------12D631B92F0E0B8140DD0EC6--

The LDS catalog is on-line at www.familysearch.org You don't need to even leave home to see what they have. Go to the Library section, then click on the option for the library cataog A PLACE search is the most useful for census records - enter the name of the county as the place being searched Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

The following counties have an 1825 census that survived Broome Cataraugus Chautauqua Cortland Herkimer Jefferson Lewis Orange Otsego Scoharie Steuben Tioga Tompkins Washington Yates Oneida County, NY has the following surviving State census 1835, 1855, 1865, 1875, 1915, 1925 there is also an 1814 assessment roll Hope that helps Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

Diane, The LDS FHC site shows the 1814 Census then jumps to 1830, so quite possibly the 1825 for Oneida Co. has not survived. If you're near an FHC, that might be your best bet to search what they have. Lyn

Hi Diane. I don't think all of the 1825 New York State census survives, but I don't know which ones are in existence. The only county I have is Washington County, in the "Tree Talks" magazine, which is published by the Central New York Genealogical Society. You might check your library to see if they carry this publication. The CNYGS may have abstracted other counties' censuses in other issues. Or you could write to the Oneida County Historical Association and ask them what state censuses they have from Oneida County. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net At 07:21 AM 12/18/2000 EST, you wrote: >I read John Maltby's email from 12/17/00 with interest. Did all of New York >have an 1825 census? Was it all listed in the December 1998 issue of "Tree >Talks? I would be very interested in Oneida County, and specifically in >Luther and Martin Washburn, father and son. I did note that John wrote of a >Luther Washburn with 5 males and 2 females in Kingsbury of Washington County, >but don't think he is on my line. If John would be so kind as to check for >the listings in Oneida County for me I would be extremely greatful. Diane >Rice in Michigan > >

I read John Maltby's email from 12/17/00 with interest. Did all of New York have an 1825 census? Was it all listed in the December 1998 issue of "Tree Talks? I would be very interested in Oneida County, and specifically in Luther and Martin Washburn, father and son. I did note that John wrote of a Luther Washburn with 5 males and 2 females in Kingsbury of Washington County, but don't think he is on my line. If John would be so kind as to check for the listings in Oneida County for me I would be extremely greatful. Diane Rice in Michigan

5 Hope Washburn--Tabitha Ward (lived in Fort Ann) 6John Washburn(e)--Jemima Horton 6 Isreal Washburn - Asineth Hurd 7 Eunice Washburn - Oliver Sanders Fort Ann, NY removed to Essex County NY 6 William Washburn and Permelia/Pamela Darling James Washburn but he was not born until ca 1840? Will keep looking Jean