Hi all, I'm posting this query in response to a non-subscriber. We are looking for the parents of Brainerd Miller Washburn, born in New York state about the 1820's. He shows up in Dodge county, Wisconsin in the 1850's with my gg grandfather James A. Washburn and James' brother Lyman Gardner Washburn. We know Brainerd is not a brother of James and Lyman Gardner, however given that he was born in New York as James and Lyman were, pioneered with these two brothers in Wisconsin and his death certificate says his parents were born in Massachussetts as James and Lyman's were born in Brookfield, MA, we think he may be a cousin. Brainerd and his wife had two children, Gardner R. and Florence J. born in Dodge County, Wisconsin in the 1850's. I realize that there were lots of Washburn's born in Massachussetts that moved on to upstate New york, but maybe someone has something on this elusive individual. Brainerd Miller Washburn also occasionally went by Miller Brainerd. I'd appreciate any help you can give me. Marc Chambers Virginia Beach, VA

Washburn, William NY MADISON CO. LEBANON 067 1820 This Washburn was in the 1820 census index for Lebanon Jes

The saw-mill at Lebanon is owned by L. D. Pope and E. M. Washburn, who purchased the property in July, 1878, of S. K. Hawkins, who operated it about three years and rebuilt it during the first year of his occupancy. It contains one muley saw, which is propelled by water from the small stream running through the village. From the History Of Chenango County so evidently there were Washburn family members in the area.

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I went to high school in a town about 10 miles from Lebanon. Since the school was a "Centralized" one, we had the people from Lebanon, which was a small town of, perhaps 300 or so, in the 1950s, along with a half dozen more towns of the same size, attending our school. I am not familiar with anyone named Washburn from that area, in that particular period, so, it is possible that the ones living there were transient, or died off. The area did have several small cemeteries, scattered around, that we going to ruin at that time. I remember going through them and looking at the dates and seeing the late 1700s and early 1800s of some of the old tombstones. If one has the time, it would pay to stump through the area in the spring or fall (when the areas are more visible). Another point -- didn't a line of Washburns migrate through the "valley" area of New York and settle in and around present day Watertown? John

Hi Listers ~ I found a great book "Inheriting the Revolution" by Joyce Appleby.....It traces the lives of the "first Americans".....that first generation born after the revolution.....and one of those mentioned is Ichabod Washburn.....apparently one of the author's sources for information on him was an autobiography and there is quite a bit of detail on his life in this book. I *think* he's a cuz of mine back around Philip Washburn and Elizabeth Irish......but any of you that descend from closer lines might be interested in the book too. :-) It says he "was b. in Kingston, MA in 1798, his seafaring father having died from yellow fever the year of his birth, leaving twins and and infant to be supported by his widow at her loom"......... I checked briefly on FamilySearch and there was one Ancestral file that seemed to be the right one, but I have no idea how accurate it is. Hope he belongs to one of us :-) Dianne

I wish I could be of some help, but David Washburn is a bit of mystery. I have not yet seen any document that connects him to any other member of the Washburn family in any capacity. I can not even identify him as any D., David, or Daniel Washburn who is head of a household in the 1810 census. [ The names David and Daniel are often confused in the records] In fact since he was probably recently married there is no guarantee that he WAS a head of household. He could have been living in the household of his father, his in-laws, his brother, her brother etc. You can suppose that the children are named after relations, but I don't want to go that route without some tangible proof of a relationship with the Washburn family. Lots of families had children named Isaiah and Samuel. I haven't yet seen a record where David Washburn bought land and perhaps had a brother as a witness. I haven't seen any probate records where a Washburn gives anything to the children of my deceased son/brother David Washburn. The David Washburn/Washbon that I find of this time period are still living in 1820 which effectively eliminates them as being the David Washburn we are looking for. They are each in entirely different Washburn branches of this family so I can't even use naming patterns as a source of clues. If I see anything that looks like it is a clue for this branch I will post it to the Washburn board. Sorry I can't be of more help. Susan BIngler Fairfax, VA

In a message dated 1/9/01 2:12:43 PM EST, JMATT13@aol.com writes: << Do David and Arthur Washburn have another brother named James, born 1812 or 1814? >> No, not according to "Names and Sketchs of the Pioneer Settlers of Madison County" by Tuttle. But then he did not show Arthur either. I show Arthur 1809, Isaac 1810, David Jr. & Sarah 1813, but as you can see there is none listed for 1812 or 1814. Their father David died in 1815.

cc: Mass List, Plymouth List, Surnames Hello, I have been working on the History of my Church (Mullein Hill Church, Highland Road, Lakeville, MA -- previously Middleboro). I searched the Deeds at the Plymouth Courthouse, and could find Deeds back to this deed, below (1842). The names, below, are the men who organized the church and had it built. I have alphabetized the names for easy reference. These men lived in Middleboro or Lakeville, MA. If anyone know more about either Samuel ROBBINS (who sold the land to the Church in 1842) or the names below, please let me know. I am going to write a History of the Church, and would like to know more about these people (spouses, children, history, etc). It would be interesting to see if any of their descendants are still in this area. Also, if anyone knows where Samuel ROBBINS (of Highland Road, Middleboro, later Lakeville) got his land, I could then go further. Who did he buy it from? A few weeks ago, I typed up the SIXTEEN SHILLINGS PURCHASE from the Indians to the (to be) town of Middleboro. Later that Purchase became Lakeville, MA. The Sixteen Shillings Purchase happened in the late 1600's. Thus, I would like to find the Deeds between the SIXTEEN SHILLINGS PURCHASE to the Deed from Samuel ROBBINS in 1842. Any suggestions welcome! Best, Betty, Middleboro (Alpha. names, prior to typing up the Deed) Elbridge G. ASHLEY, Noah ASHLEY, Silas P. ASHLEY, Ariel P. BOOTH, John BOOTH, Nathaniel CASWELL, Ezra CLARK, John CUSHING, Reuben HAFFORD, William F. HAFFORD, Sumner HINDS, Job. P. NELSON, Oliver PEIRCE, Charles H. SAMPSON, Uriah SAMPSON, Zebulon SHAW, Joseph SHOCKLEY, Harison STAPLES, Salmon M. WASHBURN, Asa T. WINSLOW Plymouth, MA Probate/Land Court Plymouth Deed Book Bk: 217 Pg: 186-187 Know all men by these presents, That I, Samuel Robbins of Middleborough, in the County of Plymouth, and Commonwealth of Massachusetts, yeoman, In consideration of Thirty Dollars to me paid by Noah Ashley, Ariel P. Booth, Reuben Hafford, Salmon M. Washburn, Nathaniel Caswell, Elbridge G. Ashley, John Cushing, William F. Hafford, Charles H. Sampson, Asa T. Winslow, Job P. Nelson, Joseph Shockley, Harison Staples, Uriah Sampson, John Booth, Zebulon Shaw, Sumner Hinds, Oliver Peirce, Silas P. Ashley, & Ezra Clark, all of Middleborough in said County, the receipt whereof I do hereby acknowledge, do hereby give, grant, sell and convey unto the said N. Ashley, A. P. Booth, R. Hafford, S. M. Washburn, N. Caswell, E. G. Ashley, G. Cushing, W. F. Hafford, C. H. Sampson, A. T. Winslow, J. P. Nelson, J. Shockley, H. Staples, H. Staples, U. Sampson, J. Booth, Z. Shaw, S. Hinds, O. Peirce, S. P. Ashley, and Ezra Clark, a certain tract of land, situated in said Middleborough it being part of my homestead farm, and bounded as follows, viz: Beginning on the road at the corner of Gideon Cogshall's land and runs on said road south sixty four degrees west fifteen and one half rods, thence north thirty one degrees west on my land to a stake eight rods, thence north sixty four degrees east on my land fourteen and one half rods, to a stake, thence south thirty nine degrees east eight rods on my land and land of said Cogshall to the first mentioned corner, containing one hundred and twenty rods, We are to build a good and sufficient fence on the west end, and north side of said lot, To have and to hold the foregranted premises to the said Ashley Booth, Hafford, Washburn, Caswell, Ashly [sic], Hafford, Sampson, Winslow, Nelson, Shockley, Staples, Sampson, Booth, Shaw, Hinds, Peirce, Ashley and Clark, and to their heirs and assigns to them and their use and behold forever, and I, the sd Samuel Robbins, for myself, my heirs, executors, and administrators, do convent with the said Ashley, Booth, Hafford, Washburn, Caswell, Ashley, Cushing, Hafford, Sampson, Winslow, Nelson, Shockley, Staples, Sampson, Booth, Shaw, Hinds, Peirce, Ashby, and Clark, their heirs and assigns, that I lawfully seized in fee of the aforefgranted premises, that they are free of all Incumbrances that I have good right to sell and convey the same unto the said Ashley, Booth, Hafford, Washburn, Caswell, Ashley, Cushing, Hafford, Sampson, Winslow, Nelson, Shockley, Staples, Sampson, Booth, Shaw, Hinds, Peirce, Ashley, and Clark, their heirs and assigns, forever, against the lawful claims and demands all persons. In Witness Whereof, I, the said Samuel Robbins have hereunto set my hand and seal this twenty eight day of March, in the year of our Lord, one thousand eight hundred and forty two. Signed, sealed and delivered, in presence of us, Luther Ashley, Rebekah C. Ashley. Samuel Robbins, Seal, His Mark X, Plymouth, Ss. March 11th 1844. Then the above named Samuel Robbins personally appeared and acknowledged the foregoing Instrument to be his free act and deed: Before me, Silas Pickens, Justice of the Peace. Received August 6 1845 & Recorded for Roland E. Cotton, Regr.

Hi Betty, I am a descendant of Salmon M. Washburn of Middleborough and his wife Jerusha Walker Record. There daughter Flora Gertrude Washburn was my Great Grandmother. I would be very interested in your history when it is done. There are still descendants in MA & RI. I will share with you further information if you are interested. Get hold of me off list at (wyrdfolke@earthlink.net). Natalie

Do David and Arthur Washburn have another brother named James, born 1812 or 1814?

In a message dated 1/7/01 9:03:58 PM EST, BonChanceHomme@aol.com writes: Susan Bingler writes: << Reuben Washburn * Betty Dilley line out of Middleboro   - He most definitely is NOT.    He is closely tied to the Group of Washburn's in that area who came from Stafford, CT,   went first into NY  and then up to VT. They are all descendants of Samuel Washburn and Deborah Packard.    I have gotten about every available record that is microfilmed for all of these areas,  and I am still trying to puzzle out all the things it might be telling me. >> Susan, you were most helpful last August in helping me connect Arthur Washburn b. 1809 and David Washburn b. 1813 in Lebanon, NY as brothers. Their father was David Washburn born in Franklin County, VT in 1778 and their Mother was Mary Ann Conihe born in Merrimack, NH 2 Feb. 1777. Do you have anything on David being related to Samuel Washburn and Deborah Packard? The timing looks about right.

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/warrenst/ TITLE: Warren STICKNEY's Humble Home Leaf DESCRIPTION: Provides browsing and free download of Matthew Adams STICKNEY's 1869 book on the Stickney Family, including a GEDCOM. This posting was on Cindi's list last night; not a lot of information on Abel Washburn but it does have the ancestry of Betsey Stickney. This seems to be a unique GEDCOM file that is indexed and you can search the book and search the index (open up the GEDCOM tree) and Cindi's list said it is downloadable (I didn't try it yet). Jean S.

Hi Marc. At 07:24 PM 1/8/2001 EST, you wrote: >Hi all, > I have a question on applying for Mayflower Society membership. Can I >just tie in to my ancestor that is documented in Brenton Washburn's book as >down from John Washburn-Elizabeth Mitchell marriage, or do I need to prove it >all the way back to John Washburn. My gg grandfather is James Washburn the >son of Bethuel Washburn and Eunice Gifford. If I can prove that my great >grandmother Mary Washburn was his daughter with a birth record does that >qualify or do need more? > > Marc Chambers > > Chuch Washburn is correct. You must provide your own documentation now, except that the Mayflower Society does accept the generations from Francis Cooke through Josiah Washburn and Mercy Tilson as already proven, if you reference their publication, which is "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Volume 12: Francis Cooke of the Mayflower." It also includes the birth record for Josiah Washburn (Jr.), on 3 June 1716, but carries the line no further. You will need to prove that Josiah married Abiah or Abigail Curtis on 29 Jan. 1745/6 in Bridgewater (Bridgewater VRs, 2:569), and that they were the parents of Peter Washburn, born 9 Sept. 1750 in Bridgewater (Bridgewater VRs 1:334), and that this Peter Washburn married Sarah Ayres on 8 Apr. 1776 in Brookfield, (Brookfield VRs, p. 432), and that they had a son Bethuel Washburn born 11 July 1790 in Brookfield (Brookfield VRs, p. 227), and that this Bethuel married Eunice Gifford and they were the parents of James. You will need to supply as much information as you can gather, including probate records and deeds that support your case. You'll also need to get birth, marriage and death certificates for your grandparents, if possible, your parents, and yourself. (I don't believe they have to be certified.) Good luck with your application. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA jamaltby@creative.net

Marc, The Mayflower Society requires "demanding" proof that you are a descendant form the passenger listed. This is to discourage the many who are not actually qualified. however, the "proof" may be left up to those who oversee the application. (sometimes, a birth certificate is not available, but a will, deed, etc., will suffice). You may also wish to contact the Sons and Daughters of Pilgrims. L. Toussant

Betty, Most of the names mentioned are my family. Samuel Robbins is buried in the "Pauper" Cemetery in Lakeville, most of the others are buried in the cemetery next to the church--Mullien Hill Cemetery, and others close by. You can find the names of their spouses etc. on the gravestones where they are buried. Please check my web page: http://www.proaxis.com/~fgrsk8r/cemeteries.html for a list of the Lakeville cemeteries and who is buried in them. Most of their descendants are still in Lakeville. People in Lakeville tend to stay put, you will find most of them still living on the same land as the names you mentioned. Dianna

Hi all, I have a question on applying for Mayflower Society membership. Can I just tie in to my ancestor that is documented in Brenton Washburn's book as down from John Washburn-Elizabeth Mitchell marriage, or do I need to prove it all the way back to John Washburn. My gg grandfather is James Washburn the son of Bethuel Washburn and Eunice Gifford. If I can prove that my great grandmother Mary Washburn was his daughter with a birth record does that qualify or do need more? Marc Chambers

Greetings Cousin Marc, Monday 8 January 2001 In answer to your question of becoming a Mayflower Society member you "must" have documentation for all the generations down the line. Or, if you have a past relative that was a member you can "tie" to that membership application referencing the appropriate documents as listed. The bottom line is that "you must have documentation." In previous years, it was much easier to make application. Now, with communication media (such as it is) one has to be careful as to sources and authenticity of accuracy of the family line. I am a personal friend of Brenton Washburne and his work as dedicated as it is presents questions and doubt to some folk. Being that he does not give a complete document reference to his sources (other then his own personal dedicated research) you will not be able to use his publication as a viable source, unfortunately as it is. I hope I was some help to you and wish you all the luck in becoming a Mayflower Society Descendent member. Regards, Chuck Washburn, MSgt (Retired) Member, Mayflower Society General Number 47,000 -------------------------------- Historian Emeritus, CA-ANG =================================================== >Hi all, > I have a question on applying for Mayflower Society membership. Can I >just tie in to my ancestor that is documented in Brenton Washburn's book as >down from John Washburn-Elizabeth Mitchell marriage, or do I need to prove it >all the way back to John Washburn. My gg grandfather is James Washburn the >son of Bethuel Washburn and Eunice Gifford. If I can prove that my great >grandmother Mary Washburn was his daughter with a birth record does that >qualify or do need more? > > Marc Chambers

this falls into the Is it a clue? Department. Common Knowledge: Ashfield, MA Vital records Luther Washburn married Sarah Spinning 1 Jul 1779 Sarah was the daughter of Nathaniel SPINNING and Thankful BENTON The Ashfield records also record Edward Benton married Molle Washburn 30 Mar 1774 We don't know who Molle Washburn is. We don't know how old Molle Washburn is. We don't even know if she was born a Washburn or she is a widow Washburn. BUT The following comes from NEHG Register Vol. 54 April 1900 p. 178 Part of an article on Edward Benton and his Descendants James Benton who married Hannah Bushnell had a son James Benton b. 1700 who died 30 Aug 1785 among the children of the second James Benton are Thankful Benton who married Nathaniel Spinning and Edward Benton "b. April 12, 1740, lived in Albany, N.Y.; d. Oct 1794 m. Ist, May 28 1758 Leah Leete, 2d. Mary Washburne who d. in New York in 1825. Edward Benton was married the first time 16 years before he married Mary (Molle) Washburn. Molle is probably caring for young children of his first wife. Perhaps Luther Washburn is a close relation to Mary(Molle) Washburn who married Edward Benton and knowing more about her, will tell us more about Luther Washburn. Has anyone seen a reference tying Edward or Mary (Washburn) Benton to Luther Washburn? Just a thought Susan Bingler Fairfax, VA

In a message dated 1/7/2001 4:39:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, Rickwall@aol.com writes: > ? > > > I also descend from Reuben and Dorcas. I have visited her grave in > Miltonboro, Vermont but have not been able to find Rueben's grave. I also > do > not have any clue as to her maiden name. > > Rick Wall > Rick, I just received message this: Many people are researching this line.   I have been actively researching it for years.     Reuben Washburn died 1810-1820  probably either in Milton, Chittenden Co., VT or Georgia, Franklin Co., VT - they are neighboring towns.      There are a few researchers who have decided he is of the Reuben Washburn * Betty Dilley line out of Middleboro   - He most definitely is NOT.    He is closely tied to the Group of Washburn's in that area who came from Stafford, CT,   went first into NY  and then up to VT. They are all descendants of Samuel Washburn and Deborah Packard.    I have gotten about every available record that is microfilmed for all of these areas,  and I am still trying to puzzle out all the things it might be telling me. It is likely that Reuben married Dorcas while he was living in NY  probably in Warren or Saratoga Co., NY    Dorcas is a bit younger than he is and is likely to be his second wife, but no references have been found to who the first wife if there was one might have been.   No cemetery records have turned up for Reuben Washburn.   But then again there might not have been a gravestone and even if there was it would be almost 180 years old and probably unreadable at this point.   We all hope that somewhere someone has a family Bible, or old letters that might shed some light on this. Susan Bingler, CGRS Fairfax, VA I feel as though some people are trying to keep some of us from the Mayflower Society, as she is as undocumented as an old cow in the pasture. I have done extensive research on this -- what do you think? L. Toussant