Hi Dianna...would appreciate a copy of Benjamin's letter. I have Washburn's from the Mayflower up to my great-grandfather Chas. Seth Washburn who also served in the Civil War. Not sure how or where Benjamin fits into our line but would like to have any Washburn information. You can snail mail...Joyce Howard, 10230 E. Coopers Hawk Dr., Sun Lakes, Arizona 85248. Have a wonderful trip to Mass. should be beautiful back there...I'm leaving Sept 9th for England..plan to visit Bengeworth, Little and Great Washburn and see where this family started. Thanks again for your offer...joyce howard

MY INTRODUCTION: My grandfather, Charles Marvin Washburn, of Minneapolis, Minn., had built the linage of our family geneology from the early colonists back to England through to the present day (of which I am carrying on in his memory). He, being a detailed person as an educator/teacher and an attorney, had done his homework with the family research. After leaving the Minneapolis school system as principal of schools he passed the bar and became an attorney at 54 years of age. He then went to work for his cousins as an attorney for the Washburn- Crosby Flour Mill and railroad. Today the company is known as General Mills. The radio station in Minneapolis still exhists...WCCO Radio (Washburn-Crosby Company). The time I am describing here took place during the 1930's and 40's. He passed on in his early 80's. Through his study and much correspondence and travel, he had accumulated all the birth and marriage certificates for our complete family line. One goal he accomplished was the etablishment of our family linage with the Mayflower Society and the Son's of the American Revolution. All of his documentation was transcribed by type-written accounts and bound together with actual photographs and supporting records that are represented in a "labor of love" in a non-published book. Also, I have a multitude of other supportive documentation. Xerox copies were not existant in his day, so all copied document's became actual photographic reproductions, full size...etc. You have to realize this was quite a accomplishment for that period! From the pages of his delicate researched study I present to you the following----- THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT AS TRANSCRIBED BY Charles Marvin Washburn..Circa: 1930-1940: ================================================================================ ========== WILL OF JOHN(2) WASHBURN OF DUXBURY AND BRIDGEWATER (Mass.) These are to publish and declare to all to whom it may concern that I John Washburn Senr. of Bridgewater in the Colony of New Plymouth being through the mercy of God of sound judgment and memory do ordain and make my last will and testament in manner following vizt. Into the hands of God I commit my spirit believingly resigning up my soul into the everlasting arms of Gods mercy my body to be decently interred at the discretion of my executors: And for my outward estate I do will that after all my just debts and funeral expenses be fully paid my lands and other moveables be disposed of as followeth: Imprs- I give to my wife Elizabeth Washbourne one bed one boulster one pillw two pairs of sheets one blanket one coverlet two chests six bushels of Indian corne one bushell of Barley, father with respect to money which was my wives part whereof I have already laid out for her we are agreed that I shall returne to her two pounds and ten shillings which I have already done. I give to my son John four score acres of upland in the place where he hath already built and what shall be found wanting of the four score acres in the said place shall be made up to him on the easterly side of my land next the South Brooke more I give to him a lot of meadow in Cousters Kitchen lying between the lots of Samuel and James more two lots of meadow lying in the Great meadow above the Great Island more I give to him a whole purchase right in the undivided lands, further my will is that my son John take care of my brother Phillip to provide for him and on that consideration I further give to my son John half a purchase right in my undivided lands and half a fifty acre lot not yet laid out further I give to him the improvement of a lot of meadow in the Great meadow lying next to John Ames during my brothers life and after my brothers decease the one half of the lot shall be to my son James and my son John shall enjoy the other half - To my son Thomas I have already given him twenty acres of upland which he hath exchanged for land where he hath built more I have given him a lot of meadow in Cousters Kitchen lying on the outside northerly I have also given him half a purchase right in the undivided lands of all which lands I have formerly given him deeds. To my son Joseph have given twenty acres of land lying at Satucket pond and a lot of meadow lying at Black Brooke I have otherwise done for him according to my ability And my will is that he shall therewth rest contented. To my son Samuel I give thirty five acres of land in the place where he hath already built and lot at Quatitequat joining to his Great lot there. More I give half a purchase right in the undivided lands. Also a lot of meadow lying up poore meadow river and joining to his own lot there more a lot of meadow in Cousters Kitchen lying on the outside southerly - further I give to him thirty acres of land joining to his land where he hath built and also a steer calf. To my son Jonathan I give fifty acres of land lying on the outside of my land next the South Brooke and if he should come to settle upon it within the space of two years after the date of this my will he shall enjoy it as his own otherwise my sons John Samuel Benjamin and James shall enjoy the land being equally divided between them each of them paying to my son Jonathan fifty shillings in comon pay more I give to my son Jonathan a lot of meadow lying in the Great Meadow joining to a lot of Goodman Turners also a purchase right in the undivided lands. To my son Benjamin I give fifty acres of land which formerly was my fathers lot also a lot of meadow lying up Satucket river and joing to a lot of Samuel Wadsworths and a half a purchase right in the undivided lands - also two young steers a young hoarse a cow a bed and an iron pot. To my younger son James when he shall come to age I give the land which lyeth between my son John and my son Benjamin butting on the river and runing in length till it meet with the butt of my son Samuels land with my dwelling house and all out housing thereunto belonging also a lot of meadow in Cousters Kitchen joining to a lot of Benjamin Willis and half a purchase right in the undivided lands, a fifty acre lot lying near Bear swamp I give to my two sons John and Samuel to be equally divided between them a lot of meadow lying in the mouth of Black Brooke I give to my three sons Samuel Jonathan and Benjamin to be equally divided between them: To my daughter Mary I give ten acres of land to be laid out: and one cow. To my daughter Elizabeth I give ye mare which they have in keeping and ten acres of land already laid out to my son in law her husband. To my two daughters Mary and Elizabeth give twenty acres of land lying down the Town river on the northerly side and joining to the lands of William Brett to be equally divided. To my daugher Jane I give twenty acres of land lying down Satucket river on the easterly side and joining to the lands of Samuel Allen: further give to her one cow one heifer a bed and an iron pot. To my daughter Sarah I give twenty acres of land joining to my son Samuels land near his house further all my right and interest in the lands called the majors purchase or in any other lands without the four mile my will is that it shall be equally divided between my sons John Thomas Samuel Jonathan Benjamin and James. My two old oxen I leave in the hands of my two sons John and Samuel to be sold when fit for sale and four pounds of the money to be disposed of for my son Benjamin toward his building. I leave on the land which I intend to my son James: one horse two oxen one bull two cows with all the furniture for husbandry to be improved for the benefit of my two younger children James and Sarah and my will is that when these children come to age the principal be divided between them. By principal I intend the horse oxen and other cattle with the tools and funiture afore mentioned. For my trustees and overseers I do nominate my kind friend Mr. John Thomson of Middleborough and my brother Edward Mitchell I do nominate and ordain my two sons John and Samuel executors of this my last will and testament revoking all other wills and testaments whatsoever. Witness my hand and seal October 30th 1686. John Washbourne his # mark (Seal) Sealed and delivered in the presence of Thomas Hayward Joseph Alden ===END OF DOCUMENT TRANSCRIBED BY Charles Marvin Washburn==========

I have copies of some letters written by Benjamin L. Washburn to his wife Hannah during the Civil War. These are not copies of the letters, but typewritten copies made from the letters themselves. He mentions Bill (William)from 4th regt quite frequently, and his daughters name is Ida. these letters were written from South Carolina. Then letters written by James O. Tinkham first informing Hannah that Benjamin was sick and another about his death. The letter about his death was addressed to Mr. Barney and tells him that he had also written to Hannah. It mentions that they were Lakeville boys. If anyone wants me to run off copies of these I would be happy to do so. Dianna....who will be heading for Massachusetts on 7 Sept!!!!

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It has come to my attention that users of MSN are having their email address changed. An address such as [email protected] is now or soon will be [email protected] . I didn't check to see if it affects any members here -- I am posting this to all my lists. If you are having any problem posting, subscribing or unsubscribing let me know and I'll try to help. Btw, to all members, I didn't include it in the welcome message (yes, there will be an updated version soon) but if you can't remember my address send to [email protected] (change "listname" to whatever list you are refering to, for example [email protected]) and it will be forwarded to me. Regards, David --- Listowner, Dyer, Foster, Friend, Gamage, Glidden, Gordon, Merry, Shippee, Sylvester, Washburn ... Genealogy: It's not a hobby, it's an obsession. [email protected] - http://www.agate.net/~davids/geneal.html _______ .------|_______ David Sylvester ------+ _______ PO Box 135 `------|_______ Searsport, Maine 04974 Member: New England Historic Genealogical Society Member: The International Internet Genealogy Society

John, At 06:37 AM 8/22/97 -0600, you wrote: >Hi John Maltby. > >Thank you for the good work. > >Quoting you to the WASHBURN-L on 20 Aug 97: > >> The handwriting was changing during this period, indicating that >> entries were probably being made simultaneous to the events, and >> that a certain number of pages were purposely left blank for >> further entries. > >I was wondering about that; that is, is the parish record simply one >that had been copied from an older record, or is it the original. > >I suspected it was a copy when you mentioned in a previous message >that the clerk sometimes truncated his sentences when he got to the >edge of the paper. > >-- >John Clement, 6940 E. Girard 205, Denver, CO 80224-2917 >Email: [email protected] Voice: 303-691-0613 > > Thanks for bringing this up, John. At first I assumed that these were originals, but later became suspect, and am now almost certain that from 1538 to about 1598 must have been recopied into the book I am reading. In the first place, they would have been unable to accurately leave just enough room for christenings and weddings each year before beginning burials. There are no "crammed in" entries at the end, and there are no gaps at the end of each before the beginning of the next. Christenings are followed immediately by weddings, which are followed immediately by burials, which are followed immediately by the next year's christenings, etc. Although I am not by any means a handwriting expert, in my opinion the years 1538 to 1598 could have all been written by the same person, since the handwriting style is relatively unchanged, allowing for normal fatigue, quill wear, and paper decay. Of course, reading them on microfilm, I have no way of judging the color of the ink on the original, so I cannot use that as a guideline. I have therefore concluded that the early years must have been copied from an earlier book, which in 1598 may have been falling apart, and has probably been discarded. The fact that some of these entries could have been misread by the copier must be acknowledged, since no one would be able to copy 60 years' worth of records without a single error, and there may also be omissions, but this may still be the best that has been preserved into the 20th century. If there exist Bishop's Transcripts for these years from Bengeworth, it will be worth cross-checking. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Thanks again, John, for your wonderful work and time and effort in educating us about our Washburn family. I'm leaving in 2 weeks for England and plan a visit to Great and Little Washburn and Bengeworth...is there anything special I need to see while there..Hate to think about being there and missing something very important due to my ignorance...best regards, joyce howard, sun lakes, az.

LOUISA M WASHBORN Wife of the late John Harvey, Jr. Age 47 y'rs 1878 6m's 14d's Died Mar 29, 1878 ******** JOHN HARVEY, Jr. Died Dec 18, 1872 age 47's 9 mo's and 15 d's This is as written on a headstone found in road side cemetery in Stanstead County, Quebec, Canada Hope it helps someone. Denise Drew

I am posting a very short Part III to my transcriptions of the St. Peter's Parish Records from Bengeworth, Worcestershire, England, because I wanted to finish the children of John and Martha Washborne, including the important baptism of William Washborne, the early settler of Hempstead, Long Island, and because I wanted to correct some of the entries in my Part I posting. I also found some interesting Nichols data I wanted to share. In re-reading the 1599 Christenings, I discovered that the year did change to 1600 part way through. The baptism of Jone Washborne was in December of 1599, as I posted in Part II, and there were no other Washburns baptized in 1600. I also discovered that the burials and marriages were not omitted from 1599 and 1600. The format of the register changed. Christenings went from 1599 to 1607, then began again in 1612 continuing to 1622. Then burials for 1599 began, and followed through 1622, then marriages. The handwriting was changing during this period, indicating that entries were probably being made simultaneous to the events, and that a certain number of pages were purposely left blank for further entries. The clerk during much of this period had a very small script that is even more difficult to read, and I will have to re-read it with an enlarger to be sure I missed nothing of importance. Anno DM 1601 William the Sonne of John Wasborne was baptized the ixth daie of November Ano 1604 et Jacobi Dno nn? Regni 2 Jone the Daughter of John Wasborne was Bap. the xith Daie of Aprill Those of you with New York Whitehead ancestry, I looked for the baptism of Daniel Whitehead in Bengeworth from 1599 through 1607, but did not find it. In fact, I found no Daniels at all being baptised during that period, nor Whiteheads, even though Whiteheads had earlier lived in Bengeworth. For those of you with New York or Connecticut Nichols ancestry, I found some interesting Nicols baptisms, marriages and burials that may be related to the Hempstead branch of Washburns: Weddings eodom ano (1597) William Nicols and Ales Phelps were married the xixth of January Anno DM 1598 et R.E.R. 40 Chrystenings Item the first of September was Bap. Willis Nicols, William Shorthasell and Wm Nicols godfathers e Margarett Ordwaye godmother and the same daie buried Item Joane Nicols was bap. the xiith Daie of Febu., Mary Deock? and Joane Shorthasell godmothers e William Phelps godfather Anno DM 1599 et R.E.R. 41 Thomas Nicols the Sonne of Thomas Nicols was Baptised the xxiith Daie of July Thomas gontloman? and David SanSome e Anne Shorthasel gods. Burials 1599 Joane the Daughter of Wm Nicols the iiiith of Aprill Ano 1604 et Jacobi Dno nn? Regni 2 Francis the Sonne of Wm Nicols was baptized the Second daie of October Jane the Daughter of Tho. Nicols was Bap. the 6th Daie of January Since I am not as familiar with the Nichols family as many of you, please let me know if this 1604 baptism of Francis Nichols is within the realm of possibilities for Francis Nichols of Stratford, CT. I am aware that the I.G.I. has a marriage year for Francis Nichols of 1612, but there is no support for this entry, and it is highly suspect. I will continue to search for the Nichols, as well as Washburn, Moore, Taylor, Whitehead, and Bushell names in the St. Peter's Parish Register. --+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-- Corrections to Bengeworth Parish Records, Part I In double checking some of the earlier records from St. Peter's Parish, Bengeworth, Worcestershire, England, that I was unsure about, I feel it necessary to eliminate a few entries that I thought at the time might be Washburn, but have since decided are not Washburn after all. 1545 The marriage of William Wasbon and Agnes Foyun?/Foyer? was actually that of William Watson not Wasbon. 1548 The christening of Elizabeth Wasbon was actually that of Elizabeth Watson. 1553 The marriage of Thomas Lyonwood and Agnes Wasborne actually was in 1554, not 1553, and was between Thomas Harwood and Agnes Watson. The capital H is tricky; at first glance it looks like "Ly." 1569 The marriage between ____ Bushel and Margarett Wasburne should actually read: The viith Daie of October were married John? Bushel and Margarett Wasburne. The 2 or 3 words that I was unable to read earlier were actually, I believe, "were married John". The "John" is in a dark smear. The letters "oh" are decipherable, however, leading me to believe that "John" is probably correct. 1570 The christening of Marian Bushell? in which John Wasborne was named as godfather should read: Item the xxiith of December Marian Rodall?, John Wasborne godfather, Marian Noroton? and Katherine Horton godmothers. The child's surname was not Bushell. More corrections later as I find them. Thanks for the feedback I'm receiving on the first two messages. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Looking for the ancestors of Martha Washburn (b. 24/25 Jan 1795 in Dorset, Vermont or possibly in New York; d. 22 Apr 1894 in Linn Co., Oregon). She married Abram (Hiram) Underhill (b. 4 May 1794 in Dorset, Vermont; d. 9 Sep 1868 in Prophetstown, Whiteside Co. Illinois) on 12/13 Sep 1868.

John, From all of us Washburns decended from John of Duxbury and Bridgwater a great big thank you for your hard work and attention to detail. You have provided new material to add to our linniage. Thanks, George Washburn Sandwich Ma.

Marilyn Powell & others, At 08:35 PM 8/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >John, > In reading over what you wrote, I am questioning my removal to >another program and wonder if I inadvertently changed a couple of dates. >In the paragraphs below, you wrote in Part I: > >>"The esteemed E.A.B. Barnard, in "Some Notes on the Evesham Branch of the >>Washbourne Family," 1914, found the earliest Washburn entry as the 23 Feb. 1539 >>burial of Thomas Wasborne. I looked carefully through what I could read of the >>1539 burials, but could not verify this record. I did find one burial for that >>date, which I read as: >> >>Ano "1639" Buriings Correction: this actually read "Ano 1539 Buriings" >>The 23rd Daye of February was buried Thomas ___________. > >>The surname, unfortunately, on the microfilm was completely unreadable, being >>in, what appears to be, a dark, moldy part of the page. By the entries, it is >>evident that this date was actually 23 Feb. 1539/40, it appearing in >>chronological sequence after December "1639".< >... >John, I placed the quote signs around the two dates I am wondering about. Is >this the way your records read? > Sorry, these should have been 1539, not 1639!! (My typos.) Thanks for pointing these out, Marilyn. >Thanks for your help. >Marilyn W. POwell >. > > John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Norman, At 05:08 PM 8/16/97 -0700, you wrote: >John, > >Thanks for all the information, and the continuation of the research. It >is terrific! >I do have one question, have you ever gotten a firm link from the John >Washburn who married Emme, and died in Jan 1547, to be the son of the >John Washburn born 1451 who married Joan Mitton (Mytton)? I have seen that >there is a dispute because the second John was in Bengeworth, and the >first in Wichenford. Just checking - thanks. > >Norm > No. I have not found a link, although there may be one. The highly respected researcher F.A.S. Barnard studied this problem in the early 1900s, and published his work in 1914 in "Some Notes on the Evesham Branch of the Washbourne Family," which is available as a reprint from Higginson Books. His studies were unable to link the two families together. The John Washborne of Evesham and Bengeworth whose wife was Emme was certainly not an heir of John and Joan (Mitton) Washburn of Wichenford, and should therefore not be assumed to have been a son. However, Barnard speculated that the two branches were probably connected several generations earlier. As a result of Barnard's research, Frederick Lewis Weis and others have eliminated the Washburn line as "proven" Royal descent. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

John, Just a note to say again that your effort and diligence in studying the Bengeworth Records is VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. Your descriptions of the deciphering add to our understanding of the difficulty in researching those records. Applause, applause for your continued study! Marilyn Washburn Powell [email protected] .

Washburn researchers, This is the second installment of transcriptions from the Parish Register of St. Peter's, Bengeworth, Worcestershire, England, ancestral home of the Washburns of Plymouth Colony and Hempstead. Anyone who missed the first installment, in which I posted the Washburn entries I had found from 1538-1570, can e-mail me directly at [email protected], and I'll forward a copy of it to you. Reading the 16th century parish registers is like reading a foreign language. The formation of the letters is so different from our cursive script today, and even that of the late 18th C. founders of our government. In addition a lot of Latin words are sprinkled in. I'm finding, however, that the longer I spend with it, by small degrees, the easier it gets. Each year generally begins with Anno Domini (In the year of our Lord), usually abbreviated, and with the reign of Queen Elizabeth, also generally has the year of her reign. The dates are usually expressed in small roman numerals, in a cursive style. The x's are generally easy to pick out, the i's are also easy by just counting the dots, but the v's are difficult sometimes. Very often in the entries there is no month written, and it is therefore assumed to have occured in the same month as the preceeding entry, i.e. Item the xith of January Thomas Smith ... Item the xiiith John James ... Item the xixth Jone Wilson ... Many words are abbreviated, often simply because the writer reached the end of the page, so the last word was sacrificed rather than dropping to the next line. Sometimes words are hyphenated, but I never saw the use of a dash. The writer simply finished the word on the next line, causing additional confusion, especially when it was a surname. What we know today as an ampersand (&) was written generally as "e," short, I assume, for the Latin et, meaning "and." I found no Washburn entries in the years 1571, 1572, or 1573. The next Washburn entry I found was in 1574: Ao DM 1574 et 16 Regni Elizabeth Christenings Item the xxiiiith was borne Edmond Haynes e Miralos Darle godfather e Agnes Wasborne godmother In this entry the month was not specified, but was presumed to be March, since the preceeding entry was March. From here on, since this practice was so common, I will put the month in parentheses, (March). There were no Washburn entries in 1575. The next Washburn entries were in 1576: Ao Dm 1576 of Rg. Elizabeth Christenings Item the xiiith Daie (of January) Margaret Gattesley, Margarett Borland? e Margarett Wasborne godmothers and Robart -orbank?/- orbens godfather The godfather's surname could have been Gorbens, Yorbens, Gorblens, etc... This name is common in the records, but I'm not sure what it is supposed to be. The next entry, also in 1576, was extremely difficult to decipher: Item the xith Daie (of February) Jone Phelps, Wm? Gorbins? god. Ellnor Wasborne and Katherine? Henlo? godmothers The next year after 1576 in the register was very clearly written 1579. There was no 1577 or 1578, nor were there even pages allotted to those years, however, as noted below, it was almost certainly 1578. Ano Dm 1579 et Regni Elizabeth 20 Christenings Item the xxith Daie (of February) Radegonno? Wasborne, the Daughter of John Wasborne The next year, however, also says "Ano Dm 1579 et Regni Elizabeth 21." Undoubtedly the previous year should have been 1578, especially since 1574 was the 14th year of the reign of Elizabeth, then 1578 would have been her 20th year, and 1579 her 21st year. I found no Washburn entries in 1579. In the year 1580 I found: Buryings eodem ano The same Daie (xxith of August) Wm? Wasborne I am not at all sure about the name Wm. This same name is written in several different records, and it is very short and difficult to figure out. The m is raised, and has a long tail running off the end of it. The first letter could be a W or an M, but evidently is a male, not female name, as evidenced by the use of it in connection with a godfather in several instances. The year 1581 was only partly legible, and very dark and moldy, but I found no Washburns. The next Washburn entry was in 1582: Ano Dm 1582 et Regn mo Elizabeth xo? xxiiiith Chrystenings Item the xxiith Daie of June Daniell Wasborne the Sone of John Wasborne The next Washburn entry I found was in 1584: Ano Dm 1584 et R.R. ma Elizabeth xxvih Chrystenings Item the xiith Daie of December Mary Wasborne the Daughter of John Wasborne I need to expand the scope of this bulletin here briefly, because of the important marriage which occured in 1585 in Bengeworth of the parents of Margery Moore, wife of John Washburn, the immigrants to Plymouth Colony. My apologies to those of you descended from William Washburn, of Hempstead. Bear with me for the sake of your Massachusetts cousins. Knowing beforehand that Margery Moore's parents were supposedly married in Bengeworth, I had been keeping an eye out for Moores and Taylors, in addition to Washburns. According to the I.G.I., the marriage occured on the 19th of November, 1585, but it looks to me more like the 9th. Previous to this marriage, I had found no records of Moores or Mores in Bengeworth, but quite a few Taylors, including a seemingly endless stream of Thomas Taylors. The marriage of Margery Moore's parents did, indeed, occur in Bengeworth in 1585. I read it as: Ano Dm 1585 ao R.E.R. xxvii Weddings eodem ano Robert More and Elen Taylor the ixth of November The "i" in the date is back slanted, and the dot is actually above the x, rather than the i, but I see only one x. If they were married on the 19th, it would have been written "xixth." I did not find the 1567 christening of Ellen Taylor in Bengeworth, as expected; according to other sources she was supposedly baptised in Alvechurch, Worcestershire, rather than Bengeworth. Her parents were supposedly George Taylor and Elizabeth Pepill. I have not proven this, nor have I found the birth of a George Taylor early in Bengeworth. I also looked, but cound not find the birth of a Robert More from about 1558 through 1566. I found no Washburn entries for 1585, 1586, or 1587, but predictably I found a Moore baptism in 1587: Ano Dm 1587 et R.E.R. xxix Chrystenings Item the iiith Daie of August Anne More the Daughter of Robert. Thomas? Taylor godfather, Anne? James? and Mary Byshop? godmothers In 1588, the word Christenings was discontinued in the heading, and they were referred to as either baptisms or christenings in the entries. In 1588 was the baptism of Margery Moore, who would later become the wife of John Washburn, the immigrant to Plymouth Colony: Ano Dm 1588 et R.E.R. xxx Item Margery the daughter of Robart More baptised the third of November. An unexpected entry in 1589 caught me by surprise: Ano Dm 1589 et R.E.R. xxxi Burials eod. ano The xiiith of Maye Robart More, InnKeeper I studied the word InnKeeper for about 20 minutes before deciding on it. Capital I's and J's look almost identical, and capital K's are very difficult to decipher. This was apparently, however, not the same Robert Moore whose wife was Ellen Taylor, because another daughter of Robert Moore was baptised in 1592. No Washburn entries were found from 1585 through 1591. The next Washburn entry was found in 1592: Anno Dm 1592 et Regm Regina ina? 34 The xxxth of September was Baptised Elizabeth More the Daughter of Robert More glon? I can't figure out the word after Robert More. It certainly isn't "dec'd." I assume it must be an occupation. Buryals eod. ano The iiith of June Margarett Wasborne Part of 1593 was moldy and very hard to read, but luckily John Washburn's burial was readable: Anno Dm 1593 et R.E.R. 35 Buryalls eod ano John Wasborne was buryed the xiiith Daie (of October) I found a Washburn and a Moore entry in 1594: Ano Dm 1594 e R.E.R. 36 The xiiiith of February (was baptised) Thomas Oborthasall?, Thomas? Ridge, John Wasborne godfathers, Ann Shorthasell? godmothers The translation of the surname Oborthasall or Shortasell is very uncertain. It is very difficult to decipher. The initial letter may have been a capital O or S, in a German style. After Thomas it definately looks like an "O", but the way the letter was written in the godmother's name could have been anything. In later writing of this surname, the letter looks more like an S. Weddings eodem ano John More e Dhrisian? Vohen? were married vth of February The bride's name is very uncertain, especially the first two letters of the given name, and the first letter of the last name. 1595, for some reason, was very sparse. There were only 3 baptisms and 1 burial. I found several entries in 1596 of interest: Anno Dm 1596 et R.E.R. 38 Item the xxvith of June (was baptised) Jone Home, Gyles Wasborne godfath, Jone Shorthasall? e Elnor Darlo godmother The xxvth of January (was baptised) Margarett More, Agnes Taylor e Agnes More godmoth. and George Bennett god. Weddings eodem ano Impris John Wasborne e Martha Stevens were married the vth of July Other sources have the date as the 6th of July, possibly taken from the Bishop's Transcripts, but the parish register definately has no i after the v in the date. This is the marriage of the parents of the Washburn immigrant ancestors, John Washburn of Plymouth, and William Washburn of Hempstead. Ano DM 1597 et R.E.R. 39 The Second of July was baptised John Wasborn the sonne of John Wasborne This is the birth of John Washburn, who married Margery Moore, and immigrated to Plymouth Colony. Burials eodo ano Item the xvith Daie (of May) the Daughter of John More Anno DM 1598 et R.E.R. 40 Chrystenings Item George Tanto? was bap. the viith Daie of feb. Thomas Ridge and John Wasborne godfathers and Margarett Godson godmother. Item Martha Price? was bap. the xxviith of February. Martha Wasborne e Elizabeth Gorkins? god. Thomas Gottesley? godfather The next year, 1599, christenings ran on very long, probably through 1600, part of which became very hard to read. Also, there were no marriages or burials recorded during this period, 1599- 1600. Anno DM 1599 et R.E.R. 41 Chrystenings Martha Griffine the Daughter of Edward Griffin bap. the vth Daie of Maye, John Hall Martha Wasborn e Ales Ridge gods. Jane Wasborne the Daughter of John Wasborne was baptised the Second Day of Decemb. Msis Jone Watson Agnes Shortasall e Hacko? Diston gods. This is as far as I've been able to get thusfar. The reading is very slow, and the number of records per year are growing. In addition to Washburns, beginning with 1597 I'm beginning to see a few Nicols in the records, which I'm also writing down, but I haven't seen a Francis or Isaac Nicols/Nichols yet. Since I'm also seeing Whiteheads occasionally, I'm keeping an eye out for a Daniel Whitehead. My next posting will begin with 1601. One more thing, however, in looking back over some of the previous entries, I found one I had missed in 1564 christenings: Item the Same Daie (xxiith of February), Jone ___, Jone Wasborne e Jone Moring? godmothers and Thomas Barns godfather. The surname of the christened child is very short, 3 letters, which look like "vxn," but are probably not. I welcome comments on what I've found or not found. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Hope this helps Kingston, MA burial records from The May Desc., Vol 7, #4, pg 222-223 WASHBURN Anna, wife of Seth, Jan. 25, 1786, 38 yrs. Anna, dau. of Seth and Anna, Mar. 31, 1786, 2 mos. 11 dys. Bartlett A., son of Bildad and Lucy, May 19, 1810, 6 mos. Betsey, dau. of Bildad and Lucy, June 19, 1820, 35 yrs. Betsey, wife of Jehial, July 20, 1837, 70 yrs. Bildad, Sept. 28, 1832, 70 yrs. Deborah, widow of Deac. Jabez, Oct. 8, 1802, 85th yr. Deborah, widow of Elisha, July 1, 1849, 89 yrs. Ebenezer, Sept. 13, 1738, 29 yrs. 26 dys. Ebenezer, Jan. 26, 1810, 74 yrs. Elisha, July 20, 1734, 30th yr. Elisha, son of Deac. Jabez and Judith, June 29, 1754, 20 yrs. Elisha, June 11, 1839, 81 yrs. Elkanah, Jan. 5, 1831, 80th yr. Fear, wife of Seth, Apr. 9, 1782, 43 yrs. Ichabod, Oct. 4, 1798, 29th yr. Jabez, Jr., Feb. 17, 1775, 41 yrs. 9 mos. 25 dys. Jabez (Deac.), Apr. 1, 1794, 86 yrs. Jabez, Dec. 24, 1798, 28th yr. James, Son of Ebenezer and Sarah, Dec. 27, 1769, 9 mos. 12 dys. James, Oct. 30, 1805, 29 yrs. 1 mo. 28 dys. Jehial, Aug. 10, 1837, 74 yrs. 10 mos. Jenny, widow of John, Oct. 14, 1804, 40th yr. Job M., Oct. 29, 1838, 34 yrs. 6 mos. John (Deac.), June 17, 1750, 79th yr. John, son of Deac. Jabez and Judith, June, 1763, 23 yrs. John, Oct. 5, 1801, 38th yr. Judith, wife of Deac. Jabez, Mar. 3, 1752, 41 yrs. 2 mos. 2 dys. Kimball, June 20, 1825, 41st yr. Lucy, dau. of Jabez and Polly, Oct. 20, 1795, 1 mo. 13 dys. Lucy, widow of Bildad, Nov. 30, 1849, 84 yrs. Mary, widow of Jabez, Jr, Feb. 15 1779, 44 yrs. 10 dys. Mercy, widow of Elkanah, Sept. 4, 1844, 86 yrs. Molly, dau. of Deac. Jabez and Judith, June 14, 1754, 12 yrs. Nathaniel, son of Bildad and Lucy, Mar. 9, 1796, 1 yr. 11 mos. Nehemiah; son of Ephraim and Egloth, Apr. 13, 1751, 1 yr. 10 mos. 2 dys. Orpha, dau. of Mrs. Hannah, Apr. 12, 1804, 2 yrs. 10 dys. Patience, wife of Capt. Philip, Mar. 17, 1826, 53 yrs. Phillip (Capt.), Mar. 22, 1854, 86 yrs. 7 mos. 14 dys. Priscilla, wife of Capt. Judah, June 7, 1813, 65 yrs. Rebecca, July 24, 1827, 84 yrs. Sarah, widow of Ebenezer, Jan. 25, 1826, 88th yr. Simeon, Mar. 16, 1764, 26 yrs. 1 mo. 5 (or 15) dys. Simeon, July 6, 1805, 34 yrs. 4 mos. 5 dys. Susanna, dau. of Deac. Jabez and Judith, Apr. 26, 1756, 19 yrs. Thomas, son of Deac. Jabez and Deborah, Mar. 11, 1759, 3 yrs. 5 mos. Wiborah, wife of Deac. John, Feb. 6, 1743, 72nd yr.

Members, List mail will likely be slow and/or erratic today and possibly longer as Rootsweb performs maintenance on their equipment. You may continue to send messages to the lists -- none will be lost -- but expect delays in delivery. David --- Listowner, Dyer, Foster, Friend, Gamage, Glidden, Gordon, Merry, Shippee, Sylvester, Washburn ... Every family tree has some sap in it [email protected] - http://www.agate.net/~davids/geneal.html _______ .------|_______ David Sylvester ------+ _______ PO Box 135 `------|_______ Searsport, Maine 04974 Member: New England Historic Genealogical Society Member: The International Internet Genealogy Society

Hello, I am a 6th Great-grand daughter of Abishai Washburn originally of Bridgewater MA, who died in Middlebury, Addison County VT on 14 September 1812. I did find a reference to Jerusha Foster in my records however not married to Daniel. She appears to have been the wife of a Benjamin Washburn and the mother of Betsey Washburn who married Jospeh Adams. Betsey and Joseph are buried in Middlebury, VT as per the book "Inscriptions copied from the gravestones in Middlebury, VT" published by Francis F. Spies in 1927 (This book is in the stacks at NEHGS, Boston). Betsey died in 1840 at age 52 and appears in town records as being born in Middlebury, VT May 19, 1784. If her parents, Jerusha and Benjamin, were about 29 or 30 at the time of her birth this would make them of the same generation as your Daniel. Now what is their relationship to him? Did Jerusha marry him after Benjamin's death? Where did you get your information about Jerusha and Daniel being husband and wife? I can place Jerusha Foster in Middlebury, where Abishai and his family lived and died. I can place her married into the Washburn family. I can tell you she had children at about the time Daniel would have had children. But that's about it I think. I'm very interested in any relationship she or Daniel may have had to Abishai. How do you think your Daniel is grand nephew of Abishai's (from which of his brother's -- he had 4). I also see the Daniel listed as son of Daniel & Experience, born March 15, 1755 in Bridgewater, but don't know how his father relates to Abishai. Both Daniel and Benjamin are fairly common Bridgewater Washburn names. Let me know what you come up with... Sheila ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Michael Helfenbein.....Evolution Design........203.795.6895 Graphic Design................Orange, [email protected] Specializing in digital design & production for print & electronic media ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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