Seeking additional information about Johnathan WASHBURN, m Hannah DRAKE, issue Ebenezer B. WASHBURN. Hannah’s father was William DRAKE. Dates unknown. Any response appreciated. Leon D. Leeds [email protected]

Here is an article I found in Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter recently. As to your gasps of horror at the subject title -- well, we all know how we got here don't we?! :) But relax and read on -- I assure you it is safe to read. :) David ****************************************************************** The following article is from Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter and is copyright 1997 by Richard W. Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. It is re-published here with the permission of the author. Thank you for your cooperation. ***************************************************************** - How Your Ancestors Made Love OK, admit it. You read the table of contents at the beginning of this newsletter and then turned to this article first, didn't you? Well, the real story isn't quite as titillating as it sounds. A&E Network in the United States has produced a documentary called "Love in the Ancient World" that touches on sexual practices, marriage rites, homosexuality and the first stirrings of romantic love through major civilizations. I haven't seen the program, but the announcement says, "It ranges from the taboo-less Ice Ages to the Platonic Greeks to the incestuous Pharaohs and fun-loving Romans -- with nary a "nudge- nudge, wink-wink" in sight. "Love in the Ancient World" begins in the second Ice Age, with the cult of female worship, which, sadly, had been annulled by the time of Hammurabi's Code. Husky-voiced Kathleen Turner, with frank narration, takes the audience through the ages, and the analysis of gods and God in relation to sex and morality turns up some interesting conclusions. "Some things never change, though, as it is shown that the double standard in regard to sexual behavior (men with many partners are macho, women are tramps) is as old as Ur, and yes, it does seem that prostitution is the world's oldest profession." Kathleen Turner hosts the program, which was filmed in Rome, Greece and Egypt by Mileian Film Prods. and Primetime Entertainment in association with A&E Network. Check your local TV listings for date and times. ****************************************************************** --- ... Adam and Eve probably found genealogy a bit boring. [email protected] - http://www.agate.net/~davids _______ .------|_______ David Sylvester ------+ _______ PO Box 135 `------|_______ Searsport, Maine 04974 Member: New England Historic Genealogical Society Member: The International Internet Genealogy Society

Karen McClendon wrote: >Not all early Washburns lived in Mass. Two brothers, John and Thomas, >were in Culpeper Co, VA, during the Revolution. Thomas's daughter, >Asenath "Senie," married my Robert Bywaters. I have no idea where John >and Thomas came from. How did you connect John and Thomas as brothers? John seems to be the classic enigma to me: I haven't found any of his siblings or parents. I'm descended from him through his presumed son Benjamin A. Jud Hofmann

>I believe John's line eventually ended up in what is now Harrison County, >WV. I'd be interested in any connections to these lines. > >Joy Gilchrist Not all of them: one of John's presumed sons, Benjamin A., ended up in Kentucky. I'm descended from John via Benjamin's granddaughter, Martha Ann. This line was all in KY. Jud Hofmann

I am looking to find out more about Lydia Washburn, b. 1809 or 1810 in Griswold, CT, she is the daughter of Elijah W. Washburn and Lydia A. Green who were born in Preston, CT (We believe) and who married in 1809 in Preston, CT. I know very little about Lydia Washburn, only that she married Adolphus Harrison and they lived in the Town of Brute, Erie County, NY. I would like to discover descendants, if any of Lydia and Adolphus. C. Jeanne

Some of you have asked me how to get archives of the messages in these lists at RootsWeb. Though I've seen some explainations in the Listowners List it hasn't been all that clear, but I just found this online explaination so if anyone wants to give it a whirl: <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.html> If any of you cannot access this site because you do not have web access, let me know and I'll forward a copy to you by email. Good luck. David --- Listowner, Dyer, Foster, Friend, Gamage, Glidden, Gordon, Merry, Shippee, Sylvester, Washburn ... Adam and Eve probably found genealogy a bit boring. [email protected] - http://www.agate.net/~davids _______ .------|_______ David Sylvester ------+ _______ PO Box 135 `------|_______ Searsport, Maine 04974 Member: New England Historic Genealogical Society Member: The International Internet Genealogy Society

I thought some of you in the Northeast might be interested in the following. I can't go, unfortunately I already have plans for the 20th. David ****************************************************************** - NEHGS Computer Resources for Genealogists Seminar Boston-area residents may be interested in an upcoming seminar presented by the New England Historic Genealogical Society. A full day will be devoted to "Computer Resources for Genealogists" on Saturday, September 20, 1997. Doors open at 8:45 and the presentations begin promptly at 9:30 AM. There will be a vendor area for demonstrations and representatives from Wholly Genes Software (The Master Genealogist) and Parsons Technology (Family Origins) have already announced that they will attend. The NEHGS Book Sales department will also be in business at the seminar. The sessions include: "USGenWeb: An Expanding New resource for the Genealogist" by Robert E. Bamford, host of several sites on USGenWeb and Managing Director of Heritage Associates, Genealogical Consultants "Using LDS FamilySearch at NEHGS" by Scott A. Bartley, curator of the NEHGS manuscripts collection "CD-ROM Resources at NEHGS" by David Lambert, reference librarian for the micro-text and computer floor of the NEHGS library. "On-Line Genealogical Research Using Search Engines" presented by Dick Eastman, a person known for writing online newsletters "The Latest in Computer Resources for Genealogists: Ask the Experts", a discussion panel featuring all of the above speakers The fee for this seminar is $80. It will be held at the Old South Church, which is just around the corner from NEHGS. Seating is limited at this seminar. Tickets for last year's session were sold out well in advance, so I suggest you contact the society now for a reservation. Call the Society at 617-536-5740 extension 202 or toll-free at 1-888-AT-NEHGS or send e-mail to the Society at: [email protected] ****************************************************************** Copyright (C) by 1997 Richard Eastman and Ancestry, Inc. All rights reserved. ****************************************************************** --- ... Adam and Eve probably found genealogy a bit boring. [email protected] - http://www.agate.net/~davids _______ .------|_______ David Sylvester ------+ _______ PO Box 135 `------|_______ Searsport, Maine 04974 Member: New England Historic Genealogical Society Member: The International Internet Genealogy Society

Lets see if I can confuse the issue of Isaac NICHOLS' birthplace even further: FIRST GENERATION 1. Isaac NICHOLS was born in 1625 in , , England or Holland.1 He died in 1694/95 in Stratford, Fairfield, CT.2 He signed a will on Sep 28 1694 in Stratford, Fairfield, CT.3 He bequeathed his homestead and lands to Benjamin, after the deathe of his wife, and states that he had given as he was able to his other children. He had an estate probated on Nov 6 1695.4 He was elected as Deputy to the general assembly in Stratford, Fairfield, CT.5 SECOND GENERATION 2. Sergeant Francis NICHOLS6,7 was born between 1590 and 1595 in , , England.8 He immigrated between 1622 and 1630. He emigrated in 1634.9 He died on Jan 16 1649/50 in Stratford, Fairfield, CT.10,11 He was Puritan.12 He owned Land in Southold, Long Island, NY.13 He had an estate probated.14 His estate was distributed among his children before his death. He had military training and belonged to the Horse Guards of London, it is believed. Adopted Puritan beliefs and fled to the Hague to escape persecution. Accompanied by the Rev. Adam Blakeman he emigrated to America in 1634, taking with him his three sons, Isaac, Caleb, and John. He was one of the original Seven proprietors of the old township of Stratford, which he helped to found in 1639, and had a colonial grant of 10,000 acres. By his first wife he had one son. His son by his first wife, Isaac.... He was married to Mrs Nichols in 1612. 3. Mrs Nichols. THIRD GENERATION 4. Francis NICHOLS was born in 1575 in of Ampthill, Bedford, England.8,15 He died on Sep 6 1622.8,16 He was a Barrister of the Middle Temple.17 He was married to Margaret BRUCE.18,19 5. Margaret BRUCE20 died in 1651/52.8,21,22 She was born WFT Est 1571-1590.8 Youngest daughter. SOURCES 1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 2. Ibid. p. 2842. 3. Cutter, William Richard. New England Families. p. 1632. 4. Ibid. p. 1632. 5. Ibid. p. 1632. 6. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 7. Cutter, William Richard. New England Families. p. 1632. 8. World Family Tree. Brunderbund. 9. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 10. Ibid. p. 2842. 11. World Family Tree, pre-1600 to present. Broderbund, 1995-97. Pedigree Chart #4268. 12. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 13. Cutter, William Richard. New England Families. p. 1632. 14. Ibid. p. 1632. 15. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 16. Ibid. p. 2842. 17. Ibid. p. 2842. 18. Ibid. p. 2842. 19. Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland: containing an historicla and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904-1914. v.3, p. 485. 20. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry: Including American Families with British Ancestry. London: Burke's Peerage, 1939. p. 2842. 21. Ibid. p. 2842. 22. Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland: containing an historicla and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom. Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1904-1914. v.3, p. 485. Dave

I believe John's line eventually ended up in what is now Harrison County, WV. I'd be interested in any connections to these lines. Joy Gilchrist At 08:03 PM 8/30/97 +0000, Karen McClendon wrote: >Not all early Washburns lived in Mass. Two brothers, John and Thomas, >were in Culpeper Co, VA, during the Revolution. Thomas's daughter, >Asenath "Senie," married my Robert Bywaters. I have no idea where John >and Thomas came from. Can anyone connect them to a northern family? >Thanks for any help. >Karen > >

Greetings!: During the first part of October I'll be setting off from Seattle to make a tour of ancestral gravesites on my way to New York City. Asking for help in pinpointing grave locations. Specifically, need info on location of grave of Cyrus Washburn (1774-1860), resident of Vernon, Vermont. Also need location of his father, Ebenezer Washburn (1734-1795) Hardwick, Mass (?); his grandfather Joseph Washburn (1690-1759); great grandfather Joseph Washburn (1649-1733); great-great grandfather John Washburn (1621-1686); and finally his great-great-great grandfather, John Washburn (1597-1670), who arrived from England 1632. Since many of these men are common ancestors with many of you, perhaps you know "where the bodies are buried". I know that several generations are probably buried in Bridgewater, Mass., but need specific cemetaries. Cyrus was a leading citizen of Vernon, Vermont, and presumably he's buried there. Thanks for any help, and please let me know if you would like me to share any info I might come up with pertaining to my investigations. Sincerely, Ian M. Washburn [email protected] 206.523.7403

Can someone tell me where I could buy, borrow, or just look at a copy of THE RICHARD WASHBURN FAMILY GENEALOGY By Ada C. Haight?

We are trying to trace ancestry of Benjamin Washburn, born in 1750's or 60's. He probably lived in Sullivan County Tennessee - he received land grant there in 1782. His only child is Lewis Washburn who married Miss Moore, daughter of an emigrant from Ireland. Please reply to [email protected] Thank you Toby Bartholow

This will be, I presume, the final installment of my transcriptions of the St. Peter's Parish Register of Bengeworth, Worcestershire, England, although I foresee the possibility of future corrections being posted as they are uncovered. The registers end with the year 1622, and do not pick up again until roughly 1665, although there are a few entries for the years between interspersed in between other records and out of order. Specifically, I found one baptism each for the years 1641, 1644 and 1646, all on one page with the same father, a record for each of 1629 and 1635, and a few records for 1652, 1653, 1654, 1662, and 1664, all of unrelated families. The records then become amazingly organized and neat for a few years in the late 1660s into the 1670s, gradually becoming less neat as time goes on. However, since this time frame is beyond the scope of this search, I did not spend time reading these registers. I did have time to discuss the registers with a local expert on English research, John Gleed. He indicated that in 1599 Queen Elizabeth required that all parish registers be consolidated into a single book for each parish, with a copy sent to the diocese level. For many parishes, this was the beginning of the "Bishop's Transcripts" of records. This was both in an effort to organize the records, and to gain necessary information about each parish in order to be able to levy taxes. Needless to say, when ever taxes become involved, people find a way to avoid them if at all possible, which resulted in many parishes experiencing a steep decline in the number of baptisms, marriages, and burials performed. I suspect that since a parish collected money for each marriage, the diocese could easily levy a tax on each parish in preportion to the number of marriages performed the prior year. Mr. Gleed also informed me that a break in the records might indicate that the Rector had died, and hadn't been replaced right away. Often the Rector of a nearby parish filled in temporarily, and any baptisms, weddings or burials performed by him might be recorded in his own parish, rather than the one they were actually held in. He suggested checking the parish records in Evesham for some of the missing years, for instance 1577 is missing. Picking up where I left off from Part III, the handwriting for the years 1612 through 1622 was extremely difficult to decipher. It was as if the clerk was using a dull marking pen that was practically dried up for several years. The latter half of 1622 was especially bad. Many entries couldn't be read at all. The number of entries in some years were very small, indicating that they were obviously incomplete. (See my comment in a previous paragraph about taxation affecting the number of marriages performed.) Baptisms, 1612 - 1622: Anno Dm 1614 Elizabeth the Daughter of John Moore? bapt. September 2_th? day (I'm not sure about the date.) Anno dm 1615 Baptisms Samuell the Sonne of Giles Waseborne bapt. feb. iiiith Anno Domi 1616 Cassandra the daughter of William Nicols May the vth Anno Doni 1617 Samuel the Sonne of William Nichols the same day (The previous entry appears to be October xth, but I'm not sure about the date.) Anno Dmi 1619 (Baptisms) Mary the daughter of John Washburne the vith? of October _______ the daughter of Wm Nicholls the xxviiith of March (The name is in a smear; the first letter may be a C, but the name is too short for Catherine.) Anno Dm 1620 John the Son of John Washburne the xxvith of November Elizabeth the daughter of Giles Washeburn february the xviith? Anno Dm 1621 John the Sonn of Wm Nickolls Novembr the xivth Anno DM 1622 Philip the Sonne of John Washeburne June ________ (Very faded and hard to read. I can't make out the date at all.) Burials, 1599 - 1622: Anno DM 1599 Impris John More inkeep was buried the xxxth Daie of Mar. There were very few burials for 1607 and 1608, no burials at all in 1609 or 1610, and only 2 burials in 1611. (They must have taxed burials too!) After the few 1613 burials was left most of a blank page, in the center of which, in very large script, were two very clear signatures of a John Washborne, obviously in a very different hand than the surrounding records. I don't know the meaning of these two signatures, slightly different from each other is style: John Washborne 19. 1660 John Washborne The dot after the "19" is a small blob. Between the two signatures is a heart, made at the tail end of the "W" of the second signature. Following the two signatures are the 1614 burials, in the same hand as those of 1613. Anno Dmni 1614 Ellina Nickolls the xxith of August No other Washburn, Whitehead, Moore, or Nichols burials were found from 1615 through 1622. Weddings, 1599 - 1622: Anno Dm 1606 Nahaniah Moore e Margaret Ordway were married (No dates were given for any of the 1606 marriages) The 1618 marriage record for John Washburn and Margery Moore is key to this research, but the 1618 marriage records were in such bad shape, that I could not verify the record from the microfilm. In addition, 1620, 1621, and 1622 marriage records were wholly unreadable. If the marriage record for William Washburn was in these years, I could not tell. 1618 (Weddings) J___ Washab___ _____________ Moore the xx___ of November? That is as much of the record as I could make out, despite enlarging it. Another record that was searched for was that of the christening of Alice Phelps, the wife of William Nichols, who were married in 1597. I searched backwards from 1580, and finally found an Alyce Phelps christened in 1574: 1574 Chrystenings Item the xxiiith Daie Alyce Phelps, Roger harwood? godfather Alyce Ranlins e Alyce Rnshell?/Knshell? godmothers Unfortunately, the name of her father was not recorded in this record. There were other Phelps christenings during this period, but I could not guess who her father might be. I searched again for a third marriage for John Washburne (2nd) around 1578, but did not find one. As I mentioned earlier, 1577 is missing from the records. Finally, another researcher sent me a burial date for Jone Washburn, second wife of John Washburn (2nd), as 23 Apr. 1567 in Bengeworth. I sought to verify this, since it appeared I had overlooked it. The 1567 burials were blurry, apparently not the fault of the scribe, but that of the microfilm photographer. I found what appears to be the entry for Jone Wasburne, indeed in April 1567, but could not read the date because of the filming. I tried to enlarge it and photocopy it from the microfilm, but it still came out unreadable: Buryals eodem ano (1567) Item the ____ Apryll? Jone Wasborne was? ____ Lastly, I am having reservations about the 1 April 1567 christening of John Wasborne. In enlarging and photocopying this record, I'm not positive that the child being baptised was John Wasborne. The child's name was John, but the John Wasborne may have been the first godfather, not the child's name. Since I have a relatively good copy, I'm going to have others look at this entry. According to Ada C. Haight in "The Richard Washburn Family Genealogy," 1937, the christening of John Washburn (3rd) should have been on 1 Aug. 1566, not in 1567. I looked, but did not find a 1566 Washburn christening. In the enlarged photocopy the record appears to read: Item the first daie of Aprill John Bat? John Wasborne John norton godfathers and margarett ordway g___ I have also heard from another researcher that three daughters of William Washburn were baptised in Bengeworth: Sarah in 1626, Martha in 1627, and Mary in 1629, but their baptisms were clearly not in the St. Peter's Parish Register. I also failed to find a Margery Washburn of the appropriate age to have been the wife of Isaac Nichols, although if she had been baptised after 1622 it may have been in another parish. I welcome comments, particularly on those of you who have done additional research on Francis Nichols' or Daniel Whitehead's English ancestry and possible connections with the Washburns. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

I am looking for any connection to my gg-grandmother Nancy B. Washburn, b.about 1830. She was married to Robert F. Miller (b. about 1829 in Ohio) on Nov. 4, 1854 by a J.P. in LaCrosse, LaCrosse Co., WI. Their children were Franklin C. (1855), Charley (1856), Edwin (1860) and Roberta Nancy (1863), all born in Bangor, LaCrosse Co., WI. Nancy was declared insane on Apr. 5, 1876, and was assigned a guardian. She died Dec.6, 1897 in Bangor, and is buried with Robert (d.1867 as a result of illness contracted during Civil War) in the cemetery in Burns, WI.

At 12:20 PM 8/30/97 -0500, you wrote: >John, > >Does the New England Historical and Genealogical Society have a website? > >Thanks. > >Craig ><> >[email protected] > > Yes, it's at http://www.nehgs.org/ John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Not all early Washburns lived in Mass. Two brothers, John and Thomas, were in Culpeper Co, VA, during the Revolution. Thomas's daughter, Asenath "Senie," married my Robert Bywaters. I have no idea where John and Thomas came from. Can anyone connect them to a northern family? Thanks for any help. Karen

For those of you on the Washburn Mail-List who are not subscribers of The Register, but who are interested in either John Shaw, of Plymouth, or Humphrey Turner, of Scituate, in addition to your Washburn interest, the July 1997 issue, just released, of The New England Historical and Genealogical Register has an excellent, thoroughly and exhaustively researched article on John Shaw of Plymouth, and his 4 children: John Shaw, Jr., who apparently returned to England unmarried; Lt. James Shaw, who married Mary Mitchell, half-sister of Elizabeth (Mitchell) Washburn; Abigail Shaw, who married Stephen Bryant, of Plymouth; and Deacon Jonathan Shaw, who married first Phebe Watson, and secondly Persis (Dunham) Pratt, widow of Joshua Pratt. The article will be continued in the following issue of The Register, to include the Shaw grandchildren of John Shaw, their marriages, and their children. Also in the July issue is a short article identifying the long-sought-after wife and English origin of Humphrey Turner, of Scituate, MA., Lydia Gaymer, and identifies her parents in County Essex, England, and locates their marriage in Sandon, Essex. Those of you who do not yet belong to the New England Historical and Genealogical Society are urged to join. The benefits are outstanding; in addition to The Register, with its highest quality articles, there is also the quarterly newsletter, The Nexus, and there are the frequent seminars held not just in New England, but throughout the United States, that enable members to meet with some of the best genealogical scholars from New England. They also have an excellent lending library, which I have used by mail for many years with excellent results for those of you who happen not to live on the east coast. For those of you that do live near Boston, their library there, as you probably already know, is one of the best in the United States for depth of subject and for knowledgeable and helpful staff. John A. Maltby Redwood City, CA [email protected]

Hi Dianna, I would appreciate a copy of Benjamin's letter, although not sure where it might fit into my line of Washburns. I am trying to find the link between my Great Grandfather, William E. Washburn b. 1837 N.Y. - 1925 MI and his Washburn ancestors.

Thank you so much for the information on my ancestor, Washburn. The will was wonderful part of history to add to my file. Also, thank you for the suggestions to gather up more past information. My aunt left me the records used to validate each reference to authorities. I just have to sort them out. Again, Thank you, Midge Corcoran

I'd be grateful to receive copies of the letters. My gr gr gr grandfather was Benjamin Franklin Washburn who died in NC. I descended from Elizabeth Ray Washburn, Ben's dau by Delphia,his first wife. While this isn't the same Ben Washburn most likely, your Ben very probably is one of my Ben's descendants or relatives. My Ben died in 1863. I'll happily reimiurse you for any charges. Thanks, R. J. Taylor ([email protected]), 3612 Oak Haven Dr., Fr. Worth, TX, 76119-7245.