Hi: There's some records re Samuel Gardner available in the Ancestry military connection; and also a Samuel Gardiner treated at the Royal Naval Hospital, Bermuda. Lots of detail in the latter, but nothing directly genealogical. Paul On 28 January 2013 18:55, Vicki D <v1rd0@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Gus, Thank you for your helpful suggestions. I had not thought of the Crimean war. I went to the Forces War Records website and subscribed for a month to get information. There was a Samuel Gardner listed as being a private from the 38th Regiment of Foot, killed on 18 June 1855 at the First Attack on the Redan. However, I do not know if it is my Samuel Gardner. Would there be a pensioners record somewhere I could look? I did look for Samuel in 1861 censuses, but with no luck. Rosa Gardner, Samuel's daughter is seen in the 1861 census with mother Hannah and new family with John Lee in Coventry. Hannah & John Lee, they lived their entire married life in Coventry, Holy Trinity area -- and after the death of their young son in 1872, they "divorced without legal paperwork" and went their separate ways, marrying other persons. Hannah brought her children to the United States. Vicki D. > From: gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk >> To: warwick@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 06:33:14 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [WAR] Samuel Gardner, Coventry, Warwickshire >> >> Hi Vicki, >> >> No more than a guess, but have you considered the possibility that Samuel >> GARDNER had joined the Army [or, less probably, the Navy] and been one of >> the many casualties in the Crimean War of 1854-56? >> >> Another possibility is that the death of Samuel Jr could've led to the >> breakdown of the marriage. Divorce was a practical impossibility at that >> stage, and Hannah perhaps moved to the bigger city of Birmingham [which >> included most of the population of Aston] and maybe lied about her >> widowhood? >> >> Have you looked for her, Rosa, and Samuel Sr in the 1861 and later Censuses? >> These could well give clues... >> >> HTH >> >> Gus >> >> >> Hi all >> >> Hope someone may be able to assist with my research. My gr-gr-grandmother, >> Hannah Elliott married Samuel Gardner on 30 May 1853 at St. Peter's Chapel, >> Coventry. I have the marriage record. They were both silk weavers. They >> had a daughter, Rosa on 5 June 1854, Baptism 10 June 1855 at Holy Trinity, >> Coventry. I have the birth record. Then comes the tricky part. Hannah >> married John Lee at St. Peters & St. Paul's, Aston Juxta, Birmingham on 12 >> April 1857. I have the marriage certificate. So what happened to Samuel >> Gardner? I looked for a death record between 1855-1857 and found the death >> of a Samuel Gardner in Coventry in November 1856, so I ordered the record. >> Lo and behold, it was not the death of husband Samuel, it was the death of >> Hannah & Samuel's son (also named Samuel) on 8 November 1856 at the young >> age of 5 months old. So, what happened to husband Samuel Gardner? He >> seems to have disappeared. I find no record of death or burial for him, nor >> any records after! >> 1855, except for a mention as father of the infant Samuel on the boy's >> death record. He spent his entire life in Coventry, so what happened to him? >> Yet Hannah states she was a widow on her marriage to John Lee in 1857. It >> seemed odd that Hannah was married in Birmingham, as both John Lee & Hannah >> were not from this part of Warwickshire, yet there it is. Does anyone know >> of where I might look for information to track Samuel Gardner? Are there >> any newspaper sources where I might look for articles like this? I am in >> the USA, so I can't pop over to a local library or record center. Vicki D. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message