Thank you for your quick response. The registration District on my grandfathers entry of birth is West Bromwich, sub-district of Oldbury, in the county of Worcester. Where born New Meeting (?) Street Oldbury. The informant was his mother who gave her mark and her residence was New Meeting Street, Oldbury. It was suggested by someone that perhaps they didn't register on time and therefore used a different date for his birth in order to avoid the late fine. His older sister Mary verified that he was born on 5 July 1867 when he needed security clearance to work as a watchman in an oil refinery in Richmond, California during WWII. His many descendants used to hold huge celebrations for his birthday in July. It wasn't until 1991 that we discovered the birth certificate at St. Catherine's House with the October date. We look forward to seeing that area. Thanks, Sharon in Medford, Oregon, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franks (OPC)" <df10@cam.ac.uk> <warwick@rootsweb.com> Friday, September 14, 2007 7:05 AM > Inkford is a small hamlet within King's Norton. The Inkford Brook was the > boundary between Warwickshire and Worcestershire in the days of the > historic counties. There's only one Kings Norton, which was in > Worcestershire before becoming part of Birmingham. In 1867 it was in > Worcestershire. > > What form does the birth certificate take? In 1867 it should tell you the > County, Registration District and Sub-district, which one would expect to > be Kings Norton if he was born in Inkford, but it wasn't always the case > that a birth was registered in the registration district where the child > was born.. It might have been more convenient for the birth to be > registered in West Bromwich. Does it give the residence of the informant? > If the informant was his mother or father, that address is possibly where > he was born. > > Many people were under the impression that they were born at the place > where they lived as very small children: quite often research in the > registers shows that they were born elsewhere and moved to their childhood > home as a baby. > > David > > sharon crow wrote: >> Thank you so much for the information and web site regarding Kings Norton >> Union. My grandfathers siblings were born at Kings Norton. Is this the >> same Kings Norton as in Worcester? Did the county lines change? >> We hope to be able to come to that area to search for my great >> grandfather's grave marker, if there is one. Sanuel Bonner Kersey died >> 10 January 1868 at Queens Hospital, Bath Row age 35 of Brights disease of >> four years duration. This was at St. Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick. His >> children are as follows: >> >> 1. Mary Ann Kersey 10 January 1856 Kings Norton, Worcester and >> Christened Bristol Road Bridge (?). We have her certificate of entry of >> birth. >> >> 2. Martha Kersey 7 April 1857 West Bromwich, Stafford, England. >> >> 3. John Thomas Kersey 22 Dec 1859 West Bromwich, Stafford. We have >> never found evidence of his birth, only family tradition. He died as a >> teenager. >> >> 4. Samuel Bonner Kersey 19 January 1863, Kings Norton, Worcester. We >> have the certificate. Their residence was listed as Hiters Heath, Kings >> Norton. >> 5. My Grandfather James Kersey said all of his life that he was born at >> Inksford Brook on 5 July 1867, but we found the certificate at the FRC >> that said he was born 31 October 1867, Oldbury, West Bromwich, >> Worcester.. >> Any suggestions as to where to search and where to visit when we get >> there will be appreciated. >> Sharon Kersey Crow in Medford, Oregon. >> - > David Franks, Cambridge, England > Researching Castle and Tallis, Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, and Thomas > Castle, convict transported to Van Diemen’s Land > Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks > http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html
Sharon: My BERESFORD ancestors lived in New Meeting Street, Oldbury in the 1850s and 1860s, and so almost certainly knew your ancestors. New Meeting Street is fairly central in Oldbury, not far from the old market place. It is where the independent nonconformist chapel was located, which is presumably why it's called New Meeting Street. If you want to find out more about this ancestral line, the Rootsweb Black Country list is the best one to use. Best wishes Paul Prescott (Born and bred in Oldbury, now living in Scotland) ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon crow" <slcrow@mighty.net> To: "David Franks (OPC)" <df10@cam.ac.uk> Cc: <warwick@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Is this address a hospital Thank you for your quick response. The registration District on my grandfathers entry of birth is West Bromwich, sub-district of Oldbury, in the county of Worcester. Where born New Meeting (?) Street Oldbury. The informant was his mother who gave her mark and her residence was New Meeting Street, Oldbury. It was suggested by someone that perhaps they didn't register on time and therefore used a different date for his birth in order to avoid the late fine. His older sister Mary verified that he was born on 5 July 1867 when he needed security clearance to work as a watchman in an oil refinery in Richmond, California during WWII. His many descendants used to hold huge celebrations for his birthday in July. It wasn't until 1991 that we discovered the birth certificate at St. Catherine's House with the October date. We look forward to seeing that area. Thanks, Sharon in Medford, Oregon, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franks (OPC)" <df10@cam.ac.uk> <warwick@rootsweb.com> Friday, September 14, 2007 7:05 AM > Inkford is a small hamlet within King's Norton. The Inkford Brook was the > boundary between Warwickshire and Worcestershire in the days of the > historic counties. There's only one Kings Norton, which was in > Worcestershire before becoming part of Birmingham. In 1867 it was in > Worcestershire. > > What form does the birth certificate take? In 1867 it should tell you the > County, Registration District and Sub-district, which one would expect to > be Kings Norton if he was born in Inkford, but it wasn't always the case > that a birth was registered in the registration district where the child > was born.. It might have been more convenient for the birth to be > registered in West Bromwich. Does it give the residence of the informant? > If the informant was his mother or father, that address is possibly where > he was born. > > Many people were under the impression that they were born at the place > where they lived as very small children: quite often research in the > registers shows that they were born elsewhere and moved to their childhood > home as a baby. > > David > > sharon crow wrote: >> Thank you so much for the information and web site regarding Kings Norton >> Union. My grandfathers siblings were born at Kings Norton. Is this the >> same Kings Norton as in Worcester? Did the county lines change? >> We hope to be able to come to that area to search for my great >> grandfather's grave marker, if there is one. Sanuel Bonner Kersey died >> 10 January 1868 at Queens Hospital, Bath Row age 35 of Brights disease of >> four years duration. This was at St. Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick. His >> children are as follows: >> >> 1. Mary Ann Kersey 10 January 1856 Kings Norton, Worcester and >> Christened Bristol Road Bridge (?). We have her certificate of entry of >> birth. >> >> 2. Martha Kersey 7 April 1857 West Bromwich, Stafford, England. >> >> 3. John Thomas Kersey 22 Dec 1859 West Bromwich, Stafford. We have >> never found evidence of his birth, only family tradition. He died as a >> teenager. >> >> 4. Samuel Bonner Kersey 19 January 1863, Kings Norton, Worcester. We >> have the certificate. Their residence was listed as Hiters Heath, Kings >> Norton. >> 5. My Grandfather James Kersey said all of his life that he was born at >> Inksford Brook on 5 July 1867, but we found the certificate at the FRC >> that said he was born 31 October 1867, Oldbury, West Bromwich, >> Worcester.. >> Any suggestions as to where to search and where to visit when we get >> there will be appreciated. >> Sharon Kersey Crow in Medford, Oregon. >> - > David Franks, Cambridge, England > Researching Castle and Tallis, Warwickshire and Oxfordshire, and Thomas > Castle, convict transported to Van Diemen’s Land > Warwickshire Online Parish Clerks > http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/opc/opc.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message