Karen Have already checked 1851 and 1861 Census - George's Father was Joseph born c1818 in Coventry , but no Luke appears as a sibling. In fact very few Luke BALLARDs in whole Index. If you would like the Census Images happy to send them ! I think you need to check the Coventry P R's , its possible Joseph had a brother Luke and it was he who emigrated to NZ originally . Relooking at Index , think death of Luke BALLARD in 1908 , may be his father , another Luke died c 1935 both in Auckland area. Helen NZ _____ From: Brenda Pilson [mailto:brendapilson@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 6:01 p.m. To: Helen Verrall Subject: Re: [WAR] Ballard Family Hi, I don't know if you've already got this but maybe something might be useful. George Ballard married Maria Nurse September quarter 1867 in Atherstone district 6d page 413. Google freebdm, when you open the page do NOT put the name in the box at the top of the page (advertisement for Ancestry) but scroll down to where it says search BDM and go from there. Certificates from UK cost 7 pounds and can be purchased online from the government website. Their office is in the Liverpool area, maybe Southport from memory. Have you any parents name for George? Check for George with his parents in 1851 and 1861 census and possibly Luke could be a brother. Check for George with Maria in 1871, 1881 & 1891 to see if they are still in Uk. If they are missing from say 1881 still try 1891 as sometimes names are not spelt correctly or are missed in the index. My relations from Liverpool were in most census but missing in one so I used neighbours names from previous ones and they were still there just not in the index. Did George arrive in NZ with his children? His wife could have died on the ship on the way to NZ. Ancestry have all the census for England online but it costs quite a bit for a subscription. A much cheaper solution is to see which of your local libraries has Ancestry available and use it there. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ---- From: Helen Verrall <hverrall@ihug.co.nz> To: A & K Hitchcock <hitch.nz@xtra.co.nz> Cc: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 9 October, 2007 8:44:39 AM Subject: Re: [WAR] Ballard Family Sorry hit send before altering spelling ! Should be - BALLARD George Farmer Pukekohe E. Helen NZ -----Original Message----- From: warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:warwick-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of A & K Hitchcock Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2007 6:54 a.m. Cc: WARWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: [WAR] Ballard Family Good morning I'm new to research in this area. I have my g-grandfather George Ballard B 1844 Chilver Coton, Warwickshire, who was married to Maria Nurse and had 6 offspring - Rosa, Ada, George, Caroline, Horace and Ethel. Maria died (not sure where) and he left the UK and came to NZ, where he subsequently married my g-grandmother Mary Munro (nee White) on 1 February 1893. George and Mary were married at Luke Ballard's home here. I am trying to find out what relation/connection he has with George. Suggestions would be welcome. Cheers Karen Hitchcock Auckland, NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/taglines/default_all/storage/*http:/au.docs.yah oo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html> .