In a message dated 8/1/2007 8:52:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wendy.boland@bigpond.com writes: We may be able to help you further if you give us more details. e.g. Do you know approx when he died- wife's forename, any children - year of marriage etc etc Thank you Wendy, Well in re-reading that old letter I was mistaken he is mentioned like this: "Sarah Goldrings husband was Lord William H Goldring he was an great hunter and was killed." William H. Goldring Possible DOB 17 July 1804 South Hayling Hampshire died before the 1841 census. He was married to Sarah (?) Had one child Caroline Althea Goldring (Robbins). Sarah and Caroline are on the 1851 census in Warwick. However Sarah is the widow of Henry Gibbons by 1851. She and Henry are on the 1841 census with Caroline so that is how I come to believe he (William) died before 1841. Caroline Goldring was married under the name Gibbons in 1849 in Coventry and died in 1858 in Lemington (age 33) Her husband was James Robbins of Morton Morrell Warwick. James Robbins came to the US (1860) with his 4 children and his mother-in-law Sarah (?) who died in Utah in 1873. The letter I have was written by one of the 4 children about her family in England, but no where mentions Sarah's maiden name. I have searched for marriage for William and Sarah with no luck. I also cannot find Caroline's birth information. I have her death certificate. I have Ancestry and Pigots Directory's Warwickshire 1828, 1835. I would appreciate any help al all. Thank you, Jane ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour