Hello Covkid, 1936 was almost 71 years ago. Thanks Pete. ( Just looking for WELLS in with WILTSHIRE ROOTS in your area ) >----Original Message---- >From: warwick-request@rootsweb.com >Date: 05/08/2007 5:55 >To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> >Subj: WARWICK Digest, Vol 2, Issue 241 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Electoral rolls post 1900 (John Russell) > 2. Re: Jackson,Onions,Brookes (Carole Moon) > 3. Help, Isaiah Clive (stefan clive) > 4. Re: Help, Isaiah Clive (Mike Fisher) > 5. Re: Help, Isaiah Clive (Mike Fisher) > 6. Re: JACKSON,ONIONS,BROOKES (goyen) > 7. Re: JACKSON,ONIONS,BROOKES (goyen) > 8. identity ? (Gareth) > 9. HUDSON family of Coleshill 1758 - 1823. (Eusebius1) > 10. Re: identity ? (Adrienne Richards) > 11. Williams family, Stratford on Avon (Adrienne Richards) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:17:48 +0100 >From: "John Russell" <thecovkid@tiscali.co.uk> >Subject: [WAR] Electoral rolls post 1900 >To: <warwick@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <00f401c7d5e9$d573f0b0$0601a8c0@D7HLB51J> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I have recently run into the problem of indexing or accessing electoral roll for years >pre 1950, we are [well was] indexing all the WW2 + people living in hostels, but since >the new rules have come out we are no longer allowed to copy these [photocopy that >is], you can still transcribe them but not photocopy so you can transcribe at home?] > >Anyway, for the dates requested you may well run into a closed book, as you are not >related too the person etc etc. > >Suggest you do a quick Google for the local BBc radio station and get in touch with >them it sounds like a good story they may wish to pick up > >John > >John Russell >www.covkid.org.uk >www.virtualmuseum.co.uk > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 17:12:59 +0100 (BST) >From: Carole Moon <carolefh@yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Jackson,Onions,Brookes >To: goyen <goyen@ihug.co.nz>, WARWICK@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <49903.85346.qm@web23115.mail.ird.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Hello > > I had a look on the BMD index - are you talking about this entry? > > John Brookes Mother's maiden name - ONIONS > Registered Jan-Mar 1914 Birmingham ref 6d 301 > > If so then with the information you have given from the certificate it would appear that his mother was born Harriet Ellen Onions then she married for the first time to a Mr Jackson. Then either widowed or divorce and married for a second time to a Mr Brookes. > > This doesn't help find the name of his father but you could try find Harriet's two marriages. Have you found her on the 1901 census? > > Hope this helps > > Regards > > Carole > > goyen <goyen@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:00:52 +1200 > I have the Birth Certificate of an uncle; He is named as John ONIONS born 4 >Dec 1913 The mother is named as Harriett Ellen BROOKES formerly JACKSON, >Housekeeper of Cook Street Coventry, but the name of the father is omitted . > > > >Is anyone on this list able to help me unravel this mystery? Any suggestions >Please? > > > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your freeaccount today. > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:20:27 +1200 (New Zealand Standard Time) >From: "stefan clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz> >Subject: [WAR] Help, Isaiah Clive >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <46B3C64B.000005.02820@YOUR-NS7NXR4R4G> >Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi List, I am wanting to get the birth Certificate for Isaiah CLIVE, but >Having looked up the ancestry.co.UK bmd index I can not find him, > >The records I have on him are the 1881,1891,1901 Uk Census, his marriage >Cert and death cert and a possible 1871 census with name being a Josiah , > >The census all put him being born in Staff West Bromwich , England with a >Date range of 1864 to1866, I have searched Bmd index from 1862 to1868 but I >Cannot find him, > >Census puts his mother as Mary Clive, no father in census's, marriage cert >(1888) puts father as Isaiah Clive with words in brackets I think say Dec >(deceased)? > >What reasons could there be for him not being on Bmd Index, A change of name > >Would be one? > >Also Does GRO do searches, what would the cost be roughly for a search if >You do not know reference numbers, I have always ordered with the reference >Numbers > >What other options could there be to find his birth? > >Cheers >Stefan Clive >Researching, CLIVE, BEVAN, TREW/TROW, DAVIES, WILLIAMS > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 10:32:38 +0100 >From: "Mike Fisher" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Help, Isaiah Clive >To: "stefan clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz>, <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <002e01c7d67a$665e2ab0$6401a8c0@acer684c9a655d> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Hi Stefan > >If you go to West Midlands BMD on >http://www.bmsgh.org/wmbmd/births.html >you can search and find all the CLIVEs born in West Bromwich registration >district for that time period > >It contains Isaiah/Josiah brothers and sisters as in the 1871 census. > >Mike Fisher now in Droitwich >formerly of Wythall,Solihull Lodge & Billesley,Birmingham > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "stefan clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz> >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:20 AM >Subject: [WAR] Help, Isaiah Clive > > >> Hi List, I am wanting to get the birth Certificate for Isaiah CLIVE, but >> Having looked up the ancestry.co.UK bmd index I can not find him, >> >> The records I have on him are the 1881,1891,1901 Uk Census, his marriage >> Cert and death cert and a possible 1871 census with name being a Josiah , >> >> The census all put him being born in Staff West Bromwich , England with a >> Date range of 1864 to1866, I have searched Bmd index from 1862 to1868 but >> I >> Cannot find him, >> >> Census puts his mother as Mary Clive, no father in census's, marriage cert >> (1888) puts father as Isaiah Clive with words in brackets I think say Dec >> (deceased)? >> >> What reasons could there be for him not being on Bmd Index, A change of >> name >> >> Would be one? >> >> Also Does GRO do searches, what would the cost be roughly for a search if >> You do not know reference numbers, I have always ordered with the >> reference >> Numbers >> >> What other options could there be to find his birth? >> >> Cheers >> Stefan Clive >> Researching, CLIVE, BEVAN, TREW/TROW, DAVIES, WILLIAMS >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:19:09 +0100 >From: "Mike Fisher" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: [WAR] Help, Isaiah Clive >To: "stefan clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz>, <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <009a01c7d6b3$304448e0$6401a8c0@acer684c9a655d> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >Hi Clive > >It looks Mary Clive states that she is unmarried in the 1881 census > >Mike Fisher now in Droitwich >formerly of Wythall,Solihull Lodge & Billesley,Birmingham > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "stefan clive" <clivesp01@yahoo.co.nz> >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 1:20 AM >Subject: [WAR] Help, Isaiah Clive > > >> Hi List, I am wanting to get the birth Certificate for Isaiah CLIVE, but >> Having looked up the ancestry.co.UK bmd index I can not find him, >> >> The records I have on him are the 1881,1891,1901 Uk Census, his marriage >> Cert and death cert and a possible 1871 census with name being a Josiah , >> >> The census all put him being born in Staff West Bromwich , England with a >> Date range of 1864 to1866, I have searched Bmd index from 1862 to1868 but >> I >> Cannot find him, >> >> Census puts his mother as Mary Clive, no father in census's, marriage cert >> (1888) puts father as Isaiah Clive with words in brackets I think say Dec >> (deceased)? >> >> What reasons could there be for him not being on Bmd Index, A change of >> name >> >> Would be one? >> >> Also Does GRO do searches, what would the cost be roughly for a search if >> You do not know reference numbers, I have always ordered with the >> reference >> Numbers >> >> What other options could there be to find his birth? >> >> Cheers >> Stefan Clive >> Researching, CLIVE, BEVAN, TREW/TROW, DAVIES, WILLIAMS >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:16:25 +1200 >From: "goyen" <goyen@ihug.co.nz> >Subject: Re: [WAR] JACKSON,ONIONS,BROOKES >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000301c7d6dc$b7a8a320$44d4adcb@userafa46af38b> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hello Carole, > >Thanks for taking the trouble to look on the BMD index, there is another >entry there at the same time: > > > >John O Brookes Mothers maiden name - JACKSON > > Registered Jan-Mar 1914 Coventry 6d 1378 > > > >This is the one I have been working on although I have not found them on the >1901 census yet > > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 13:14:32 +1200 >From: "goyen" <goyen@ihug.co.nz> >Subject: Re: [WAR] JACKSON,ONIONS,BROOKES >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000601c7d6fd$fb5637b0$44d4adcb@userafa46af38b> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Hello > >I fell into the trap of thinking Harriet Jackson married Joseph Brookes 1910 >too, unfortunately it was to the other person of that entry, an Edward >McFadren > > > >Census entries; > >I do have a Harriet JACKSON aged 2 in 1881 (Parents Alfred and Ellen), they >appear also in 1891 but so far nothing in 1901 > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 03:36:34 +0200 >From: "Gareth" <everitt@xs4all.nl> >Subject: [WAR] identity ? >To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000901c7d701$0f734460$0100000a@D3Q5PK2J> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi list. >A question, if I move to a new area in 1860 and say my name is Joe Bloggs and this is my family ... and ... Do I have to prove it? what do I have to prove it? is it just generally accepted that I'm not a liar and that my name is Joe Bloggs , I may have some papers but I can't read or write so is that proof ? >Reason for the question is that I have a Thomas Archer TOWELL b 1809 in Bawdeswell Norfolk, in 1848 using full name m Rebecca BUTCHER in Coventry. In 1851 and on the wedding of step daughter Maria KEENE in 1860 he drops the Towell and is just Thomas ARCHER, but on the 1861 he drops the Archer as does Rebecca his wife so he is now Thomas Towell. 1871 don't know yet but on the 81 he's Thomas Towell again. Was it possible in those days just to switch identity at will ? >Cheers for now >Gareth > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 10:38:45 +0800 >From: "Eusebius1" <vhu54423@bigpond.net.au> >Subject: [WAR] HUDSON family of Coleshill 1758 - 1823. >To: "Warwick Board" <warwick@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <000601c7d709$bf28d430$0100000a@yourfdf3fa11e3> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hello List, > >If there are any researchers on the list with connections to the family of Samuel HUDSON and >Lydia Hodgetts please contact me. I am particularly interested in thier son Edward HUDSON >born 1766. > >Ray Hudson Perth, Western Australia. > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:22:48 +1200 >From: "Adrienne Richards" <adrienne.richards@gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [WAR] identity ? >To: Gareth <everitt@xs4all.nl> >Cc: WARWICK@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <42e294010708042122t7494cb3ayf41e110920e4f293@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Hi Gareth and fellow listers. In response to your question Gareth, I have >one of my husbands ancestors who used either his surname or his middle name. >Incidentally, for a few generations later it became a double barrell surname >- something quite unusual during those years. In this case he was initially >a Major - illigitimate son of Mary - but later papa must have realized he >had a pretty good son in this young man and he became a Cluett and later >Major-Cluett. In my experience it wasn't usual for "base born" children of >even children from very early de facto relationships to take the fathers >name. >Cheers >Adrienne > > >On 8/5/07, Gareth <everitt@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >> Hi list. >> A question, if I move to a new area in 1860 and say my name is Joe Bloggs >> and this is my family ... and ... Do I have to prove it? what do I have to >> prove it? is it just generally accepted that I'm not a liar and that my name >> is Joe Bloggs , I may have some papers but I can't read or write so is that >> proof ? >> Reason for the question is that I have a Thomas Archer TOWELL b 1809 in >> Bawdeswell Norfolk, in 1848 using full name m Rebecca BUTCHER in Coventry. >> In 1851 and on the wedding of step daughter Maria KEENE in 1860 he drops the >> Towell and is just Thomas ARCHER, but on the 1861 he drops the Archer as >> does Rebecca his wife so he is now Thomas Towell. 1871 don't know yet but on >> the 81 he's Thomas Towell again. Was it possible in those days just to >> switch identity at will ? >> Cheers for now >> Gareth >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 11 >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:54:56 +1200 >From: "Adrienne Richards" <adrienne.richards@gmail.com> >Subject: [WAR] Williams family, Stratford on Avon >To: warwick-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: > <42e294010708042154h282512aqcb327d0eacbc0b03@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Hi there. I have just found out that Williams are a part of my husbands >ancestry so off I go on another branch. This lady is Sarah Williams (born >between 1755 and 1762 in the Stratford on Avon area) first married Richard >Evetts in Holy Trinity SOA in 1782 and then as a widow to Richard Boulter >(from Loxley) at Holy Trinity SOA in 1801. I am presently trying to find her >family in the area. I would be pleased to hear from anyone working in this >area or has collected a big database on this family name. >Cheers Adrienne >Nelson, NZ >http://AdeInNelson.com/index.html <http://adeinnelson.com/index.html> > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the WARWICK list administrator, send an email to >WARWICK-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the WARWICK mailing list, send an email to WARWICK@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK- request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of WARWICK Digest, Vol 2, Issue 241 >*************************************** > __________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only £7.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/