This does show how careful you have to be with estimated dates. Owen Tudor was executed in 1461 Catherine de Valois died in childbirth in 1437. She was the daughter of Charles VI of France & widow of Henry V. [Her sister Isabella was the widow of Richard II.] Anthony Martin Devon England -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Levick <cheryllevick@btinternet.com> To: sappa@talktalk.net; Warwick-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 9.47am Subject: Re: [WAR] Tudor Lineage Hi, I have the Royal ancestors + descendants on my old family tree maker disc. The only thing is it doesn't go back any further than Owen Tudor & his wife Katherine/Catherine Valois. Dates given for Owen Tudor - WFT Est. 1377 - 1409 Dates given for (C)Katherine - WFT Est 1385 - 1409 Any Good???? Regards, Cheryl ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with 2GB of storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.

Hi Anthony, Yes, I agree with you. You do have to be careful with estimates. However, I don't think I was clear with the estimate I wrote. It was only his estimated birth. Same with his wife. Owen did die in 1461 (executed). And, Catherine died as you say in 1437. See below. 1. OWEN1 TUDOR was born WFT Est. 1377-1409, and died 1461. He married KATHERINE VALOIS (CATHERINE) Abt. 1429, daughter of VI CHARLES and ISABELLA BAVARIA. She was born WFT Est. 1385-1409, and died 1437 in Bermondsey Abbey, Southwark, London. Sorry I wasn't clear in the first place. Best Wishes, Cheryl ----- Original Message ----- From: anthonyvmartin@aol.com To: cheryllevick@btinternet.com ; Warwick-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Tudor Lineage This does show how careful you have to be with estimated dates. Owen Tudor was executed in 1461 Catherine de Valois died in childbirth in 1437. She was the daughter of Charles VI of France & widow of Henry V. [Her sister Isabella was the widow of Richard II.] Anthony Martin Devon England