Fantastic!! I enjoyed the Froggatt/Huggatt/Frogitt thread - there's a lesson in there that's encouraged me to 'ave another go at my 'brickwall' thank you.... Robert in Australia On 7/11/07, warwick-request@rootsweb.com <warwick-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frustrated (NORMADIANE@aol.com) > 2. Re: Frustrated (Mary Rogers) > 3. Re: Frustrated (Wendy Boland) > 4. Re: Frustrated (Colin Liddell) > 5. Re: Frustrated (Wendy Boland) > 6. Re: Frustrated (Bill Burgoyne) > 7. Re: Frustrated (Bill Burgoyne) > 8. Re: Frustrated (Charani) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:55:35 EDT > From: NORMADIANE@aol.com > Subject: [WAR] Frustrated > To: WARWICK@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d64.bf108be.33c56867@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Hi everyone > > I am new to this list and wondered if anyone could come up with any > suggestions for a dilemma. > > I have a John Froggatt on my tree, born in Birmingham in 1794. According to > the igi I can find 3 children for him and his wife namely William born 1834. > Elizabeth born 1833 and Edward born 1837. His wife is listed as Sarah, all > children baptised at St Martins. > > I cannot find the family on any census except 1871 when John and Sarah are > listed as living at 7 Engine Street, Birmingham. > I cannot find any marriage listed on the igi that looks likely nor can I > find the one child Edward born after Civil Registration on St Catherines Index. > > Can anyone please help. I am stuck > > Regards and thanks > Diane Clark > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:04:34 +1000 > From: Mary Rogers <genea@iprimus.com.au> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: NORMADIANE@aol.com, WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <46942CA2.4010101@iprimus.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi Diane, > > They are transcribed on Ancestry as Huggett on the 1841 census > Still at Engine St > > John 50, lab > Sarah 45 > An 12 > Catherine 10 > Elizabeth 8 > William 7 > Edward 3 > Zacariah 1 > > HO 107/ 1145/8 > > Kindest regards, > > Mary > > NORMADIANE@aol.com wrote: > > > > I have a John Froggatt on my tree, born in Birmingham in 1794. According to > > the igi I can find 3 children for him and his wife namely William born 1834. > > Elizabeth born 1833 and Edward born 1837. His wife is listed as Sarah, all > > children baptised at St Martins. > > > > I cannot find the family on any census except 1871 when John and Sarah are > > listed as living at 7 Engine Street, Birmingham. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:25:44 +1000 > From: "Wendy Boland" <wendy.boland@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: "Mary Rogers" <genea@iprimus.com.au>, <NORMADIANE@aol.com>, > <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <006901c7c35a$672e29a0$0200000a@Calvin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes and as FROGGETT on the Warwickshire Ancestors Version, which can be assessed for free on > www.hunimex.com/warwick > > There is a search engine provided for you - so not a lot of effort is required. > > Sometimes wonder why we bothered putting the 1841 and '91 online if no-one uses it anymore. > > > Dont mention the 1861 - I am still trying to convince myself that I am not wasting my precious time plus that of the 50 volunteers still transcribing the remaining 33 pieces. > > snarl --------- > > Wendy Boland > > Co-ordinator Warwickshire 1841 1861 census and FreeREG Transcription Teams > > > . > > They are transcribed on Ancestry as Huggett on the 1841 census > Still at Engine St > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:33:35 +1000 > From: "Colin Liddell" <caplid@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00b701c7c363$e2c1aa70$4001a8c0@house1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > No Wendy, it is not a waste of time, it will all be appreciated.{:-) > > Colin. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wendy Boland > To: Mary Rogers ; NORMADIANE@aol.com ; WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > > > Yes and as FROGGETT on the Warwickshire Ancestors Version, which can be assessed for free on > www.hunimex.com/warwick > > There is a search engine provided for you - so not a lot of effort is required. > > Sometimes wonder why we bothered putting the 1841 and '91 online if no-one uses it anymore. > > > Dont mention the 1861 - I am still trying to convince myself that I am not wasting my precious time plus that of the 50 volunteers still transcribing the remaining 33 pieces. > > snarl --------- > > Wendy Boland > > Co-ordinator Warwickshire 1841 1861 census and FreeREG Transcription Teams > > > . > > They are transcribed on Ancestry as Huggett on the 1841 census > Still at Engine St > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:28:06 +1000 > From: "Wendy Boland" <wendy.boland@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: "Colin Liddell" <caplid@optusnet.com.au>, <WARWICK-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01c7c373$e0d04770$0200000a@Calvin> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Please excuse my snarling - I can feel the frustration showing through again- perhaps it's time I took a break and did some gardening instead - anyone want to take over the Projects for a month or three ? > > Back to basics. > > NEWBIES please try www.hunimex.com/warwick > > Pickards Pink Pages for info on how to, where to, and what, in Warwickshire plus lots of census transcriptions > and more goodies for FREE- > > If you cannot find what you seek there or on GENUKI or by googling > then by all means ask for advice from the LIst- > It may be a last resort but it means we can call on the collective knowledge plus our varied resources to help. > > Okay I will go and bash a few weeds in the paddock and come back in a sweeter mood. (you hope) > Cheers > Madame Lash. > > > No Wendy, it is not a waste of time, it will all be appreciated.{:-) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:15:11 +0100 > From: "Bill Burgoyne" <bil.burgoyne@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: <NORMADIANE@aol.com>, <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002301c7c37a$755a3120$4101a8c0@bill1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > The family are transcribed as Frogit, living in Eugene St. on the 3 County > 1851 disk. > > Bill Burgoyne > > My website :- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~billburgoyne/ > All outgoing mail checked by Norton 2006 anti-virus > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NORMADIANE@aol.com> > To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:55 PM > Subject: [WAR] Frustrated > > > > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > I am new to this list and wondered if anyone could come up with any > > suggestions for a dilemma. > > > > I have a John Froggatt on my tree, born in Birmingham in 1794. According > > to > > the igi I can find 3 children for him and his wife namely William born > > 1834. > > Elizabeth born 1833 and Edward born 1837. His wife is listed as Sarah, > > all > > children baptised at St Martins. > > > > I cannot find the family on any census except 1871 when John and Sarah > > are > > listed as living at 7 Engine Street, Birmingham. > > I cannot find any marriage listed on the igi that looks likely nor can I > > find the one child Edward born after Civil Registration on St Catherines > > Index. > > > > Can anyone please help. I am stuck > > > > Regards and thanks > > Diane Clark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:33:18 +0100 > From: "Bill Burgoyne" <bil.burgoyne@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: "Bill Burgoyne" <bil.burgoyne@btinternet.com>, > <NORMADIANE@aol.com>, <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002a01c7c37c$fd3c7fb0$4101a8c0@bill1> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Sorry it is "FROGITT" > > > > The family are transcribed as Frogit, living in Eugene St. on the 3 County > > 1851 disk. > > Ancestry 1881 William is still living at 7 Engine St, surname FROGGETT. > > Bill > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 07:21:26 +0100 > From: Charani <familyhunter@family-hunter.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [WAR] Frustrated > To: warwick@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <469476E6.90507@family-hunter.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > NORMADIANE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone > > > > I am new to this list and wondered if anyone could come up with any > > suggestions for a dilemma. > > > > I have a John Froggatt on my tree, born in Birmingham in 1794. According to > > the igi I can find 3 children for him and his wife namely William born 1834. > > Elizabeth born 1833 and Edward born 1837. His wife is listed as Sarah, all > > children baptised at St Martins. > > > > I cannot find the family on any census except 1871 when John and Sarah are > > listed as living at 7 Engine Street, Birmingham. > > I cannot find any marriage listed on the igi that looks likely nor can I > > find the one child Edward born after Civil Registration on St Catherines Index. > > > > Can anyone please help. I am stuck > > First of all, don't worry about not being able to find everything you > want on the IGI. It's not complete by any means and isn't very > reliable either, esp if the entries you find are patron submissions > which can vary from complete accuracy to total fantasy and all points > in between! > > You have Edward born in 1837. If he was born before 1 July 1837, then > he won't appear in the GRO indices. Even if he was born afterwards > the parents may not have been aware of the necessity of registering > the child, perhaps thinking that baptism was registration enough. It > was also the registrar's job to find all the newborns. So, if he > didn't know about the child, he wouldn't have looked for the family in > order to register him. That said, have a look for Edward a couple of > years after 1837 although I suspect he probably arrived in the world > pre civil registration. > > If you have a look on www.familysearch.org you can find where your > nearest Family History Centre (FHC) is. You'll be able to hire the > film for the parish from them and be able to find the baptisms and > you'll know how accurate the information on the IGI is (or isnt). > You'll be able to find out if there are any more children as well. > > Parental ages and places of birth are fluid as well. > > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, SOM > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the WARWICK list administrator, send an email to > WARWICK-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the WARWICK mailing list, send an email to WARWICK@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of WARWICK Digest, Vol 2, Issue 217 > *************************************** >