Hi Patricia If James's father on the wedding cert was James a labourer then his baptism is on PPP at Stretton on Fosse to James and Elizabeth Gardner who married there in Oct 1813. James was christened 9/12/1827 at St Peter. If they are his parents then on the 41 he is aged 14 living with his mother and siblings in the registration district of Pailton south of the turnpike road between Coventry and Rugby roughly where Stretton on Fosse is probably between the 2 hamlets. Dosn't solve your problem but might give you a few other family members to follow up on who "may" have been Herberts parents HTH a bit Cheers for now Gareth