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    1. Re: [WAR] Packwood
    2. Gus Tysoe
    3. Hello Ellen, Packwood - as a separate Civil Parish - no longer exists, having been abolished in 1932, with parts being distributed between Solihull Urban District; Solihull Urban [Civil] Parish, and the remainder to Lapworth. [I don't know the date of the VCH volume, but it would seem to be more recent than that, as it describes it as being 'partly in Lapworth. Ecclesiastically it has different boundaries from the Civil Parish of the same name since [at least] 1895 - and it lost a fair chunk to Dorridge in 1967. So Maps are probably going to be your only source for locating Packwood Common. Unfortunately, the only maps I have are 'small scale' - the 1830s 1"; and the present-day 1:50,000 and 1:25,000 - and *none* of them name Packwood Common :-( Your record that gives the name is from 1847, so you really need to find Large Scale maps from as near to that date as possible - and the snag here is that about the earliest 'good ones' are the Ordnance Survey 6" and 1:2,500 [first series] whichdate from the 1880s, and *MAY* be 'too late' to show the Common if it was in a developing area such as Hockley Heath or Dorridge. Your very best bet would be the Tithe Plan which [probably] was made around 1840. As far as I know, this is held at Warwick Records Office - but there's a 'but'... *Many* Tithe Plans do not mark place names, giving numbers instead - I don't know what Packwood might have done - but the Tithe Apportionment of the Parish contains a [sort-of] key to the numbers, and identifies the places by their names, down to individual field level. The catch here is that the Apportionment is unlikely to be in numerical order, and needs to be read - although they have been indexed online at < http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/countyrecordoffice > and clicking on "Online Catalogues and Databases" on the left-hand sidebar. Searching for "Packwood Common" provides 21 'hits' with quite-widely-varying Plot Numbers between 386 and 464 - and *none* of the 'Occupiers' are there named WARNER. But there *should* be enough information on the Plan to narrow the search down to a comparatively small area. Finally - but no more than a FWIW - the present-day 1:25,000 does show a "Packwood Moor" at Grid Ref SP 169 735. But this could weel be no more than coincidence.... HTH Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" <[email protected]> Thank you very much Betty, I appreciate the kind offer, but I know where Packwood was located. I'm trying to find the area within Packwood that was called "Packwood Common".

    03/12/2010 08:11:57
    1. Re: [WAR] Packwood
    2. Betty Williamson
    3. Sorry I can't be of more help but it must still have existed fairly recently because my son used to go camping there with the scouts. Happy hunting, Betty. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:11:57 +0000 > Subject: Re: [WAR] Packwood > > Hello Ellen, > > Packwood - as a separate Civil Parish - no longer exists, having been > abolished in 1932, with parts being distributed between Solihull Urban > District; Solihull Urban [Civil] Parish, and the remainder to Lapworth. [I > don't know the date of the VCH volume, but it would seem to be more recent > than that, as it describes it as being 'partly in Lapworth. > > Ecclesiastically it has different boundaries from the Civil Parish of the > same name since [at least] 1895 - and it lost a fair chunk to Dorridge in > 1967. > > So Maps are probably going to be your only source for locating Packwood > Common. Unfortunately, the only maps I have are 'small scale' - the 1830s > 1"; and the present-day 1:50,000 and 1:25,000 - and *none* of them name > Packwood Common :-( > > Your record that gives the name is from 1847, so you really need to find > Large Scale maps from as near to that date as possible - and the snag here > is that about the earliest 'good ones' are the Ordnance Survey 6" and > 1:2,500 [first series] whichdate from the 1880s, and *MAY* be 'too late' to > show the Common if it was in a developing area such as Hockley Heath or > Dorridge. > > Your very best bet would be the Tithe Plan which [probably] was made around > 1840. As far as I know, this is held at Warwick Records Office - but there's > a 'but'... *Many* Tithe Plans do not mark place names, giving numbers > instead - I don't know what Packwood might have done - but the Tithe > Apportionment of the Parish contains a [sort-of] key to the numbers, and > identifies the places by their names, down to individual field level. The > catch here is that the Apportionment is unlikely to be in numerical order, > and needs to be read - although they have been indexed online at < > http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/countyrecordoffice > and clicking on "Online > Catalogues and Databases" on the left-hand sidebar. > > Searching for "Packwood Common" provides 21 'hits' with quite-widely-varying > Plot Numbers between 386 and 464 - and *none* of the 'Occupiers' are there > named WARNER. But there *should* be enough information on the Plan to narrow > the search down to a comparatively small area. > > > Finally - but no more than a FWIW - the present-day 1:25,000 does show a > "Packwood Moor" at Grid Ref SP 169 735. But this could weel be no more than > coincidence.... > > HTH > > Gus > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ellen" <[email protected]> > > > Thank you very much Betty, I appreciate the kind offer, but I know where > Packwood was located. I'm trying to find the area within Packwood that was > called "Packwood Common". > > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/12/2010 10:08:30