I would like to mention again the problem I am having in tracing details for this family history in case someone can just throw some light on it. I cannot find an elusive birth record for Louisa HEMMINGS so cannot obtain a birth certificate. In the 1851 and 1871 census it states she was born in Grandborough, in the 1861 census and in a birth certificate of a son born in New Zealand it says she was born in Leamington. She was an illegitimate child to Harriott who was at Birmingham in the 1841 census before Louisa was born (she was 9 in 1851). So she would need to be born between 7th Jun 1841 (date of census) and 16th Jan 1842 as she died 17th Jan 1929 here in New Zealand at the age of 87. She apparently told one of her daughters that her father was a gypsy, I presume there would be no way of verifying that. I also cannot trace her mother Harriott from the birth of Louisa on. She was christened at Grandborough in 1813, had an illegitimate son Richard in 1836 which I cannot find after that date and in 1841 was at Birmingham with no children. I cannot find her since that time. Regards Victor Ellen

Hello Victor, So was Harriet also illegitimate? I notice in the 1851 census that Louisa is described as the grand daughter of James & Martha FARMER and that in the 1841 census a William HEMMINGS was with James & Martha. Trying to trace the marriage of James & Martha, there is an extracted marriage on the IGI at Grandborough on 13 October 1817 of a James FARMER and Martha HEMINGS, so either Martha was a widow when she married James or was a single mother. I think the only way you are going to solve your problem is to consult the parish registers of Grandborough and see what you can glean from them. Louisa's birth is very early on in the registration period and therefore may well not have been registered so you are much better off looking for her baptism and as her grandmother seems to be Grandborough born and bred as well as her mother being born in the parish, there is a good chance the parish registers may give you some clues. Her mother may well have married after Louisa's birth which could be why you are having difficulty finding her after 1841. BMSGH have produced the Grandborough PRs on fiche which you can purchase from their website. The other avenue to explore is to see if the LDS have microfilmed the PRS and if so hire them to view in situ at your nearest LDS Family History Centre - their Libray History Catalogue search facility does not appear to be working at the moment so I can't check to see if they have been filmed for you. Good luck Janet >I would like to mention again the problem I am having in tracing details >for > this family history in case someone can just throw some light on it. > I cannot find an elusive birth record for Louisa HEMMINGS so cannot obtain > a > birth certificate. In the 1851 and 1871 census it states she was born in > Grandborough, in the 1861 census and in a birth certificate of a son born > in > New Zealand it says she was born in Leamington. She was an illegitimate > child to Harriott who was at Birmingham in the 1841 census before Louisa > was > born (she was 9 in 1851). So she would need to be born between 7th Jun > 1841 > (date of census) and 16th Jan 1842 as she died 17th Jan 1929 here in New > Zealand at the age of 87. She apparently told one of her daughters that > her > father was a gypsy, I presume there would be no way of verifying that. > I also cannot trace her mother Harriott from the birth of Louisa on. She > was > christened at Grandborough in 1813, had an illegitimate son Richard in > 1836 > which I cannot find after that date and in 1841 was at Birmingham with no > children. I cannot find her since that time.

Just a thought! Beware .... Don't count on her age as given on her death certificate as being correct. The person concerned cannot give her correct age and even her age as given by her in her lifetime could be incorrect. My gran always took 2 years off her age so we did not know her exact age when she died as all her siblings were dead and we couldn't find her birth certificate. Anne Paling SHEFFIELD, U.K. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:39:49 +1200 > Subject: [WAR] HEMMINGS brick wall > > I would like to mention again the problem I am having in tracing details for > this family history in case someone can just throw some light on it. > I cannot find an elusive birth record for Louisa HEMMINGS so cannot obtain a > birth certificate. In the 1851 and 1871 census it states she was born in > Grandborough, in the 1861 census and in a birth certificate of a son born in > New Zealand it says she was born in Leamington. She was an illegitimate > child to Harriott who was at Birmingham in the 1841 census before Louisa was > born (she was 9 in 1851). So she would need to be born between 7th Jun 1841 > (date of census) and 16th Jan 1842 as she died 17th Jan 1929 here in New > Zealand at the age of 87. She apparently told one of her daughters that her > father was a gypsy, I presume there would be no way of verifying that. > I also cannot trace her mother Harriott from the birth of Louisa on. She was > christened at Grandborough in 1813, had an illegitimate son Richard in 1836 > which I cannot find after that date and in 1841 was at Birmingham with no > children. I cannot find her since that time. > Regards > Victor Ellen > > List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/ Do you have a story that started on Hotmail? Tell us now