Hi List,, I sent this reply to Dot but not to the list,so here are some additional bits that may help someone help Dot Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: gllykh To: Dorothy Smith Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Moss sisters b 1891 to 1895 Hi Dot, From the 1901 census there is a Jessie Moss aged 4 living with her Hannon grandparents,they were living at 72 Foundry Rd,Birmingham The father of the family is John Hannon born in Aberdeen,Scotland and his wife and all their children were born in Birmingham according to the census return.I did not find another Jessie Moss on the listing. I did find an entry on the 1911 census for Mabel Edith Moss aged 18 working as a domestic servant,living at 72 Radford Rd.,Leamington,may or may be not "yours" There was an Ethel Moss working as a domestic servant living at 2 mill St,Leamington on the 1911 census. I did find an entry for an Arthur J Murcott registered Oct quarter 1921 in the Warwick district.,mothers maiden name is Moss --Best wishes Hope some of this is new stuff. Gilly --- Original Message ----- From: Dorothy Smith To: gllykh Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Moss sisters b 1891 to 1895 This does help and I knew Frederick, my grandfather and some of the stories he told my Dad and Uncles are unbelieveable!!!! The reason he was living with his grandfather in 1881 was that his mother received an inheritance and then the trouble began. Before that they were living in from what I have been told, in a beautiful home and he had a nanny, pony and cart and bunnies in his room. Then Ellen and Kilita (this is the correct spelling and his real name was William after his grandftather) started to drink. they lost everything and when Gramps was 10 they were living in Leamington when his brother Stanley was born and the rest of the kids. Then (and I have the newspaper clipping) Kilita drown Ellen in the river in Leamington and tried to tell the court that she was alcholic and probably fell in and drown herself. But my grandfather said that was not true. they had been fighting he she ran to a neighbors and he followed and somehow got her to the river. He got off scott free, but did end up in the loony bin!! I do know that baby Jessie was living in London from a letter from Stanley to my grandfather, saying he saw her there but didn't approach her as being only abt 5 years old when her mother died she probably didn't know about her parents or siblings. She is mainly one that we would like to find just in case she does know. I think the rest may have all died, but the girls did marry and I am sure there has to be some of them around. We did find that Ethel married in 1919 to William R. Murcott he was b 1886 in Leamington Spa to William S. Murcott b 1857 in Bubbington and Mary Ann b 1865 in Kenilworth and his brothers were Thomas H b 1888 and James b 1890 in Cubbington. this I got today from the 1891 census Ellen m a Corbett and Mabel m a Fields. this I got from their sister Lillian b 1888 who came to Canton, Ma. USA after brother Frederick joined the Merchant Navy and served on the Proserpine. I do have more copies of letters to Grampie but not much else on the girls Henry's parents were William Moss and Dorinda Chatfield, don't know where she came from but she is buried 4 Aug 1833 age 25 St. Dunston, Cheam, England b 1801? they were married in 1825. I have all of their children and Henry and Kitty Kilby Moss Henry and Kitty's dau was a professionl musician and singer but don't think that lasted too long as she married Robert Ratcliff and had 3 dua's then she divorced him and marrie a Charles Hubbard. I do have the Moss family back1745 in East Ham and practically all of them were farriers and Henry was a veternarian surgeon. Only my ggrandfather Kilitia was the slouch and tried not to work so Grampie said. LOL Ok a bit more and I am done the Ellen 11, Ethel 10, Mabel 8 and Lillian 13, in 1901 were in a Workhouse census at 41 Champion Terrace Nothing about baby Jessie who was then about 5 years old. Someone emailed me and said she was living with her grandparents the Homan's but we have no Homan's in either side of the families. Sorry to be tearing your eyes out but wanted to let you know what I had and from who. I do have a gal who is a cousin some how through the Moss side but has tried to find Jessie. She loves in England somewhere. I so appreciate what you have sent me. I tried going into a site for a later census but they wanted me to pay and being 80 yrs old that is impossible. thank you so much, if only I could find some of the living kids. Dot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: gllykh <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 4:33:23 PM Subject: Re: [WAR] Moss sisters b 1891 to 1895 Hi Dot, From the 1891 census for the UK Living at 6 Holly St east,Leamington All named Moss ??Kolita aged 43 blacksmith b East Ham Ellen E aged 35 b Poplar,London Frederick L aged 15 stationers assistant b Canning Town Stanley L aged 5 b Leamington Lilian A aged 3 Ellen K aged 1 Mabel W under 1 month On the 1881 Frederick is living the household of his grandfather Henry Moss aged 53 in East Ham. Hope this is what you are looking for. Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:37 AM Subject: [WAR] Moss sisters b 1891 to 1895 Ellen Kate m A corbett Ethel W m William R. Murcott Mabel m a Fields And I don't know about as we called her, baby Jessie b 1895 Their brother was Stanley Lawrence b abt 1885 There was an older sister Lillian A b 1888 that followed her older brother Frederick Lawrence Moss to Massachusetts, USA I knew aunt Lil and her family. Frederick was my grandfather. He was b in Canning Town and the rest were born Leamington. Any info on the above would be gratefully appreciated. Dot in NH List archives are at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message